Time to change title : Narendra Modi will be the next PM of India....India won..
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Posted on: 06-04-14 11:34:00
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Originally posted by DELHI INDIAN
You know what they say about imitation being a form of flattery :-). And the twist you added can be easily disproven. If you read the post below with an open mind, you'll see what I mean. If you don't, that's fine too, but you'll help prove my point above.
I have no personal agenda against Kejriwal. I do recognize and acknowledge the positives he brings to the election equation. He has been able to galvanize the anti-corruption movement and plant the seed of alternative thinking in the minds of the population, which is a big accomplishment. Anna Hazare started it as everybody knows, but Kejriwal has been able to carry it forward and politicize it, which is necessary to get action on it. He has obviously said the right things to get people motivated against this important issue.
But when he had the opportunity to translate those words into something tangible and concrete, he failed miserably in my opinion. If he took the Delhi CM post thinking that the culture that has been embedded in the mindsets and the system for decades can be fixed overnight, he is either incredibly naïve or stupid. And stupid he clearly is not. I also don't think he's that naïve. Which then leads me to the third conclusion that he figured out quickly the incredible complexity of fixing corruption given that the whole system is decayed and also realized quickly that he would not be able to deliver on the platform he ran on. This was the perfect test of his leadership. A leader in this situation would need to mix pragmatism, diplomacy and patience with hard-headed idealism to make progress on this issue. Instead, he just asked for overnight changes and when they did not occur, resigned. The saying is not that when the going gets tough, the tough resign.
The other issue I have with him is the recognition that corruption is only one dimension to running a country like India. There's economic growth, foreign policy, defense etc. etc. which are equally important and Kejriwal has absolutely no experience in any of those. His hard headed idealism make him a really terrible candidate for any of those and I'm frankly scared of what would happened on the above fronts if someone like Kejriwal came to power at the top post in the country. Experimenting with someone so green on a leadership post with enormous responsibility is not something I would do.
So does this mean Kejriwal should retire and go away? Absolutely not. You can read in my other post that if he forms the opposition, that is a great situation. He (and his supporters) need to recognize that he still has a lot of learn if he really wants any concrete results. I used the word "grooming" in that post, that is what he needs. Learning leadership skills to balance idealism with reality to get results. Not making excuses and pointing fingers. I'm happy to change my view about AAP and Kejriwal if I see progress on this front.
Compare and contrast above approach with the almost militant hatred of Modi that many of you guys have and the fact that you will completely ignore well documented facts below.
1. Modi's leadership has played a big part in Gujarat's progress recently. Most Gujaratis know this and this is why they have put him in the top post in Gujarat thrice.
2. The riots were a really tragic episode, however there are a lot of angles to how they started and progressed that you conveniently ignore. Also, your selective memory helps you ignore the fact that there have been several other riots in India (take the Mumbai ones for example) but those don't matter. You also choose to ignore the fact that they happened over a decade ago and since then, things have been mostly peaceful in Gujarat. Lastly you ignore that many muslims in Gujarat and outside have moved on.
3. You make baseless allegations of Modi being in the pocket of rich people (Ambanis being easy targets because they're Gujaratis :-)
4. Then there is this condescending broad brush painting of all Gujaratis as being community motivated and voting Modi into power for that reason. Modi recently made a ground-breaking statement around "toilets before temples". How many fundamentalists OR otherwise do you know who have the balls to say this?
Ignoring well documented facts and having one-sided thinking to suit your purpose is a classic fanatic/brainwashed approach. You want to project Modi and all Gujaratis in one way with only one agenda. You don't want to research, nor do you want to entertain any conflicting viewpoints. Hence my Taliban comparison, this approach is part of their playbook.
Anyways, none of us know how the elections will turn out and if Modi will even be the PM. If he does assume the post, this will only be the start of his challenge - how he performs against the backdrop of conflicts within his own party AND vested/communal interests outside his party remains to be seen. His track record in the past on overcoming similar challenges is rock solid though, which is why he has my support.
Very nicely written. This is how we should debate or discuss.
I also do not mind Mr.Modi being PM and was supporting BJP full on before introduction of AAP.
You are right that AK left too early but I would say that it too short of period to decide someone capability ( 49 days). We have been giving opportunities to our traditional leaders from 65 years and result is just in front of you. I would not say that he failed in 49 days. He has done few things in such a short tenure which was never every discussed in our country in past. I also understand at AK and AAP do not have an experience of economic growth, foreign policy, defense etc. etc but we need to first fix our basic problems. None of the government in past has discussed corruption, education , safety and health as seriously as AAP. If I say I need government who bring more outsourcing business,jobs, FDI, malls etc etc I am selfish as it will benefit majorly to metro's. How about poor and those living in villages and smaller cities? We need to first work on our basics. I can afford to send my son to a good private school but how about those who cannot. Is good education not a right for poor? None of the government has done anything on improvement of condition of government schools? Is BJP able to provide good education system in Gujarat? AK is strongly in favor of improving education system. I only go to private hospitals but how about poor or those living in villages. Is health not a right for poor in India?None of the government has done anything on improvement of condition of government hospitals? Is BJP able to provide good healthcare in Gujrat? AK is strongly in favor of improving healthcare system.
This is first time in history when safety of women were discussed and worked upon. Forget about poor, even middle class try to avoid going to police. For me, growth is not about making roads, flyovers, airports, opening big factories by giving land to corporates. I would rather prefer corruption free, safe and secure India with good health care and education.
We left India for all above reasons. Whatever we get in Canada like free education, free healthcare etc we also have in India in form of government schools and government hospitals but we don't use those services.
Once our basis problems and requirements are fixed, no one can stop India growing.
Real childish and Aapian argument. Kajri did not have to resign and run away from responsibility after 49 days. He did this Nautanki because he wants to be the PM. Further, he did know that if he continued, he would be exposed. He did not have enough budget to continue with subsidy programs. He did not have money for thousands of new Government schools that he promised. His only aim was to do Nautanki and fool people – a typical Naxalite strategy. But all these have been discussed before and is also on Web. It is that AAPians have blinkers and cannot see beyond a certain path. The Naxalite Utopian world does not exist and whenever they attempted to create one, they have failed with disastrous consequences for humanity. Russia and East Europe are the example. Naxalite darling China has not only abandoned the Utopian ideas but reversed the course 180 degree. It is just that in every age and time, it is easy to find 10% stupid people who would buy the stale ideas. Aapian are that 10% category and hence have been called AAPtards and rightly so.
Again, after BL bashed the Anti-Gujarat tirade, you try to sneak in Gujarat bashing. That shows your prejudice and sick mindset. Gujarat healthcare is far better than your stinking Delhi which lives off the taxes paid by all other states of India. The Civil Hospital in Ahmedbad is one of the best. And while Gujarat may not have people speaking good English, (which is changing fast) they are far more intelligent and street smart. The proof is in pudding. They have kept AAP miles away. Stop spreading venom against Gujarati. Wait till May 16. Your ass is going to be kicked, and kicked real hard barring last minute surprises or miracle or wholesale Muslim support to Kajri. Get lost and cry.
May God make Modi PM, give him all the strength and support to make India a developed country and prove his detractors wrong.
Without taking action against black and illegally stashed money, but just by piling more taxes and tariffs on oil, gas and power, the poor will only become poorer. This can never be substitute for generating revenue. The coat and tie pundits may come on TV and say otherwise because they are being paid to say so. This was the reason for the doom of Congress and UPA which the media will hide as per the corporates instructions.
As of now, it appears what Modi will do, will be to apply Amrutanjan to the chest where it requires a bye-pass surgery to the heart.
Will be happiest if Modi proves us wrong.
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Let Modi become PM. But why should anybody deride AK. His 28 seats were never going to be enough to rule Delhi. He needed minimum 36 out of 70, which he did not get. Even out of the 28, there were people like Benny who became dissident when not given ministerial post in this alpayu government. But for AK still it was a century on debut even though his team might have lost.
May be AK should merge his party with the CPM.
India ruled proxy either by USA through BJP or by China through communists is a real possibility.
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I am not sure if anyone has taken into consideration the constant complaints of the EVMs? There have been proofs that these machines can be easily tempered with. Many of them malfunctioned on the first day of elections and a few fake machines were intercepted in Bihar (I think)...
All these incidences together have the power to change the entire result in either direction.
Also, what if many voters use the NOTA (non of the above) option?
Interesting times ahead.
Hiren
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Originally posted by hchheda
I am not sure if anyone has taken into consideration the constant complaints of the EVMs? There have been proofs that these machines can be easily tempered with. Many of them malfunctioned on the first day of elections and a few fake machines were intercepted in Bihar (I think)...
All these incidences together have the power to change the entire result in either direction.
Hiren
I have always cast my doubt on these machines. No other major country in the world uses these machines and have in fact spoken against their use in elections(some states in US do use them and it is a raging controversy). The 2004 Vajpayee led BJP lost in a very suspicious manner.
Subramanian Swamy filed a case in Supreme court against the use of these machines. The chips are made in Japan and the Japanese courts have comprehensively rejected the use of these machines in that country for their unreliability and for their potential for mischief. These machines can be manipulated at the chip level.
The Supreme court of India, arriving at a compromise, then ordered to have these machines print a receipt which gets dropped into a ballot box, and the polling booth can be up for a manual recount if any objections are raised.
I doubt the usefulness of this move as vast majority of voters are semi-literate and will not have a clue as to what is going on or what was supposed to have been printed on the receipt.
Looks like the globalists are pissed with the Congies for now and have fancied Modi. They might allow him to win the elections via EVM . If not, then we will soon know who their current favorites are when the results come in.
Swamy comes off as a classic front man for the globalists and is doing their bidding. Either that or he is incredibly stupid and will allow himself to be manipulated by the globalists via his Harvard buddies.
His son-in-law is engaged in cutting edge research at MIT concerning implantable rfid chips, the pet project of these manipulators in west.
India does not have any integrity left her in her democratic set up. This country has been sold. Just pray, hope for the best and keep your head down.
I know this sounds way too conspiratorial and crazy for most people but then it is just my opinion. One has to keep an open mind and not take everything on its face value.
To my knowledge NOTA doesn't give any -ve vote. Suppose all the votes except 3nos. are NOTA, then on counting one candidate gets 2 votes out of 3 , he will be the winner. The voter may pride himself that he is different from others.
BJP seem to have the support of big industrialists. Unlikely, EVMs will be tampered.
With each passing day it is becoming increasing clear that Modi and BJP are winning. May be they will end up with more than 260. People have started discussing about BJP views in FDI retail and other issues as if they are already in power.
Being the successful CM of Gujarat thrice, he is expected to hit the ground running.
Among the various post-election analysis, it will be interesting to know why Congress and UPA, were getting so much despised by the people and what caused their downfall. May be the skulduggery they did with the fuel pricing and the consequential price rise had a major role.
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An interesting article on past Gujarat elections with full of data.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/comment/analysis/modi-wave-is-just-a-figment-of-imagination/article1-1205403.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.hindustantimes.com/comment/analysis/modi-wave-is-just-a-figment-of-imagination/article1-1205403.aspx</a>
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