Canada's unemployment rate falls to 8.0 per cent..........


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Moving to Canada   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-10-10 02:18:32

Dear Nightmare.....While your insight into the canadian economy and the role of the immigrant in this is interesting ,would request you not to indulge in racism by writing about Islamic immigrants. They, as you, have a right to migrate to wherever they wish & live life the way they want to provided it is law abiding. By generalising you have added a tone of distaste to what would have been a good read
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-10-10 09:29:57

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My view from personal experience

Come up with a way to beat China/India.




It is too late now. Years back, when outsourcing was started and when companies were moving their business to India/China, that was the time to take serious actions.

BTW, India has more than 400 million people in the age range of 25-40. So young blood, large no. of consumers and beside that cost of production are the main factors helping India to progress at fast pace. Canada is facing aging problem in the population and so it have to have heavy imports of immigrants.











web2000   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-10-10 09:34:46

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Well, for North America and Europe the party is over. However, lingering hangover is not and people have yet to wake up from the slumber. First real test would be Nov 2 election in USA. If Obama and his bleeding heart socialists lose, that would be the first sign that tide is turning.

There is a very nice book by Mark Steyn “America Alone”. It is worth investing 4 hours of time as it explains nicely the predicament facing the developed countries. Canada and for that matter Europe have extremely myopic and extremely selfish policies disguised as most liberal policies. The book by Steyn explains that in detail. However, I do not recommend “true socialists” to read the book as they are likely to faint by the time they are through half the book.

Canadians and Europeans have , in their quest for leisure and pleasure , have sacrificed the future generations by inviting immigrants and making them work very hard, exploiting them and ensuring their pensions and life is enjoyable. These selfish people do not care about the disaster that awaits their kids and grand kids. Natural human instinct of human being is to provide and protect the family. EUROPEANS, IN THEIR QUEST FOR PLEASURE, have replaced the family by the Socialist Government which is supposed to look after them in old age for luxury life style, medical care and other needs. Instead of providing for pensions from the savings, they devised a plan under which the current working population pays for medical care and pensions of current retirees. However, due to flawed assumptions and ever acquiescing Actuary, the fraud continued for many years. Now chicken have come to roost. The immigrants would also soon start retiring; say in next decade, and then the only way out would be cut the medicare and pension benefits. Such a move would hit ALL the future retirees including “whites”. However, past and current retirees do not care because by that time they would probably be dead. Thus extreme selfishness has resulted in the current mess. Immigrants are the sacrificial lambs. They work their adult life like Dogs with poor wages and when they retire, they would be asked to sacrifice their pensions. The book explains that the result of myopic vision and selfish attitude would have severe consequences for future generations as these b******s invited too many Islamists immigrants. In next three decades, these Islamists would assume power in Europe and probably in Canada. That would change the quality of life of the future generations. If some one wants to know life under Islam, one should visit Saudi or Pakistan.

However, the regret still remains that we immigrants are still victims.



I think pension should be from personal savings and not from the pockets of tax payers.










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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-10-10 11:16:22

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Dear Nightmare.....While your insight into the canadian economy and the role of the immigrant in this is interesting ,would request you not to indulge in racism by writing about Islamic immigrants.

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http://www2.macleans.ca/category/opinion/mark-steyn-opinion/

http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/08/13/we-can%E2%80%99t-talk-about-immigration/

Nightmare was referring to Mark Steyn, who had a human right case dropped against him, when he wrote an article about increasing influence of Islam in west. You can Google that.

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Originally posted by meghal

My view from personal experience

Come up with a way to beat China/India.

It is too late now. Years back, when outsourcing was started and when companies were moving their business to India/China, that was the time to take serious actions.



We cannot obviously beat India/China due to huge difference in manufacturing costs. Canadian dollar is obviously expensive compared to Rupee/Yuan, the minimum wage is $10, and India/China have a long way to go when it comes to labour rights. All the rights/facilities provided to Canadian/America/European labour obviously adds up the manufacturing cost.

Either decrease the reliance on foreign manufacturing, develop into R&D to come up with a better and more efficient way to manufacture products than human labour, focus more on being technology providers. As they say in Gujarati, there is no point in folding your hands and complaining.



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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-10-10 11:28:36

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Originally posted by meghal

My view from personal experience

Come up with a way to beat China/India.




It is too late now.



I am afraid there's never too late for anything when it comes to an efficient running of the economy. All it takes is a visionary leader alongwith the favourable market forces/conditions. Most importantly, who could predict the future? When they couldn't predict the demise of Soviet Union, the ongoing recession the world over, and the baap of them all 'The Great Depression', do you think it could ever be late for anything good, especially for any country's economy? There involves a various factors.

You never know when the tide will turn. As they say, When good times didn't last, bad will go away as well. There's a cycle of everything, and I am sure employment will pick up - just a matter of time.

All's not doomed in Canada :).



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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-10-10 11:32:16

The job report numbers do count only those who lost their jobs and are actively looking for jobs.

It does not include those who are not searching for jobs.



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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-10-10 11:41:48

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The job report numbers do count only those who lost their jobs and are actively looking for jobs.

It does not include those who are not searching for jobs.



Rightly so, when one is unemployed and not looking for job then it simply implies that he/she is not interested to applying now. It makes an absolute sense to not include this very population.



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