My post landing experience


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My post landing experience of Canada
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Friends,
This is my first message on my post landing experience in Toronto last month. The last 4 weeks have been full of surprises and I’d like to share some of my 2 cents from a different perspective.

The first big surprise was at the first immigration counter when the immigration officer said to me “Welcome to Canada, your new home..eh”. I cannot describe the feeling, every country that I have been to in the past I was asked at the immigration “When do you plan to leave?” The next immigration officer turned out to be a lady of indian origin, she took my picture for PR and did not even bother to check my landing funds, even when I insisted on showing ( I spent $10 in getting the drafts made and no one even looked at it )Then I was given a welcome package with vital info for new immigrants. This booklet holds info on the wealth of resources in local areas in Canada. Every resource listed in this booklet should be explored, to my surprise I found many new immigrants giving up too soon on the resources mentioned. The whole process from stepping out of aircraft to clearing customs took not more than 40 minutes.
Outside the airport I was greeted by one of the coldest days of the season with -31C and winds. I was happy I landed on the coldest day because every other days seemed like spring even it was -5 outside.

The next day after applying for my SIN card I attended a seminar in a nearby new comer information center (NIC). There were about 20-25 other new immigrants at this seminar and it gave a wealth of info for a new comer ranging from local info on GTA to how to prepare and look for jobs. These NIC’s also have one on one counselors to help every new comer target the jobs in his own field. Like NICs, there are many such centers and organizations all across canada and what surprised me that how much the Govt is doing to help the new immigrants settle in and get into the mainstream. In the 4 other countries where I have lived and worked before no such help was available, I had to struggle and find out things by myself.
We formed a group of 8-10 new immigrants when we met at NIC and it proved to be a great support structure, to be able to share your experiences and views with people in similar situations is a great help in itself. I took every opportunity to talk to every desi or immigrant I came across at bus stops at trains etc, getting different perspectives was a great learning experience in itself.

I’d like to differ with those who present a very negative image and say that only labor jobs are given to desis. I found a few major trends in immigrants which I feel is also contributing to the miseries of new immigrants. I may be wrong but the general trends which I was was quite disturbing
1. Many desis try to land a job as soon as possible within the first 2 weeks. $1=Rs30 factor and also the fear of spending from the settlement funds drives this trend but I’d suggest if one has to do labor jobs, do it after 3-4 months when one has tried every other avenue to get a break in their own field. Also many come with families and kids which will make things even worse in the beginning. Unless one is very well funded bringing families should be a big NO NO.
2. Many desis try to in the comfort zone of GTA. GTA is an industrial area Esp mississauga and west and most employment agencies there will give only labor and factory jobs, even if you hold an MBBS. I met very well qualified people doing labor jobs and were feeling happy that they are earning more than what they did in india. I was stupefied by one guy(B.E, MBA) who said he is doing day and night shifts at a factory just to accumulate 900 hours so that he can get unemployment insurance from the govt.
I don’t blame the govt. of canada for his miseries, if that is what his goals are then that is what he will get. Many of us don’t aim high enough.
We all have to struggle. the choice of where to struggle is ours. Whether to struggle really hard to re-qualify( if needed) and get into our own field or to keep struggling in menial jobs. The choice is really ours.

3. Not many desis make use of the Co-op and other employment programs offered by the govt. The down side of these programs is that one does not get paid for 5-6 months while one gets to work in firms in ones own field. 85% of those who participate in these programs get gainfully employed. Also,not many desis join french courses. I am not sure of the details, but I am told Govt of Quebec gives $500 a month to everyone who enrolls for a french learning class. A family of 4 grown ups could make $2000 a month for just attending french classes everyday for 4 hrs a day!! And one could then do other jobs as well to support. What do we gain by learning french? A whole new world of govt jobs will open to us besides the money and knowledge of another language. Think about it. It will take time but all good things take time.

4. Lastly and most importantly all new desis must work on communication and presentation before coming. That is the key for everything in Canada. I met a senior college prof from India with a PhD, he was complaining about lack of jobs. There are indians in senior positions in Canadian universities with less qualifications than him but what was the difference. The difference I felt was that this person despite his qualification could not even pronounce his name right “Sassi Kumar” for Shashi Kumar in a bihari/UP accent. No offence to Bihari’s please, I am a bihari too. To top it off he had strong sented “chameli ka tel” and drooping 70’s moustache … I wonder how could he clear any interview.

There are plenty of opportunities in Canada. To get to those we have to work hard to get local licencures and qualifications and canadianize ourselves with a positive outlook. And jobs and opportunities will follow in with time. Otherwise we will just working hard on menial jobs with no hopes for future.
There are very few places in the world which offer so many opportunities to new immigrants to settle down, we need find out about them to make full use of it to succeed.

Gook luck to all.



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amitbakhshi   
Member since: Dec 03
Posts: 43
Location: New Delhi, India

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-02-04 14:01:27

It has been a really nice experience shared by you which I am sure will boost the confidence of all the potential immigrants for settling down smoothly. We wish you all the very best for your future. Ofcourse, this gives us a strong feeling that if we plan & co-ordinate the things well in advance and keep consistent effort we will surely succeed.

:cheers:
Warm regards

Amit


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Manan Gupta   
Member since: Jan 04
Posts: 110
Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-02-04 16:56:15

It is nice to note the experience of Mr India. Well it is a known fact that each individual has his own expectations about Canada. Though there is no RED CARPET welcome for the landed immigrants, but still there are enough sources to make them at ease. It is only the matter how one locates and make use of them.

At the same time there is no end to the miseries being faced by new Desis right from landing onwards.

I feel Canadaian Desi should have a dedicated column highlighting bitter as well as sweet experiences of Desis.

This will be a better way to compare the situation.

Otherwise all experiences have to be explored by the individual visiting the website. At times one happens to read only negative comments which make him more scary about Canada.

Best of luck ! :)


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jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-02-04 17:44:13

When people go through tough times they always feel the need to vent out their frustrations. That is why you see a lot of negative posts. Misery loves company :D . This is fine

The problem is that the people with positive experiences and who have achieved some level of progress(according to their own standards) in their careers/lives rarely see the need to do a search on the web for desi sites to buoy their social/career needs. I myself chanced on this site only when I was looking for people from the community for my projects. I stay probably due to the same and to fill a few altruistic needs. If you do not have a need...you will not see a reason to be involved and share your opinions/experiences.

There is an articles section...there aresome positive posts therein too.


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Manjeet   
Member since: Aug 03
Posts: 283
Location: Toronto ON Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-02-04 08:38:41

I am glad to hear mishter that you got such a nice experience. I am also glad after reading your thread that after all every thing is not gloomy out there in canada. Its gives a relief at least to some extent.


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Mishtar India   
Member since: Nov 03
Posts: 668
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-02-04 23:37:22

Thanks for the encouraging respose to all to all those who responded.

While we all should keep high spirits, I'd also like to caution that there are many people who keep passing thru difficult times for a long time, and one cannot seem to find and negatives with them or their resumes. One such example is a US educated friend of mine well experienced but still unable to get into his own feild. Having said that, it doesnt mean it will happen to anyone of us. I truly feel that the key to success is preservarance and to have the ability to keep oneself in positive thinking mode despite the adversities that we face here.

I have been coming across many old timers who keep saying Canada is not the place to be and some even suggesting that going back to india is better option. For such people I feel their negative thinking style is the biggest barrier between them and their goals. No one should expect settling in Canada an easy process but one one can surely enjoy the transition of rising up from a scratch in a new country.
Where we will be 5-10-20 years later in Canada will totally depend on how we think at this initial stage and what goals we set for ourselves and how go on to achieve those goals. And the best part is that Govt of Canada has many programs to provide some level of help for all of us , no matter what goals we set for ourselves. Ranging from getting student loans to unemployment insurance. It just depends on us what we aim for, to get insurance money or getting new skill and degrees.

We are first generation of immigrants, we are destined to struggle here. But this struggle can also be made into an enjoyable process by cherishing every new progress that we make from ground up.

Success is a journey, not a destination.
:cheers:





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Manan Gupta   
Member since: Jan 04
Posts: 110
Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-02-04 02:38:06

Absolutely true and relevant.

I wish all new immigrants read this thread.


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HARJIT6244   
Member since: Feb 04
Posts: 11
Location: BRAMPTON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-02-04 15:23:06


YES WHAT MISHTAR SAYS IS TRUE. YOU HAVE ONLY BEEN HEARING FROM INDIAN PEOPLE, WHAT ABOUT OTHER RACES AND OTHER COUNTRIES. I AM FROM SINGAPORE AND I MET CHINESE, FILIPINOS AND INDIANS, AND BELEIVE ME ITS VERY TOUGH TO GET A JOB IN YOUR FIELD HERE. I AM IN THE BRAMPTON LIBRARAY NOW AND THIS INDIAN GUY BESIDE ME WAS LAY OFF AFTER 2 YEARS IN THE IT FIELD, AND ITS BACK TO SQUARE ONE. THAT IS LABOUR JOBS.

WHU CAN'T THIS COUNTRY BE LIKE MALAYSIA, SINGAPORE OR OTHER ASIAN COUNTRIES. THEY PUT YOU IN YOUR FIELD OF WORK AND NOT OUT OF YOUR FILED. THIS IS MY SECOND TIME HERE AFTER COMING HERE FOR 5 MONTHS LAST YEAR WITHOUT ANY JOB IN IT ALL. ITS NOT ONLY DESI'S, EVEN PEOPLE LIKE ME, GRADUATED IN UK AND SPEAKING GOOD ENGLISH ARE FINDING IT TOUGH HERE.

YES, THERE ARE 3 OUT OF 10 WHO WILL LAND JOBS HERE BUT WHAT DO THE OTHER 7 DO, CLEAN CARPERTS, DRIVE TAXI'S OR DELIVER PIZZAS. THEY SAY THEY WANT CANADIAN EXPERINECE, I PUT IN 1 YEAR CANADAIN EXPERIENCE FROM SOMEONE'S BLESSINGS, AND GUESS WHAT 0 CALLS FROM THE PAST 6 MONTHS HERE. WE CAN HOPE BUT THERE IS A LIMIT TO EVERYTHING. US IS STILL BETTER AND THOSE FROM UK WHO HAVE BEEN HERE, ARE REGRETTING AND HAVE WENT BACK. I AM NOT TRYING TO BE NEGATIVE, BUT THESE ARE TRUE EXPERIENCES AND I HAVE TOLD MY FRIENDS FROM SINGAPORE AND ELSEWHERE NEVER COME HERE UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO TO THE "GALLOWS"

GOOD LUCK TO THOSE POSITIVE SPEAKERS. JAI HIN




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