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Ranin   
Member since: Aug 04
Posts: 281
Location: Guelph, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-08-07 19:21:54

Quote:
Originally posted by web2000
I can say NO if I receive the credit card offer. But why the person who wants to misuse my information will say NO? His interest is to misuse my information. Identity theft means that you are not aware of that your information is being used by someone else.



If you apply online, CC companies will send you (or let’s say the person who applied the card in your name) a letter to send them support documents, usually your pay stub, passport photocopy, driving license copy etc. Unless, you have lost them and have not taken care to cancel them, any other person cannot apply. The person who applies AS YOU should have all the info. and documents supporting it. That’s why:
1. Don’t loose your personal info.
2. If you have, then take proper steps to ensure that those documents are canceled before someone uses them.
3. BUY A SHREDDER.



Big Vee   
Member since: Jan 05
Posts: 456
Location: Canada-Glorious and Free

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-08-07 21:16:19

Quote:
Originally posted by zorro

But I really want to know the solution when I want to live inside this society, use the banks, use my credit card, apply for mortgage and file my taxes.

And BTW, shredders are no great help these days. There was a story on NBC recently, where the identity thief put together all the shredded paper with the tape, and were able to apply for credit card, apply for mortgage. He was a criminal, so the victim also got an arrest warrant on his name.

Guys, instead of sticking to the old, outdated solutions, try to hear out someone who actually wants to convey something. web2000, please mention your solution here for everyone's benefit.



Listen, there is no safe in the world that is not breakable. Likewise, you information will NEVER EVER be 100% safe. And that is a fact. So does that mean you stop living in the real world? Likewise if web2000 had a solution - he would have presented it by now. And by the way, if web2000 can think up a solution, there are a thousand nefarious folks who have thought up of ways to beat even that solution.

The best way to protect you house is a locked front door. Simple and old-fashioned. And yes NBC can find a million criminals who have broken into houses or picked locks etc. So what?? It still remains the No. 1 way to protect your home. And the same applies to your personal information. The shredder is you No. 1 way to protect yourself.

BV



Pramod Chopra   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 1284
Location: Pickering, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-08-07 10:48:42

I came across these very good links on this subject and I am posting short details from one of the links below for every body's benefit.

http://cmcweb.ca/epic/site/cmc-cmc.nsf/vwapj/checklist_e.pdf/$file/checklist_e.pdf

http://www.rcmp.ca/scams/student_guide_e.htm



Identity Theft:
A CHECKLIST
With your identity, thieves can open new bank accounts, order cell phones, take out a mortgage on your property and buy cars or furniture.




Signs of ID Theft
• Purchases not made by you appear on your monthly bills.
• Bills arrive on accounts you don’t own.
• Collection agency calls about unknown debt.
• Credit card/bank statements don’t arrive.
• Your credit report shows mystery debts.


What to Do
• Call financial institutions and local police.
• Put a fraud alert on your credit report by contacting
• Equifax: 1-800-465-7166 and
• Trans Union: 1-877-525-3823
• (Quebec residents: 1-877-713-3393).
• To replace ID cards like health, driver’s licence, SIN call 1 800 O-Canada
• Contact Canada Post if your mail is missing.
• Keep records of steps taken to clear your name and re-establish your credit.
• Help stop fraud. Contact PhoneBusters at 1-888-495-8501 or phonebusters.com
• For more information on Identity Theft visit http://www.ConsumerInformation.ca" rel="nofollow">LINK

Identity Theft:
A CHECKLIST
Identity (ID) theft is serious. It occurs when someone steals your personal information to commit a crime. While you can’t entirely control whether you will become a victim there are ways to minimize the risk.

Guard Your Personal Information
• Never give personal information by phone, Internet or mail unless you initiate the contact.
• Be careful about sharing personal information and don’t give out more than you need to.
• Shield your PIN, and never lend cards.
• Report missing credit or debit cards.
• Carry only the ID you need.
• Put other ID documents (SIN, birth certificate, passport) in a safe place.
• Shred documents with personal information.
• SIN is only for employment and tax reporting.
• Ask about the security of your information at work, with businesses and charities.
• Guard your Computer and its Information
• Select a complex password of letters, numbers and symbols.
• Install firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware and security software-update often.
• Don’t try, don’t buy and don’t reply to spam or emails that ask for banking information.
• For online transactions, look for https://, a closed lock or an unbroken key icon.
• When disposing of hard drives, use overwrite software or destroy the drive.

IDENTITY THEFT:
Recognize it.
Report it.
Stop it.



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Pramod Chopra
Senior Mortgage Consultant
Mortgage Alliance Company of Canada



pratickm   
Member since: Feb 04
Posts: 2831
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-08-07 11:46:01

SIN number (and its counterpart - the SSN in the US) are about the worst abused piece of confidential information.

Everyone wants it - from the taxman (for which it was originally intended), to your credit card company, to your dentist and even your barber :)

Most insurance companies use the SIN (or the SSN) as your member certificate number.
Mine does, too.
As a result, I have my SIN number etched prominently on my health card, which I carry everywhere obviously.

It was the same way even in the US where the dentist used the SSN as the Patient#

It's easy for the Govt. (HRDC in Canada and SSA in US) to say that don't use your SIN/SSN for anything other than tax purposes, but the world doesn't work that way.

Govt. says that you have the right to refuse to give out your SIN/SSN to anyone other than tax authorities, but they also have the right to refuse you service without that information.

For example, my Dr. wouldn't set up an appt. without the SSN.

I actually called SSA to discuss this and the conversation went as follows -

Me -- "The dr. office wants my SS Number. Why should they need it?"
SSA -- "They have no need for it. You have the right to refuse. "
Me -- "But they are saying they won't provide me services without it."
[Silence]
Me -- "So what should I do now?"
SSA -- "...it's up to you. We can't control their decision to provide services or not.".

Go figure.


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chekram_04   
Member since: Nov 06
Posts: 427
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-08-07 12:33:22

Thank you very much Pramod for providing the valuable information on this forum. I have come across a problem with remembering PIN and password as we have to remember a lot many of them in Canada and we have to frequently change it. Any remedy or technique to remember them



web2000   
Member since: May 06
Posts: 849
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-08-07 13:02:15

I just give u guys a couple of days to think about a possible solution. I already had a discussion going on some other forums. Then I will compile my ideas and discuss if there is any flaw I overlooked.

Thanks for your patience.



pratickm   
Member since: Feb 04
Posts: 2831
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-08-07 18:45:13

Quote:
Originally posted by web2000
I just give u guys a couple of days to think about a possible solution.

Is this a test?
Quote:
I already had a discussion going on some other forums. Then I will compile my ideas and discuss if there is any flaw I overlooked.
Thanks for your patience.

Is your proposed solution at the individual level i.e. what each person can do on his/her own?
Or at the macro level i.e. what can the Govt. do, what can banks do, etc.


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"Mah deah, there is much more money to be made in the destruction of civilization than in building it up."

-- Rhett Butler in "Gone with the Wind"



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