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cmanyam   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-08-10 07:25:00

Hey 4z4z......


There you go... at least he got interview....

next time better luck....

cmanyam


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Kalpna   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-08-10 09:02:35

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Originally posted by febpreet

I might be wrong, but I don't think they really consider immigrants for these jobs, EOE(equal opportunity) notwithstanding. In most of these places, I have only seen the visible minority who are Canadian born.

However, don't lose heart and keep applying. I am in the same boat. My wife doesn't even get called to the entry level clerical, admin, or customer serv. City/Prov. level jobs, leave aside those professional ones. But, as I said keep applying. Perseverance is the key here, and see what they are asking so that you are well prepared in advance. Don't lose heart.


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Hi febpreet,
Your assumption is not correct, I would say; keep on applying, your resume will be shortlisted. When I had join, I was PR card holder. For admin position; I don't have much idea but spoke to different admins working in my ministry, they started thru agency and got permanant. So try Ajilon, Procomm etc.

Thanks


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cmanyam   
Member since: Aug 04
Posts: 295
Location: TORONTO

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-08-10 14:16:50

Kalpna

you mean to say Ministry also takes Temp's from Agency's... ?

cmanyam


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JaiHo   
Member since: Feb 09
Posts: 84
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-08-10 15:06:45

I agree with Kalpna here.
Yes, most hirings are done by converting Temporary to Permanent.
For IT - it is the same what happens most of the time but sometimes it is also a Permanent hiring, as well.
But, for Clerical/Admin/Receptionist/etc jobs - it is how it works (there may be rare exceptions though but very few).

It is also not easy and most likely the resume will go to the trash-can and the person won't be called. And, even called - will not get the job. There are lots of possibilities here.

Now let me ask a question here - I am sorry, if I offend anyone here but it is not intended. Sometimes heathly criticisms are good too.

How come the Chinese community get into Public Service in a lot more numbers, whereas Indians don't ? We have a lot to learn from them. Look at the public service jobs in BC & Ontario.

Some of it is because we don't or almost have no fellow-feelings (I don't want to go beyond that).
Also, do Indians really want to work for the Public Sector ? We are mostly short-sighted and only want to plan for the immediate future. If we are happy in the current job - we don't want to plan long-term. Maybe it is good - depends on the situation.
Also, we are 'Not' persistent. We give up easily.

What I wrote above is from my personal experience trying to convince Indians to work for Public Services. I may be wrong too and hopefully is.

Best Wishes


Quote:
Originally posted by Kalpna

Quote:
Originally posted by febpreet

I might be wrong, but I don't think they really consider immigrants for these jobs, EOE(equal opportunity) notwithstanding. In most of these places, I have only seen the visible minority who are Canadian born.

However, don't lose heart and keep applying. I am in the same boat. My wife doesn't even get called to the entry level clerical, admin, or customer serv. City/Prov. level jobs, leave aside those professional ones. But, as I said keep applying. Perseverance is the key here, and see what they are asking so that you are well prepared in advance. Don't lose heart.


_________________________________________________

Hi febpreet,
Your assumption is not correct, I would say; keep on applying, your resume will be shortlisted. When I had join, I was PR card holder. For admin position; I don't have much idea but spoke to different admins working in my ministry, they started thru agency and got permanant. So try Ajilon, Procomm etc.

Thanks


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Kalpna   
Member since: Feb 06
Posts: 66
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-08-10 15:35:52

Quote:

I agree with Kalpna here.
Yes, most hirings are done by converting Temporary to Permanent.
For IT - it is the same what happens most of the time but sometimes it is also a Permanent hiring, as well.
But, for Clerical/Admin/Receptionist/etc jobs - it is how it works (there may be rare exceptions though but very few).

It is also not easy and most likely the resume will go to the trash-can and the person won't be called. And, even called - will not get the job. There are lots of possibilities here.

Now let me ask a question here - I am sorry, if I offend anyone here but it is not intended. Sometimes heathly criticisms are good too.

How come the Chinese community get into Public Service in a lot more numbers, whereas Indians don't ? We have a lot to learn from them. Look at the public service jobs in BC & Ontario.

Some of it is because we don't or almost have no fellow-feelings (I don't want to go beyond that).
Also, do Indians really want to work for the Public Sector ? We are mostly short-sighted and only want to plan for the immediate future. If we are happy in the current job - we don't want to plan long-term. Maybe it is good - depends on the situation.
Also, we are 'Not' persistent. We give up easily.

What I wrote above is from my personal experience trying to convince Indians to work for Public Services. I may be wrong too and hopefully is.

Best Wishes



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I found, more than 50% of the contractor in my Ministry are atleast Indians hired by Indian Project Managers means our community is helping to hire desis, irrespective of Hindu or Sikh:), just kidding. But majority of Full timers are Chinese or.. We definitely can guide Indians to atleast shortlisted and after that I think process is very fair. As Regards to long-term planning, I find its very hard for an Indian to go to higher position as compare to Gora or Chinese.

Thanks


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febpreet   
Member since: Jan 07
Posts: 3252
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-08-10 15:38:35

Jai Ho, I agree with you word to word. I, for one really want to join the Public services and making much needed efforts for that. As I said earlier, perseverance is the key while applying to these jobs - kabhi to number aayega.

You're also correct that we Indians have no fellow-feelings (even, I don't want to go beyond that to open a pandora box. Each of us know what does it mean).

In a nutshell, couldn't agree more with you.



cmanyam   
Member since: Aug 04
Posts: 295
Location: TORONTO

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-08-10 15:41:10

It simply wont work for Indian skin.... ( no fellow feelings)..


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