What should be done to the Indian team (Not the Players) ?
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Now that we have lost this match and most probably out of the world cup. This was unfortunately worse than our experience in the previous world cup. I understand many of us feel quite down even promised their family members not to watch cricket again as we'd done several times.
But you know this game is in our blood, we can't really get rid of it unless a complete freeze. We could neither stop swinging our arms in the air to bowl / bat nor hesitate to join tennis ball cricket at any stage of our age. So let us just bring this subject up and discuss.
In today's match, the pitch was not very favorable to bowlers but still our boys tried it and contained the SL (forget about the Slog overs, its always hit or miss scenario). But the point is we did well in bowling. Dravid's decision to pick fielding isn't a very bad idea considering the past history of our encounters with Sri Lanka (he is not that dumb ass, else he wouldn't have maintained his batting average or his tempo), but he forgot to pick the heart beat of his team players. Harbajan was not really bowling to pick the wickets but to contain the runs and secure his ***. Why ?
Fielding is something that we never care, Eh Sher ka kaam nahin hein kind of thinking. Not to discuss really much about this area ? In what way Sri Lankan's are physically superior than the Indians. Not able to figure out really. So why we lack in this ?
Batting, A very tough subject to touch. Ganguly has reasonably bounced back. In last world cup, even the umpires were capable of bowling a short ball to Ganguly's face and pick his wicket with a catch. He seem to have fixed that problem. Even Azhar was losing his wicket his in a specific ball to Chris Cairs of NZ and Cairns made use of this weakness for atleast 4-5 times to blow the bails.
Uthappa needs some more time. Other than time and the same god damn encouragement he wouldn't need anything. I'll count on Dhoni (but Dhoni forgot how Muthaiah faces his new batsmen with his fist 2-3 balls) because Dhoni is not there to defend and screw but to attack. As far Tendulkar, well he is a genius, no doubt about it but I've got a feeling his age is not supporting him, his reflexes are in consistent deterioration but still a real smart bowler (above average).
I've got a feeling, the real culprit is Yuvraj Singh who single handedly spoiled the game. I was able to read Dravid's emotion after that.
To sum up, I strongly feel the team needs the following.
1. Strong emphasis on behavior among the players in dressing room, net practise and finally the game. I see that they are much worried about others, senior players etc., as long as this scene continues, victory is gonna be a far cry.
2. Initial attack. Batting attack in the initial over is essential to shatter the confidence of opponent bowling attack (Shrikkanth and earlier Sachin used to do that). Australia does that by letting their player their own style of batting no matter they lose the initial wickets. eg., We lost our 2003 world cup in the first over bowled by Zaheer khan for the same reason. It was difficult to bring the morale back.
3. Instill a fighting spirit till the last player, every player till the last batsman has to play to his full effort. There are several matches won with 8th wicket partnership.
4. The team has to know that, it is more a game of strategy than physical effort. Several team do a thorough preparation against the opponents before hitting the pitch.
5. Physical fitness. Most players do not seem to have good fitness. They are worse than SL even Pakistan.
Unfortunately, India never had a good captain. Any body dispute with that ? any one. Do not point to Kapil. He is a slogger, aggressive but again not a good captain. Is there any way the team could train some one to be a captain. God damn Grame smith became Captain at the age of 20 to lead Kallis et al.
Any thoughts? Any overhauling ideas ?
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Now that we have lost this match and most probably out of the world cup. This was unfortunately worse than our experience in the previous world cup. I understand many of us feel quite down even promised their family members not to watch cricket again as we'd done several times.
I don’t really feel Down, if you consider the way they played. I don’t know, but somehow I did not really get the feeling that the Team wanted to WIN.
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But you know this game is in our blood, we can't really get rid of it unless a complete freeze. We could neither stop swinging our arms in the air to bowl / bat nor hesitate to join tennis ball cricket at any stage of our age. So let us just bring this subject up and discuss.
I know what you mean, I swing my arms in air a lot. I just love to play this game (I don’t enjoy watching as much though).
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In today's match, the pitch was not very favorable to bowlers but still our boys tried it and contained the SL (forget about the Slog overs, its always hit or miss scenario).
You said it man. There was nothing in the pitch for bowlers. But still all seamers kept coming – even after some close calls. It was huge effort on their part. Yes, Harbhajan was containing. I had a feeling that the Team would miss Powar. And how badly they did. He is classical man.
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Batting, A very tough subject to touch.
I, again, don’t think Uthappa can be blamed here. He had a clear instruction to go after opening bowlers. I must say, He looked Good. It was a blinder that Vaas pulled off. Tendulkar is never your crisis man. He always fails in crunch matches (if you leave out two matches Vs Australia in Sharjah).
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I've got a feeling, the real culprit is Yuvraj Singh who single handedly spoiled the game. I was able to read Dravid's emotion after that.
Ya … Dravid knew he lost the match with that wicket. Along with Yuvraj – I’ll say Sehwag & Ganguly are eually responsible. I am saying these three names – just because three were SET.
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To sum up, I strongly feel the team needs the following.
They need Three “D”s … Decision, Dedication and Discipline. Ever since arrival of Dravid & Chappel – they were thinking too much. They literally killed themselves. They definitely over did. Nobody was playing naturally. Everybody were busy doing calculations & thinking of “Correct Methods”.
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Unfortunately, India never had a good captain. Any body dispute with that ? any one. Do not point to Kapil. He is a slogger, aggressive but again not a good captain
I totally Agree. As long as I remember, there could have been three good captains – Ravi Shastri, Ajay Jadeja & probably Laxman as well. Ravi Shastri can still be Coach. If not Dravid (or Sachin just because of his stature) then I’ll vote for Kaif (I know he needs to be in Team first – that will not be challenge for him now
). Along with a good Reader, Team needs strong, good Motivator.I’ll visit this Post again sometime later. But for now … I’ll enjoy my SLEEP.
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3. Instill a fighting spirit till the last player, every player till the last batsman has to play to his full effort. There are several matches won with 8th wicket partnership.
Any thoughts? Any overhauling ideas ?
Fighting spirit cannot be instilled. You are born with it. It is in the genes. THe BCCI should conduct pyschological profiling which can identify fighters like Kapil Dev. I still remember his fightback against Zimbabwe and listening to the match on radio. India came back from 17 for 5 to win the match. The ninth wicket partnership was a record 126.
In the final analysis it is not talent or brute strength or stamina which will win matches but your atitude during adversity which will enable you to compete with the best. Australians win because they are tough physically and mentally and they do not know the meaning of failure.
Today cricket ( or for that matter any other sport) is about mental toughness rather than talent or physical strength. And the Indian team is worse than Bermuda in that department. Witness the fightback by Hemp in the Bermuda vs INdia game. I would rather have one Kapil or Hemp in my team rather than 10 Sehwags and Tandulkars.
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Today cricket ( or for that matter any other sport) is about mental toughness rather than talent or physical strength. And the Indian team is worse than Bermuda in that department. Witness the fightback by Hemp in the Bermuda vs INdia game. I would rather have one Kapil or Hemp in my team rather than 10 Sehwags and Tandulkars.
I think you are hitting the core issue (at least the one I saw as the core issue), SOCIETY. If you have different view, go on publish it.
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Posted on: 25-03-07 14:11:41
The issue is much more deep-rooted than just the team and the players. It is the whole cricketing scenario.
One way out is to make the whole thing a lot more professional. Perhaps make BCCI or a new governing body at the helm of affairs a corporate entity and make everything PERFORMANCE based.
Trinity
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The issue is much more deep-rooted than just the team and the players. It is the whole cricketing scenario.
One way out is to make the whole thing a lot more professional. Perhaps make BCCI or a new governing body at the helm of affairs a corporate entity and make everything PERFORMANCE based.
Trinity
On the other hand, I believe there can be more than 1 recognised clubs in every country - just like the european championship in soccer, let the matches be between individual clubs, we can have more than 1 teams, there will be more competition, more venues for talented / gifted cricketers at all levels and we can have more than 1 chance of winning a 'cup' with the possibility or 1, 2 or 'n' number of clubs from same country competing - finally everything will be based on talent and qualification instead of clout and politics. Most importantly, the money which is presently accumulated in one account (BCCI) to be distributed among more smaller and deserving centers - talent and sound management will prevail...
Just my 2 cents ...
Hiren
Nice thing. Even now BCCI is not run by Govt and does not have anything to do with the state as such. So do representing India.
Some deep pockets should consider running a parallel team (with dedicated effort) and think further about it. We'll get to watch some good games at last.
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On the other hand, I believe there can be more than 1 recognised clubs in every country - just like the european championship in soccer, let the matches be between individual clubs, we can have more than 1 teams, there will be more competition, more venues for talented / gifted cricketers at all levels and we can have more than 1 chance of winning a 'cup' with the possibility or 1, 2 or 'n' number of clubs from same country competing - finally everything will be based on talent and qualification instead of clout and politics. Most importantly, the money which is presently accumulated in one account (BCCI) to be distributed among more smaller and deserving centers - talent and sound management will prevail...
Just my 2 cents ...
Hiren
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The cowards never started,
The weak died on the way,
Only the strong arrived.
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