Posted on: 12-11-05 13:16:16
If canada develops communities where their voice is not heard.. or there is institutionalized racism passing as system.. it can also happen becoz majority white canadians start to feel their voice is not being heard with all liberal , multi-cultural cacoophony.. Riots are like societies throwing tantrums like your kid in the supermarket.. Riots will happen anytime system fails to resolve things, issues or give outlet to people's feelings.. in the absence of opressive heavy-handed govt. (which is normally absent in democracies hence less riots..)
Now there are religious riots that we've see all across world between Islam and it's neighboring communities .. (Islam-Hindu in India, Islam-Christian in Nigeria, Indonesia, etc) Islam -Buddhism (Thailand) etc.. but that's just a very aggressive religious dogma colliding with needs of co-habitation in modern world.. but what is happening in France is by and large not that..
In case of Canada.. I think once Muslim population reaches >10%.. which is way off as of now.. we will see religious tensions and maybe even riots.. but not immigrants rioting.. economy here is too integrated.. Immigrant communities are not out of mainstream.. their voice is being heard and by and large it's not systemic racism ... at least not in jobs, education and everywhere on the street like we now know existed in france.. Only thing we have to worry abt is.. how to assimilate massive muslim population without them turning our systems into sharia..
Vanishing posts. Some of my posts have disappeared.
Anyway I was saying that it will happen when we say it wont / cant happen.
I.e. denial of existing problems will mean that they will always be their in the background waiting to explode at the right (or wrong) time.
I read in the paper today that shortly after the LA riots they was a mini riot by the protesters on Young street.
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Posts disappeared because server was being moved as Garvo Gujurati posted.
Talking about the religious tensions between Muslims and other communities - I suppose the question is why Muslims feel alienated in all these regions?
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Posts disappeared because server was being moved as Garvo Gujurati posted.
Talking about the religious tensions between Muslims and other communities - I suppose the question is why Muslims feel alienated in all these regions?
Aaah! No wonder I can't see my post anymore.
Chalo, opinion from person with Spanish sounding name.From the Star. Link hai
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1131922209377&call_pageid=968332189003&col=968350116895&DPL=IvsNDS%2f7ChAX&tacodalogin=yes
Time to change our attitudes
Let's embrace our new citizens with open arms and make sure they have equal opportunities
Nov. 14, 2005. 01:00 AM
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Shaking France awake
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Editorial, Nov. 11.
What is happening these days in France should make us think of the origin of these \"riots,\" as the media insist on calling them. Inequity, discrimination and lack of opportunities affect immigrants, whether they emigrated out of desire or necessity. People who often had no option but to leave behind their possessions and to start a new life in a completely different culture, learning a new language and finding their way in a new society often find that they are not welcome in their new homes.
One can't help thinking of the similarities between the French situation and the hurdles that immigrants to Canada are forced to endure.
We pride ourselves on our multicultural society, but are we really welcoming these newcomers?
I have been in Canada for four years. I came here as a refugee and I am grateful for many things. I saved my life by moving to Canada, but I left my dignity at the border and I have not seen it since. Regardless of one's reasons for immigrating to Canada, whether that person comes as a refugee or as a landed immigrant, most immigrants will have to face the same situations once they arrive here.
First, there is \"cultural shock.\" Learning the \"Canadian way\" of doing things can be quite painful and it explains why many immigrants decide to stay within a specific neigbourhood like Chinatown, little Italy or the Danforth; instinct makes them look for protection.
Then there is the language barrier. Having an accent in other parts of the world can work in your favour and can often be seen as \"charming.\" In Canada, it is the other way around, where having an accent can close all doors. If someone has an accent that person is not seen as being on par with Canadians.
Let's not forget the most problematic of all the issues — finding a job. Doctors, accountants, engineers, architects and any professionals quickly realize their foreign experience and qualifications are worthless in Canada and they have to start from scratch. Experienced, foreign-trained professionals are serving hamburgers in restaurants because Canadian employers dismiss them as candidates for positions based solely upon their \"lack of Canadian experience.\"
On top of the previous problems, there is the issue of the educational system in Canada. There are no undergraduate or postgraduate evening programs, they all are daytime programs and, for the most part, very expensive. Canadian employers dismiss foreign experience but there's no way to earn a living while also acquiring Canadian educational credentials.
Canada is a popular destination for immigrants dreaming of opportunities. They come here full of hope, only to be disappointed time after time by the discrimination and restrictions heaped upon them as they attempt to realize their dreams.
Going back to the problems in France, are the Canadian government and private organizations waiting for newcomers to Canada to say \"enough\" and start burning cars in the streets? Of course, no one wants things like this to happen anywhere. Hopefully, the world, and especially the so called \"developed\" countries, will learn a good lesson from what is happening in France. It's time to change our attitudes toward new Canadians. Let's embrace our new citizens with open arms and equal opportunities.
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Fernando Duque, Toronto
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hinglish zindabad
Star ekdum sach bola.
It will be going to happen if this problem persists. Not today or tomorrow but down the road.
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Well i think it has more to do with frustration, inequality that people experience rather than they being qualified or not.
Remember Mandal commission when getting implemented in India all qualified people got into riots in India because at one stage the people loose their patience and tolerance power.
