I still feel it entirely depands upon each person's academics, presentation skills, communication, and the prevailing job market in their respective field. Some immigrants succeed in a shorter span but others struggle to make ends meet. Although attitude and the above factors play a major role in finding immigrants jobs, it's not everything. I agree with TK that majority of Canadian companies are still not comfortable in employing an immigrant vis-a-vis a born Canadian.
As far as I have seen in my 4 years in Canada, majority of immigrants don't break in due to the narrow mindset of employers. Agree, there are some who find good jobs within one month of landing(very few - hardly noticeable), but I agree with TK that for majority of immigrants it's still a narrow road of hardships when it comes to finding job in their own respective fields.
This is an irony of Canadian immigration. There's no co-ordination between Government's immigration policies and what the industry wants in terms of quality of their workforce. As a result of it, we have Docs, Engg., and other highly educated immigrants (Yes, it includes the ones in IT as well) that struggle to find jobs even after 1 year of landing.
Please accept the universal truth where it belongs. Denial illudes.
Very good to read your posts. As always, I feel much safer living and working in Canada than India.
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I read a lot about descrimination etc on this forum and thought I should share my practical experience here. Hope this helps people to look things in a different perspective.
Last year, I was offered a senior manager position in engineering field for a very well known comapy. The VP, Director, HR who interviewed me were not indians(GORAs if you want to be more specific though I don't like to use this word). I competed among all kinds of people i can imagine in this world.
I worked there for a short period. The reason the oil price went very, the projects I was working on were all cancelled mid way. I was let go, but I was paid the highest compensation(I confirmed this as the company downsized to 40% of work force). The company even tried to place me in different divisions in US etc but there was problems everywhere.
Last month, I had an interview with another well known company. Same story, The VP, director, HR etc who interviewed me were not indians. Again, I competed with all kinds of people. I received the job offer yesterday for a senior manager position with a salary and benefit more than what i was expecting. I will be joining for work next week. In the interview, they also told me this position will progress into the director position in a couple of years.
I don't say there is no discrimination here at all but I also faced discrimination in India as well. In fact, I find it was more over there for me than here. For me, I find it more comfortable to work with other races. This is just my personal openion.
As some of you mentioned, it is attitude coupled with your intelligence and skill set, and more important your committment to work carries you through. I strongly believe in this.
If this is of any importance to anyone, I regularly go for lunch, dinner etc with my colleagues, they invite me also. Again, I don't have to say they are not all of them indians.
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The cowards never started,
The weak died on the way,
Only the strong arrived.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yK1i9cLAMM
I would say networking really helps in getting you a hidden job. Stay connected to positive and like minded people. It is essential in this country. As I said, do networking. It really helps in achieving your goal in this country especially in this economy whereby companies are cutting jobs and hours. Good Wishes!!
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Charlesjain
Come on guys! let's face it... this is not the great world we see in Bollywood or Hollywood. There is injustice, discrimination, prejudice, and racism everywhere in the world.
I must say this - I mean no offense to those who form part of the \"scheduled caste or scheduled tribe\" Back home in India, we have millions suffer, simply because they can not be part of the this elite class. There are millions who have the best marks, but wont get hired because someone from the elite class can will get the job , even though this person just scrapped through with 40 % marks. Then we have these not so privileged ones who get stepped on, because someone from a reserved category gets a promotion because of his caste. We have reservations based on religion, but nothing has been done to encourage women (especially in rural India) to keep up with the development in the country...
When we were in India, what did we do to fight this discrimination? What did we do to raise our voice? Did we form a forum to voice our dissent. The big answer is a resounding \"NO\"!!
Why is it always convenient to travel 6000 miles to Canada, and yell bloody discrimination? Why don't we come together as ONE community, to help each other, set up businesses together, and prosper together? Why do we always gripe, find fault with the system, and cry hoarse about the weaknesses here?
The answer lies in our culture - we see ourselves fragmented on lines of caste, community & religion. We do NOT trust each other. We are jealous of each others success, and all we can do is use this forum to rave and rant about the \"racism, discrimination, and injustice\".
As much as I respect the freedom of speech, this attitude of ours will NOT get us desis anywhere!
I challenge us Desi's to come together for a business venture, a common idea, and shared prosperity. Let me see how many can take up the gauntlet, instead of just ranting about what they have gone through in this country.
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In my ex-office, I have regularly seen the owner giving overtime to Canadian born and educated people where as VM's (Visible minorities) have been denied the same. Also my owner always likes to hire CBEP (canadian born and educated people) for the same low salary but he ends up having to hire VM's.
What most of my friends have told me in the past 6 1/2 years :
hi friends,
welcome to canada.
Like us you are also new immigrant but we landed 2 months back. one month we enjoyed being newcomer and completing formalities like SIN,PR,Bank account and waiting for medical which we will get after 3 months.
We did have stress level like you all after 20-25 days, but we kept positive attitude and kept on applying and now after 40 days, we started getting telephonic interviews.We had mentally prepared ourself to struggle initially
till we get one year canadian experience.We are ready to wait till we get job in our field with our vast experience.Now also, we are continously applying. There is no hidden job or any such thing, this is democratic country and everything is open. only thing you have to do is fo to company's site and apply online whihc is time consuming and lengthy procedure.
Don't worry, it takes 3 months to evaluate and analyse the cv and application in datajobbank and it is lengthy procedure for company to select right candidate out of so many applicants. so what you can do best, is have patience and if you don't have patience then go for security guard job temprorily.
all the best. you will get right job very soon.
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Hello Fellow Desis:
We are Indian family who have landed in Toronto about 13 days back. We are based in Mississauga (on Hurontario Street) and are actively searching for a suitable job opportunity.
We have been actively applying to all related job positions which appear online and on various job-related newspapers. However, we are yet to receive a call from any employer. So far there is no success and have not recieved even a single reply.
Please can you refer us to any suitable employer. We understand that most of the jobs are hidden and thus we are attempting your assistance in fetching us our first job.
Given below is a brief about our respective profession.
SELF: Sales and marketing professional with extensive global experience in Middle East and Indian market. Education: Engineer (BE-Electronics & Telecommunications) and MBA (Marketing) both from University of Mumbai, India. Looking out for suitable jobs in the slaes and marketing function in Toronto (open to any industry sector). In the pessimistic scenario, I am also open to ANY type of job.
I had met an Employment Advisor in one of the newcomer employment resource centres and she had advised me to join the ACCES Employment's program in Sales and Marketing Connections.
Has anyone been through such program? What is the success rate? Is it helpful in getting a job? (Note: The duration of this program is 4-6 weeks and is offered free to new comers).
WIFE: Looking for an entry-level job. Work-experience of 2 years in India. Education: Masters in Arts (Sociology).She has been house wife as we had to take care of our daughter (daughter is currently 5 years old). She is open to any type of jobs such as Customer service representative, teacher, etc.
We both are very fluent in English.
Please can you guide us and refer us to any suitable employer you would be aware of who can give us our jobs. We would be thankful for any support that you can extend.
Also please provide your feedback on the ACCES Employment Sales & Marketing Connections program.
Thanking you in advance and looking forward to your EARLY reply, we remain.
With best regards.
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