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amit kalia   
Member since: Nov 03
Posts: 434
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-12-08 13:31:01

Quote:
Originally posted by atsz

Canada has more Bhikaris than India. I have no doubt about it. Immigrants who are not successful in India or earning very low are happy in Canada, whereas people earning handsomely in India get pissed off in Canada and mostly return after the experiment. So majority of the people living in Canada count pennies and think about petty purchases and small budgets to make ends meet. I never bothered about my living costs in India which were in dollar terms more than $3000 a month but could make more money (with pride and authority) in India without working like a slog. In Canada you can never ever reach such a position for next few generations.The economy is highly subsidized and over taxed. Education quality till Secondary school is worst than India's, and it becomes unaffordable for most of people to send their kids to college. Students work hard to make ends meet, generate points and try to get scholarships but the system is such that 95% never make it and end up as general labour. This is a "zabardasti ki country" and thatswhy the reason its accepting immigrants and now even more easily. Now even students can work and even a chai-maker can immigrate. Till 1984 this country had respect and pride and all those rosy things for which the Sardars ran selling everything into Canada. However after thaT the country took a declining trend in terms of everything, and today if you tell anyone that you are Canadian, people start pitying you. Indians have become the synonym of wholesole taxi drivers, roof repairers and carpenters. The government has providied lot of help centers for immigrants but the society in general makes them all useless. I think the coming recession will eventually show the real face of this system when local people will get competition from new immigrants in all trades and aspects resulting into tensions. I earn from outside Canada and only live in Canada becuase of good weather and cleanliness. But I really feel sorry for the people who come selling ff their assets and limited money hoping miracles.




I won't use the word "B" to describe people in Canada. But some of your argument makes sense when comparing income expense ratios of educated working professionals in India vs. Canada. Just yesterday I met someone who moved back to India from Canada. This couple used to earn some $60 /hour as IT consultants at bank in Canada and now earn close to three lakhs per month in India. They are happy with their move and save much more in India in comparison to negligible savings while they were here.

I disgree with you as far as Canadian graduates doing general labour jobs. One thing is true that expensive post graduate education ends up our students in debt (those who opt for student loans) for many years.

In my opinion, if someone has low /negligible debt, a paid off home and earn not less than $100,000 after taxes should feel nice in Canada. Otherwise it is more of a struggle and working to make ends meet.

As far as people and envoirnment is concerned, I have yet to come across something better in life. I don't think I would want to leave Canada.

Cheers,


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jonav   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-12-08 14:01:00

Quote:
Originally posted by amit kalia


In my opinion, if someone has low /negligible debt, a paid off home and earn not less than $100,000 after taxes should feel nice in Canada. Otherwise it is more of a struggle and working to make ends meet.

Cheers,



Thanks desibabu,

Yes you are right we are not yet in Canada (hence confused). I appreciate your detail reply; it made things easier to understand. Amit's post above, especially the quoted point is also very valuable. One question though 100,000 after taxes means how much before taxes (Gross salary)?

Jona



pratickm   
Member since: Feb 04
Posts: 2831
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-12-08 14:14:50

Quote:
Originally posted by jonav
One question though 100,000 after taxes means how much before taxes (Gross salary)?
Jona

About $155K -
http://www.ey.com/GLOBAL/content.nsf/Canada/Tax_-_Calculators_-_2008_Personal_Tax

Hope this helps.


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bc2on   
Member since: Jul 08
Posts: 204
Location: Markham

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-01-09 15:41:09

If you want everything right after you land then yes the others are right unless you are bringing a huge amount with you and buy a house paid off. However, if you can not buy your own house after you sell what you have back home then it seems like you do not have much and maybe better for you to move here anyway. The job you currently hold is also a big factor. If you have made a fortune and still making a fortune then why move unless your goal is better environment not money. Under the circumstances, sell what you got there and buy on cash when you arrive, all you need then is utilities, insurance, food and transportation which is not that expensive.
I think only you can decide for yourself what is enough. Get on craigslist and check some rental properties out. Check some stores prices online for the items you normally buy. You can check almost everything online. Is there anyone who moved from your home town ask that person?



amish2   
Member since: Aug 08
Posts: 27
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-01-09 21:29:50

Hi,

What professions does a couple have to work in order to make $120,000 ?

Incidentally, I work in IT where the salaries range $36K to $55K gross (realistically) - ignoring what they tell you on websites.

And I checked Workopolis and monster.ca so they are based job postings.

I think that if you family income is $80K then you have a good life.

Cheers,
Amish



DesiBabu70   
Member since: Feb 04
Posts: 213
Location: St. Catherines ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-01-09 21:51:09

In IT it is only possible if you are in senior management to make that salary.
That too, in private sector.
Banks and govt do not pay that much even if you are in management.
In banks and govt you have to be in executive position to get in the $100K+ range.
But banks and govt have nice benefits though so base salary may not matter much.

Other than IT, there are a few professions which make that much.
Large management and accounting consulting firms like E&Y, Deloitte, etc. pay very well.
Investmennt banks pay very well (Morgan Stanley, Goldman, etc.)

Many self-employed professionals like real estate agents and financial advisors make that much as well, esp. if they are smooth talking, bull shipping types.

In private companies, you can start at lower levels and then make your way up to this level by "integrating" well with the culture of the company, smooth talking, bull shipping, touting your own horn and playing the same games as the Romans (I mean the goras).
In private companies, the more money you make for your company the more they will pay you.



amish2   
Member since: Aug 08
Posts: 27
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-01-09 22:51:21

Exactly as DesiBabu70 mentioned. He has summarized it very well.

You have to be in management (IT). Otherwise 45K to 55K is considered good.




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