puttoo   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-08-08 21:03:58

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if someome ashamed being Hindu....he/she has no pride for his roots/culture:down: ...
than definitely he is not same Indian..as he/she was before





Indian roots are not same as Hindu roots ...... what will you call A R Rehman .... is he Indian !!!!!

What about Abdul Kalam ... he is not a Hindu bit is he a less Indian ....



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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-08-08 21:27:23

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Originally posted by puttoo

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Better ask this question to North East Indians (Nagaland, Miziram) who are clamouring for separation. Certainly it made them "less Indian" Same goes for East Timor.

Also this question should be asked to our Muslim Kashmiri brothers who are denying facilities of temporary shelter to Hindu pilgrims as they fear it would change "Demography" of the Valley.

Let us not be hypocrates. When in India a person changes religion from Hindu, he does because he has been radiclized and then following ideas of radicalized group, likely becomes less indian



Well said ..... so you think Hindusim is what is holding India together !!!! there are more christians in Kerala and Tamil nadu ... why they haven't asked for a separation .

As for Kashmir ..... if you dont understand the problem then you should not discuss it ......

A R Rehman was a hindu before he converted to Islam ... so is he a less Indian ..... for sure he did not convert for economic reason .... probably same for Bobby Jindal and Sunita Williams ..... it was their choice

The problems India is facing today is not because of radicalized converted groups ..... the challenges are different. In the 50-60 the same was said of groups not wanting to learn Hindi ..... they were called as traitors and radicals .... now after 40 years hindi is not the language used in south ... so has that made India weaker or stronger. Today a tamil speaking person is as much an Indian as a hindi speaking person. Inclusion is the key word and not exclusion.



You are quoting examples of individuals here. Please read my post again"
Better ask this question to North East Indians (Nagaland, Miziram) who are clamouring for separation."

Why should I ask APJ Kalam or A R Rehman? Better you ask Doud Ebrahim or Hurriyat leaders.

As regards "Kashmir" issue, I am dumb and you are expert! Well the issue I raised was not abt Kashmir but Muslim Indians and they never raised any protest when Hindu Pandits were being cleaned in genocide as it suits them. If you have any idea about the influence of non Hindu religion on sense of belonging to India, then please post your divine thoughts in what is happening in Assam and enlighten us Gurudev.



puttoo   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-08-08 22:11:51

Sepratist movements have been there in different regions of India .... religion might have been a factor but it is not the only issue. The feeling of alienation in some parts of India is their .....now it is an actual feeling or a percieved feeling, is something that can be debated. But the only way to tackle it is taking the problem head on and not take cover under religious differences.

As for Muslims in India .... how many Hindus protested when Kashmiri pandits were forced out of the valley !!!!!!



puttoo   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-08-08 22:24:27

These Canadian chinese .... Begani shadi mein "Jintao" deewana

Canadian Chinese Celebrate Olympics with Joy, Pride

http://english.cri.cn/6066/2008/08/04/1321s389329.htm



jake3d   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-08-08 22:59:36

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Originally posted by puttoo
Inclusion is the key word and not exclusion.



Puttoo, I think this is beyond some peoples understanding.

The irony is that none of these people would be in Canada if the majority belonged to the mindset that thought along the lines of exclusivity. e.g: Only whites are allowed to migrate here(which was true for a while) OR a new one only Christians can be Canadian (which thankfully will never come to pass).

I see many Canadians decry the athletes of Indian origin who wore the turban as a nod to their sikh origins...going by the logic of the folks on this thread...they are right.

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=7ea965b5-2509-45cb-ab62-48ceb2137c1e

Luckily Canada is inclusive as is India no matter what some say....makes me proud to be part of both.


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