Posted on: 21-08-05 17:55:31
Deepakkumar,
You cannot juxtapose luck with success all the time. There are a lot of people out there who became successful in Canada due to their hardwork.
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I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing.
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Orginally posted by deepakkumar
I am here.
Well, I am sorry, but I am expressing myself and I think that many are agree with the points shown in this letter. You don't have to agree with them. The website is there and you have my name. I supposed the purpose of this forum is to provide useful information to people and I believe this is important to share. If you don’t agree with these people because you are lucky and have some success in Canada, I understand. But those who don't, who are MANY, some who left Canada already, have the right to have an option to defend their rights in this “free country”. Many lawyers and other entities encourage people to come to Canada, selling a false image and creating innocent victims: I could call that “venom” too.
I hope to have some freedom of speech here and I hope I am not going to be censured. If you don’t agree just ignore it as I just ignore and tolerate the opinions from others.
Thanks,
Deepak
If you're referring to my post, nobody's telling you not to post your ideas, but don't SPAM the forum. I warned you once not to start multiple posts on the same thing. You still went ahead and posted this here and started another thread with this.
I will not warn you again, next time you'l be banned.
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Are you there?
Hi ptm,
Thank you for your understanding.
You are right in most of your points. However, many of us have made a big investment coming to this country looking for better opportunities and better life. It was a mistake. What I believe is that we should not come back and just be part of the DESI returned club empty handed. We deserve something after all the time, money, effort and HARD WORK invested during several years to get just rejection in return. That's why I support a justified compensation. For those who believe and are still in Canada or India may give it a try, I will. I think there is nothing to lose. At least we will voice our opinion and contribute to a better future of new immigrants that still believe in the Canadian dream. All the best.
Check the link : http://www.canadaimmigrants.com/Compensation.asp
Thanks,
Deepak
PS : to moderator : I am sorry, I pressed the new topic buttom by mistake. Thank you for deleting it.
Immigrating to Canada is like a Business Venture.You have to take some risks.
Some succeed! Some lose..What to do? If everyone is happy and satisfied in their own country, why they should think of moving?
People are ready to wait for 5 years to come to Canada. But, are they spending atleast 5 months to prepare themselves , to make themselves marketable in Canada? Many , even have no patience, to write properly in a forum like this. When they get the landing papers, they start atleast 5 new threads, wanting to know atleast about 50 different things, all at once, at the earliest.
Blaming others and blaming the system have become a way of life for losers.
Why do not people take steps to change policies in Middle Eastern countries so that people can immigrate there too..Where rules are flexible, we expect more , more and more...I recently read an article in a local news paper. It contained interviews from several immigrants. The Indian immigrant sounded very depressed and dejected about his hardship. Whereas, the immigrants from other couutries said that though survival is hard, they are not ready to quit and probably it may take some more years for them to succeed. We desis have a mentality that ourselves and our qualifications are superior to everyone else, and any job involving physical labour is meanial.It is the survival of the fittest..Don't grumble...Improve yourself...
Good Luck to all immigrants!
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HOPE
That's what i wanted to say in my thread too that prepare your self before you land and be aware of situation.you are right i saw many threads having same questions they dont search that that question is already answered or not....They are depressed becasue they come with high dreams in mind without knowing what they will have to do.Nice thread...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMVuD_in67M
E mere vatan ke logo.............
If you want to do something for our country, just dont support corruption or be part of it
I know about the "improve your self" and all kind of arguments about success in Canada. Why it takes 5 or more years to be "succesful in Canada" ?
The main problem here is the Canadian immigration system that is supported by a corrupted bourocrats and politicians who create an extreme competition in a country with minimum capacity to absorb naive foreign professionals. The success of a minority of immigrants doesn't mean incapacity of the mayority. Read this article.
http://edmsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Jacobs_Mindelle/2005/08/23/1184421.html
"Canadian dream dies"
By Mindelle Jacobs
Selladurai, left, and Nesa Premakumaran stand in front of all their court documents at their Edmonton home yesterday. (Mindelle Jacobs, Sun)
The heartbreaking experience of a couple who left a comfortable life in London and ended up bitter and broke in Canada is a shameful rebuke to our immigration system.
Ottawa beckons tens of thousands of skilled workers to Canada annually on the understanding that the country desperately needs newcomers who will fill labour shortages and bolster the nation's economic growth.
The reality, however, is that enormous numbers of immigrants are having a terrible time either finding jobs in their areas of expertise or getting their foreign educational qualifications recognized by Canadian employers.
Their savings gone and their credit cards maxed out, Selladurai and Nesa Premakumaran now have to rely on relatives to help out while they continue hunting for work.
Prem (as he calls himself) and Nesa came to Canada with their three young children in 1998 (a fourth child was born here) in the belief that they could have a better life here.
They couldn't have been more wrong. Thousands of job applications and a failed lawsuit later, they're at their wit's end.
Prem, an accountant, and Nesa, a bookkeeper, sued the federal government several years ago, alleging immigration officials misled them into believing their qualifications would be recognized and that their skills were needed.
Last week, after lengthy pretrial proceedings, a Federal Court of Canada judge ruled that the suit is not worthy of a trial.
The courts don't wade into policy issues, Justice Konrad von Finckenstein explained.
"It is not the role of the courts to order that agencies be set up to assist immigrant workers, nor can the courts order that the municipal, provincial and federal governments recognize certain skills or credentials," he noted.
Those kinds of issues have to be settled at the ballot box, he added.
He was ruling on a request by lawyers for the federal government that the plaintiffs' claim be dismissed.
"I find that nothing would be gained by allowing this issue to proceed to trial," von Finckenstein declared. The federal government owes a duty of care to the public as a whole, and to the individual plaintiffs, he said.
Quoting a previous court decision, he added the government should be able to govern without worrying about being sued.
"Government, when it legislates even wrongly, incompetently, stupidly or misguidedly, is not liable (for) damages."
Comforting thought, isn't it?
"If the government is not liable for anything they've done, then why did we have the Gomery inquiry at taxpayers' expense?" wonders Prem, 52.
He and his wife have had a series of mostly menial jobs over the years to try to make ends meet. When they apply for work in their fields, they are told they're either under- or over-qualified or that that they need Canadian experience.
"We have all these resources. We are capable of working," says Nesa, 48. "We did not come to this country to go on welfare."
The house they owned in London is now worth 300,000 pounds, they note grimly as they look around their cramped basement apartment.
It's too late to move back to England, they say. Besides, they have no money.
"If we knew that this is what we were going to face here, do you think we would have left England? Nobody would have taken a step to come here," says Nesa.
In some respects, our immigration system seems to be fatally flawed. We emphasize the importance of education and work experience, but employers and professional licensing bodies throw up roadblocks.
A C.D. Howe Institute report on the issue last year suggested we place greater emphasis on employer sponsorship when admitting skilled workers.
Instead, we welcome newcomers and then largely abandon them. It's an appalling waste of immigrant talent.
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Deepakkumar,
What is your problem? Are you one of those unsuccesful immigrants or are you successful? Are you in Canada or India? Canada is not forcing anybody to come here. People take their own decisions. Why blame the system?Do you mean to say that all the 200000 people who immigrate every year are unsuccessful?
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