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ThinkingOne   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 30-06-05 11:30:09

If similar rude experience happens in India, one would have hastily painted all the people there with the same brush. But regarding Canada, could it be so easily put under carpet, by saying she might be having a bad day!!! Double Standards?



DiogenestheCynic   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 30-06-05 12:36:46

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Orginally posted by ThinkingOne

If similar rude experience happens in India, one would have hastily painted all the people there with the same brush. But regarding Canada, could it be so easily put under carpet, by saying she might be having a bad day!!! Double Standards?



While I understand what you are trying to say, it cannot be denied that the percentage of immigration and customs officers that are rude is much higher in India.

In Canada you might experience such a case as 1 in 100, whereas in India that ratio will be the opposite. It will be rare to come across one who will talk to you politely and not try to exploit you.

In India, they are like starving hawks looking for prey. More than doing their jobs they look for kinks that they can use to screw you.

That is the difference!


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ThinkingOne   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 30-06-05 17:41:24

Thanks DTC for the reply.

Regards.



manjeet444   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-07-05 11:17:37

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Hi everyone,

Just wanted to let you know about the humiliating experience my wife and I had last November when we \"landed\" in Canada from the U.S. through the border at Windsor. We were given only six weeks on our visa to come to Canada. Because my wife still had a contract to complete in the U.S., we decided to cross the border for a few days, establish our landing, and return to the U.S. (Our lawyer said this would be okay.) We arrived at the border at about 9 p.m. on a Saturday night. When we went to the immigration counters, I immediately heard one immigration officer, an older woman who was going to serve us, turn to another officer and say, \"Oh, you're lucky you didn't get them.\" I'm not sure if it was our appearance that turned her off, or the fact that she realized immediately that we were coming as PRs and she'd have a lot of paperwork to do. Anyway, she spoke to us very rudely, like we were dirt. She asked for my wife's H-1 and when she found out that it was valid until Oct. 2005, she asked angrily, \"Are you moving to Canada now or going back?\" Because of her tone, we were afraid that we were doing something wrong and we didn't know what to say. My wife finally said that she needed to work in the U.S. until Oct. and tried to explain our situation. The woman didn't want to listen to our explanation and said to my wife, \"Just go and sit down. I don't want to listen to you. I'll process your papers, but I won't apply for your PR card.\" As a man, I felt terrible, standing there and listening to someone talk so rudely to my wife, but I couldn't say anything, because I didn't want to upset this seemingly all-powerful officer.

A Pakistani couple we met outside told us that they had a similar experience with another immigration officer. It left a very bad taste in our mouths and since it was our first taste of our new country, it was doubly distasteful. But we told ourselves that we shouldn't let one rude person spoil our impression of an entire country. Every country has rude people and friendly people. In an ideal world, the immigration officer would smile and say, \"Welcome to Canada\" and make you feel good about moving here.

I hope others are a little more prepared for this than we were. The funny thing is, my wife thought we'd have an easy time with the Candian border officers but she had some anxiety about the American officers upon our return. The exact opposite happened.

Melv



Well, thats Canada!!....Welcome to La La land...:)

I cross the Niagara border frequently, never had any problems with the US customs, not even once. But the Canadian immigrations officers search my car everytime I come to Canada.....bring in dogs and stuff..... wonder if they are just doing ther job.

~M



DesiTiger   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-07-05 17:03:00

Quote:
Orginally posted by manjeet444

Quote:
Orginally posted by Melv

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to let you know about the humiliating experience my wife and I had last November when we \"landed\" in Canada from the U.S. through the border at Windsor. We were given only six weeks on our visa to come to Canada. Because my wife still had a contract to complete in the U.S., we decided to cross the border for a few days, establish our landing, and return to the U.S. (Our lawyer said this would be okay.) We arrived at the border at about 9 p.m. on a Saturday night. When we went to the immigration counters, I immediately heard one immigration officer, an older woman who was going to serve us, turn to another officer and say, \"Oh, you're lucky you didn't get them.\" I'm not sure if it was our appearance that turned her off, or the fact that she realized immediately that we were coming as PRs and she'd have a lot of paperwork to do. Anyway, she spoke to us very rudely, like we were dirt. She asked for my wife's H-1 and when she found out that it was valid until Oct. 2005, she asked angrily, \"Are you moving to Canada now or going back?\" Because of her tone, we were afraid that we were doing something wrong and we didn't know what to say. My wife finally said that she needed to work in the U.S. until Oct. and tried to explain our situation. The woman didn't want to listen to our explanation and said to my wife, \"Just go and sit down. I don't want to listen to you. I'll process your papers, but I won't apply for your PR card.\" As a man, I felt terrible, standing there and listening to someone talk so rudely to my wife, but I couldn't say anything, because I didn't want to upset this seemingly all-powerful officer.

A Pakistani couple we met outside told us that they had a similar experience with another immigration officer. It left a very bad taste in our mouths and since it was our first taste of our new country, it was doubly distasteful. But we told ourselves that we shouldn't let one rude person spoil our impression of an entire country. Every country has rude people and friendly people. In an ideal world, the immigration officer would smile and say, \"Welcome to Canada\" and make you feel good about moving here.

I hope others are a little more prepared for this than we were. The funny thing is, my wife thought we'd have an easy time with the Candian border officers but she had some anxiety about the American officers upon our return. The exact opposite happened.

Melv



Well, thats Canada!!....Welcome to La La land...:)

I've cross the Niagara border frequently, never had any problems with the US customs, not even once. But the Canadian immigrations officers search my car everytime I come to Canada.....bring in dogs and stuff..... wonder if they are just doing ther job.

~M



Manjeet, are you implying that all Canadians are rude? If that is so, is this based solely on your unfortunate experiences with Customs Canada at Niagara crossing or have you experienced rude behavior in other places as well? Please clarify.

Thanks

DT


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DesiTiger   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-07-05 17:05:07

btw, I have heard a lot of bad things about Niagara Crossing (on US and Canadian side) from a lot of different people. I have crossed a few times at Windsor to visit my sister who lives there and have never had any trouble (Knock Knock!).


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manjeet444   
Member since: Jan 05
Posts: 129
Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-07-05 17:23:37

Quote:
Orginally posted by DesiTiger

Quote:
Orginally posted by manjeet444

Quote:
Orginally posted by Melv

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to let you know about the humiliating experience my wife and I had last November when we \"landed\" in Canada from the U.S. through the border at Windsor. We were given only six weeks on our visa to come to Canada. Because my wife still had a contract to complete in the U.S., we decided to cross the border for a few days, establish our landing, and return to the U.S. (Our lawyer said this would be okay.) We arrived at the border at about 9 p.m. on a Saturday night. When we went to the immigration counters, I immediately heard one immigration officer, an older woman who was going to serve us, turn to another officer and say, \"Oh, you're lucky you didn't get them.\" I'm not sure if it was our appearance that turned her off, or the fact that she realized immediately that we were coming as PRs and she'd have a lot of paperwork to do. Anyway, she spoke to us very rudely, like we were dirt. She asked for my wife's H-1 and when she found out that it was valid until Oct. 2005, she asked angrily, \"Are you moving to Canada now or going back?\" Because of her tone, we were afraid that we were doing something wrong and we didn't know what to say. My wife finally said that she needed to work in the U.S. until Oct. and tried to explain our situation. The woman didn't want to listen to our explanation and said to my wife, \"Just go and sit down. I don't want to listen to you. I'll process your papers, but I won't apply for your PR card.\" As a man, I felt terrible, standing there and listening to someone talk so rudely to my wife, but I couldn't say anything, because I didn't want to upset this seemingly all-powerful officer.

A Pakistani couple we met outside told us that they had a similar experience with another immigration officer. It left a very bad taste in our mouths and since it was our first taste of our new country, it was doubly distasteful. But we told ourselves that we shouldn't let one rude person spoil our impression of an entire country. Every country has rude people and friendly people. In an ideal world, the immigration officer would smile and say, \"Welcome to Canada\" and make you feel good about moving here.

I hope others are a little more prepared for this than we were. The funny thing is, my wife thought we'd have an easy time with the Candian border officers but she had some anxiety about the American officers upon our return. The exact opposite happened.

Melv



Well, thats Canada!!....Welcome to La La land...:)

I've cross the Niagara border frequently, never had any problems with the US customs, not even once. But the Canadian immigrations officers search my car everytime I come to Canada.....bring in dogs and stuff..... wonder if they are just doing ther job.

~M



Manjeet, are you implying that all Canadians are rude? If that is so, is this based solely on your unfortunate experiences with Customs Canada at Niagara crossing or have you experienced rude behavior in other places as well? Please clarify.

Thanks

DT



DT,

Well, I can't speak of each and every Canadian, obviously. But I've found Canadians in general a little less accepting when it comes to Indians. With the majority of blue collared jobs being taken by desis, Canadians some how cannot fathom an educated south asian.

I've come across some very polite and accepting people as well, VP marketing of my company being one of them.

Other places.......get pulled over by a cop in Peel Region, that will explain it all....:)

I once called up 911 to report a crime. The dispacher asked me if the suspect was Indian...:)

A white girl I dated for a few months actually told me that her friends think she is not 'white' anymore because she was dating me...:)

Do I need more reasons?...:D

~M





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