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Creating a good Canadian Resume! - 1st impressions
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Das, Your intent and your efforts are indeed commendable. Unfortunately, there are some limitations to providing advice to new Canadian immigrants from the sub-continent, some quick thoughts.

1. Adaptability - Most desis seriously lack the ability to adapt. They are determined to re-create an India wherever they land, rather than understanding the culture of their new home and becoming a part of it. The attitude shows itself up in different forms. One example (just an example) is most immigrants would rather follow a cricket match in faraway India, rather than learn something about the Leafs and hockey in Canada. What could have been a good conversation starter or ice-breaker at the office or socially, is invariably lost. (of course now Im going to have the next 20 posters asking me if knowledge of ice-hockey is needed to get a job in Canada, but that just shows their inability to get-the-point). Perhaps Canadas view of itself as a mosaic rather than a melting pot is to blame for this lack of adaptability, if you know what I mean.

2. Language Youve highlighted the fact that desis dont proof read their Resumes. While I agree, you have to look beyond that to the use of words and pronounciation at an interview. However, when you tell desis that they need to remove regional influences from their language, they interpret it as meaning that a phony accent is required. The result ends up sounding worse than the original. The bloke then comes back to a forum such as this one, frustrated and starts venting with all sorts of irrational comments. Some go back to wherever they came from (either India or the Middle East) and continue to post irrational negative comments, looking for assurance that they made the right decision by leaving Canada. Another new immigrant picks up on the venting, starts to assume that Canada has NO work that is suitable for him, gets into a dead-end job and the cycle continues.

3. At the workplace For those that do get hired: most stick to a desi crowd. I have 2 at my workplace and they hang around together, seemingly most comfortable when they talk to each other in Hindi. They make no attempt to hang out with the other folks. Toronto can be an amazing place, with a variety of cultures, but desis have this cultural superiority complex, afraid that theyll lose their own culture if they associate with anyone else.

I hate to say that Ive been-there-done-that, but good luck to you!


 
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I liked reading this thread. Thanks to Das-FX and crenshaw. Excellent discussion :) and I agree with the points raised. Keep guiding us.

Regards.



 
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Hey

Yeah I understand that you arent giving the info out for your own benefit. However, good advice doesnt necessarily appeal to the average desi. Theyre far more receptive to the next conspiracy theory or allegations of racism. Thats what gets the show going! Its a lot easier for people to look around for excuses, than look at themselves and understand and do something about their weaknesses.

Coming back to the communication skills issue that youve talked about repeatedly. When I first did that, there were tons of posts to dispute it, saying that communication skills were absolutely unnecessary to get a job in Canada. One contributor asked if getting an English masters degree from a Canadian university would be the answer to the job concerns of all sub-continental immigrants.

I guess I started out with a similar intent to help people with information based on my own experience as an immigrant. A futile exercisethats what I meant by my been-there-done-that comment.

BTW, Ive sent you a PM.....


 
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Orginally posted by crenshaw

Das, Your intent and your efforts are indeed commendable. Unfortunately, there are some limitations to providing advice to new Canadian immigrants from the sub-continent, some quick thoughts.

1. Adaptability - Most desis seriously lack the ability to adapt. They are determined to re-create an India wherever they land, rather than understanding the culture of their new home and becoming a part of it. The attitude shows itself up in different forms. One example (just an example) is most immigrants would rather follow a cricket match in faraway India, rather than learn something about the Leafs and hockey in Canada. What could have been a good conversation starter or ice-breaker at the office or socially, is invariably lost. (of course now Im going to have the next 20 posters asking me if knowledge of ice-hockey is needed to get a job in Canada, but that just shows their inability to get-the-point). Perhaps Canadas view of itself as a mosaic rather than a melting pot is to blame for this lack of adaptability, if you know what I mean.

2. Language Youve highlighted the fact that desis dont proof read their Resumes. While I agree, you have to look beyond that to the use of words and pronounciation at an interview. However, when you tell desis that they need to remove regional influences from their language, they interpret it as meaning that a phony accent is required. The result ends up sounding worse than the original. The bloke then comes back to a forum such as this one, frustrated and starts venting with all sorts of irrational comments. Some go back to wherever they came from (either India or the Middle East) and continue to post irrational negative comments, looking for assurance that they made the right decision by leaving Canada. Another new immigrant picks up on the venting, starts to assume that Canada has NO work that is suitable for him, gets into a dead-end job and the cycle continues.

3. At the workplace For those that do get hired: most stick to a desi crowd. I have 2 at my workplace and they hang around together, seemingly most comfortable when they talk to each other in Hindi. They make no attempt to hang out with the other folks. Toronto can be an amazing place, with a variety of cultures, but desis have this cultural superiority complex, afraid that theyll lose their own culture if they associate with anyone else.

I hate to say that Ive been-there-done-that, but good luck to you!



For the first time, I like what Crenshaw said. And its true. Desis are too hung up with their own culture and don't want to adapt a new one, even when they have decided to spend the rest of their lives here. I've seen that at my work place as well.

Its really rude to speak in your native language in the presence of other people who don't understand a word of it.

I still don't like canada and have my own reason for it. One of the reasons is the presence of desis like these.

~M


 
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