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I am likely to land shortly in Canada. Whether learning french language will give any edge in getting jobs there apart from English. I want to settle any where in Canada, where job oppurtunities are good. Further any body, please suggest any other place than Toronto, as I feel it is full of immigrants and chances of getting jobs are bleak. Am I right?
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tinku
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06-05-05 11:14:08
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sudesingh
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French will only give you an advantage in Quebec.
In Toronto, I've even seems people survive with basic English.
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me2canada
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Usually being bilingual has proven to be an asset in the East. Though Quebec has prominence, no doubt, there are some companies in New Brunswick, Ontario & Manitoba that may prefer bilinguals or may be interested in hiring them more than the mono-linguals.
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ezrider
Desi Member since: Dec 04


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Some jobs in Customer support and sales in many parts of Canada out of Quebec and New Brunswick need you to be speak French fluently. If you are less than fluent, you may not be considered.
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ezrider
Desi Member since: Dec 04


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Quote: Orginally posted by tinku
I am likely to land shortly in Canada. Whether learning french language will give any edge in getting jobs there apart from English. I want to settle any where in Canada, where job oppurtunities are good. Further any body, please suggest any other place than Toronto, as I feel it is full of immigrants and chances of getting jobs are bleak. Am I right?
8 out of 10 immigrants to Canada end up in the Greater Toronto Area (even though they may initially live in other parts of Canada). This suggests that the job prospects there are certainly not 'bleak'.
Other Desis may better advise other cities which offer 'good job opportunities'
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ani70
Senior Desi Member since: Oct 03


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Quebec and New Brunswick need you to be speak French fluently.
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Bilingual means you need to be fluent in French (spoken and written) which I believe is not possible to get by doing a crash course.In my office some of guys from North Africa(Like Morocco,Algeria etc) was telling me that though French was their first language back home when they landed in Quebec it was extremely difficult to follow or pronounce Frnech Canadian style French.
So my point of view is if you want to be Bilingual you need to put more than 100% effort and take it very seriously..your target will be like like Lallo Prasad Yadav or Injamam Ul Haque speaking fluent English(not hinglish)
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bison
Senior Desi Member since: Nov 04


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Quote: Orginally posted by ani70
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Quebec and New Brunswick need you to be speak French fluently.
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Bilingual means you need to be fluent in French (spoken and written) which I believe is not possible to get by doing a crash course.In my office some of guys from North Africa(Like Morocco,Algeria etc) was telling me that though French was their first language back home when they landed in Quebec it was extremely difficult to follow or pronounce Frnech Canadian style French.
So my point of view is if you want to be Bilingual you need to put more than 100% effort and take it very seriously..your target will be like like Lallo Prasad Yadav or Injamam Ul Haque speaking fluent English(not hinglish)
On some points i agree, on some i dont ... Again these are "MY" opinions 
Bilingual means "Using or able to use two languages, especially with equal or nearly equal fluency." (read/write/speak).
For most Canadians, U R bilinigual if u speak English and French. Otherwise ur not (DON-MATA u speak 6 other languagues)
Agreed, Quebecwa French is a dialect of French from France (A regional or social variety of a language distinguished by pronunciation, grammar, or vocabulary, especially a variety of speech differing from the standard literary language or speech pattern of the culture in which it exists). Dont think its that different tho...
Know lots of Indians who speak such good Quebecwa French that locals are surpised and they cant help stop applaud when they hear it... Agreed, there arent many tho....
tinku,
French will always look on ur resume, no-mata what job u do.
Usually job postings specify if French is preferred or required. U will have a upper edge if ur competing with someone who speaks only english and ur job involves communicating with people who speak French.
If u restrict ur place of living to somwhere where french is spoken, u will need to learn it. Otherwise, U can survive and thrive just on Anglais 
bison
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ani70
Senior Desi Member since: Oct 03


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Hi Bison,
I totally agree to your point Bison.
If you plan to settle in Quebec and want to be in Top management level in your office you have no other chioce other than be Bilingual ....at least this applies to non gora guys like us.
I also met desi guys (Partcularly Tamil/Srilankan guys in Auto Repai shops) who speak fluent French which even surprise Frnch Canadians.
At the same time I met with desi guys(including Professors in my wife's University) who are in Montreal for more than 10-15 years but never tried to learn French.
One thing so far I observed is in Montreal atleast there is a clear conflict between Fancophone and Anglophone culture.
In my office All anglophone guys though they are perfect bilingual they always speak in English even when he/she is speaking with a Francophone guy.Very rare I saw the otherway round
Also all Irish guys in my office they never tried to learn franch and still they are just doing fine and grabbing top management level positions.
btw Because I am too lazy to start learning a new language like French I am not planning to settle down in Montreal ..though my performance in office been highly appreciated so far
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tinku
Junior Desi Member since: Apr 05


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french knowledge
to settle in Manitoba province, whether french knowledge is really essential? can't we manage in English for getting jobs etc.?
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desi in ottawa
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Injamam Ul Haque?
LOL, good one.
To settle in Manitoba, English is enough. But be prepared for the harsh weather in that province.
Learning French is not like learning a programming language through a crash course. Needs lot of time, more than a year, full time. It helps a lot if u know French, when u want to get into Federal Govt.
DIO
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