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Five years ago, I was offered as much as Rs. 15 lakhs/year. I had several offers between 10-15 lakhs. I turned all down. Just the negotiation process by Indian companies told me that I most probably wouldn't be able to fit in to Indian work culture. I never worked in India. Only place I ever worked was in USA.

Also, I just couln't stand the crowd, the noise, the cramped living spaces, the filth and the pollution. I don't think I can live or work in India for any amount of money. For me, it was lifestyle and environment issue than money.

In last 15 years, I visited India only twice. I prefer to use the money, I would spend visiting India, to visit different countries.

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To me, it is not just the salary. I just came to Canada from the US last week, realizing that I wouldn't be able to get a green card. My other option would have been to go back to India in a few months for about Rs 65K pm. If I chose that option, in a couple of years, I would probably be able to aim for upto 1 lakh pm.

But I'm in IT, and geez, I see the work and lifestyle of people working in large offshore companies, and have felt that it is not worth it, atleast for me. Constant fire-fighting and the peer pressures, not to mention the insomnia - sometimes I think there is no respect for time.

Over and above that, there is the quality of life..

This is just my opinion as of now, as I have lived most of my working life outside India. Wouldn't mind going if I'm sent to India on business trips, once in a while, though

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Orginally posted by AnilKG

Five years ago, I was offered as much as Rs. 15 lakhs/year. I had several offers between 10-15 lakhs. I turned all down. Just the negotiation process by Indian companies told me that I most probably wouldn't be able to fit in to Indian work culture. I never worked in India. Only place I ever worked was in USA.

Also, I just couln't stand the crowd, the noise, the cramped living spaces, the filth and the pollution. I don't think I can live or work in India for any amount of money. For me, it was lifestyle and environment issue than money.

In last 15 years, I visited India only twice. I prefer to use the money, I would spend visiting India, to visit different countries.

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To me, it is not just the salary. I just came to Canada from the US last week, realizing that I wouldn't be able to get a green card. My other option would have been to go back to India in a few months for about Rs 65K pm. If I chose that option, in a couple of years, I would probably be able to aim for upto 1 lakh pm.

But I'm in IT, and geez, I see the work and lifestyle of people working in large offshore companies, and have felt that it is not worth it, atleast for me. Constant fire-fighting and the peer pressures, not to mention the insomnia - sometimes I think there is no respect for time.

Over and above that, there is the quality of life..

This is just my opinion as of now, as I have lived most of my working life outside India. Wouldn't mind going if I'm sent to India on business trips, once in a while, though

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I would love to travel too but given the measly vacation time available in NA, I find myself going back to India every year or 2 years to visit my parents. Just wondering how do folks here achieve a balance between visiting parents and fulfiling their travel dreams. Also when I get to India within 2 weeks I am tired of the dust, inadequate space to walk on the pavements because they are all dug up, the smell of urine odour on the pavements and the honking of horns by people who have probably lost half their hearing.

I eagerly wait to get back to NA, but when I am here the anticipation of the India trip is everything. Strange !! Any similar experiences

Dont mean to hijack this thread Manasvi but I want to get an answer from people in this thread.

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I would love to travel too but given the measly vacation time available in NA, I find myself going back to India every year or 2 years to visit my parents. Just wondering how do folks here achieve a balance between visiting parents and fulfiling their travel dreams.
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Dont mean to hijack this thread Manasvi but I want to get an answer from people in this thread.

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Let me tell a few experiences of my visit to Paris a few yearrs back. It was around 11.00 p.m. in the night and we were walking back to our hotel from the nearby metro station. Suddendly a car stops, a well dressed guy gets down ( two females are sitting in the car ). He finds a place near a building and opens his zip and pees. Paris has enough civic sense, enough public toilets. But he still finds the pavement to relieve himself. The point is such people are everywhere. So do not run from such situations. And maybe even in Toronto. So unless we do not do something to change this situation, whats the point in complaining. In Rome, you find people spitting on the streets!!! In the Pairs metro and a guy sticks to you when you put your ticket in the gate to validate and open the gate, the guys passes in with you without paying for a ticket. Do you mean Toronto is crime free, guns free, absolutely safe?? Girls move around at 2.00 a.m. in the night in Gujarat without a worry ( during navaratri ). Can you say the same about Toronto? i have not beem there, so cannnot comment. This is my personal opinion, and I have different reasons to come over there.

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TO go back to the original question, in my case no amount of money would be sufficient since the work environment in my profession (civil engineer) in India is just not the same. The state of the art is behind, and there are considerable more chances of encountering unscrupulous characters. So I just wouldn't survive out there.

BTW I think the time is ripe for someone to do a sequel to Swades where SRKs character goes back with high ideals and the situations he faces there and how he overcomes them. Somone like Ashutosh or Nagesh Kukunoor would be ideal for a subject like that. Anybody want to collaborate on a script for this film. We'd call it "Swades ya Pardes" to depic the conflict in the hero's mind

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I think the OP was "How much salary would it take for you to want to go back to India?".

I was a little surprised to read some of the answers where people have given reasons like filth, bad roads, pollution, excrement, power shortage, animals on streets etc. as justifications for refusing to return to India.

I suppose it was pretty clear from the OP that he was putting a hypothetical question and therefore there is no limit to the amount of money that one could ask for.

Am I to understand that those who have replied in the negative would not go to India regardless of what they were offered? Even with no limits?

Is it so difficult to understand that given the necessary amount of money, it is quite easy to live a life in India that is so far removed from the negatives mentioned as to not have any affect on ones's life at all?

Are you saying Mukesh Ambani and Anil Ambani, Azim Premji, Sunil Mittal, Shiv Nadar, Kumar Mangalam Birla etc . or even lesser than them suffer from power shortage, bad roads, excrement, pollution and filth??

Besided there are quite a few small but significant tangible and intangible pleasures that one's own country provides that can never be had in a foreign land, at least for the first generation immigrants.

And finally, no offence meant, but maybe you would also not want to live with your mother if she suffers from some ugly disease.

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I think 6 -7 lacs/annum will be okay for me to return.

I live in small city so this is okay for me.

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