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Posted on: 02-03-05 13:45:32
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Orginally posted by DesiTiger
That's what makes me feel proud to be an Indian. We are a Nation with Hindu majority, a Muslim President and a Sikh Prime Minister. No other country in the world can claim that.
That said, I still don't agree with a lot of polices of the Govt. that sidelines the majority Hindu population, but again, that discussion is for another Thread
The Prime Minister is an Indian first, then a Sikh.
The President is an Indian First, Then a Muslim.
Why do you keep highlighting the religion?
Do you want it this way that everytime we talk about politics, we point out what religion we (or leaders) belong to?
I thought you being such a nationalist would like to say "I am an Indian first".
Yet, you keep bringing in the religion.
In India religion is a private affair.
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Orginally posted by mercury6
In India religion is a private affair.
Really? Then why were Sikhs rejoicing on the streets of Delhi when Manmohan singh became PM?
I am not dragging religion into Politics. All I am doing is Highlighting the fact that our country is the only one that doesn't discriminate on the basis of religion for choosing people for Political office.
Maybe You missed the "I'm proud to be an Indian" part in my post
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Orginally posted by DesiTiger
Really? Then why were Sikhs rejoicing on the streets of Delhi when Manmohan singh became PM?
you didnt like it, did you?
Sikhs will be able to tell better.
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I am not dragging religion into Politics. All I am doing is Highlighting the fact that our country is the only one that doesn't discriminate on the basis of religion for choosing people for Political office.
We all know that. We all believe in it. It is that way because we all believe in it and the majority Likes to keep it that way.
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Maybe You missed the "I'm proud to be an Indian" part in my post
You are not the only one.
Although I dont like to say Proud. I an happy that I am an Indian.
Honestly, I dont see the link between nationalism and pride.
True pride is usually derived from some achievement, not from some historical accident.
That would mean there is a question for all of us "what have you done for your country"?
Nationalism is not pride, it is a trick. It is what drives the naive and foolish to die in a corner of some foreign field, what allows people to treat others as less than human because of their different place of birth, religion, race.
Dont overestimate your love for India and underestimate other's.
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Orginally posted by mercury6
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Orginally posted by DesiTiger
Really? Then why were Sikhs rejoicing on the streets of Delhi when Manmohan singh became PM?
you didnt like it, did you?
Sikhs will be able to tell better.
--- FYI I have Sikhs in my family too
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I am not dragging religion into Politics. All I am doing is Highlighting the fact that our country is the only one that doesn't discriminate on the basis of religion for choosing people for Political office.
We all know that. We all believe in it. It is that way because we all believe in it and the majority Likes to keep it that way.
--- Good to see we agree on something
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Maybe You missed the "I'm proud to be an Indian" part in my post
You are not the only one.
Although I dont like to say Proud. I an happy that I am an Indian.
Honestly, I dont see the link between nationalism and pride.
True pride is usually derived from some achievement, not from some historical accident.
That would mean there is a question for all of us "what have you done for your country"?
Nationalism is not pride, it is a trick. It is what drives the naive and foolish to die in a corner of some foreign field, what allows people to treat others as less than human because of their different place of birth, religion, race.
Dont overestimate your love for India and underestimate other's.
---- How do you estimate your love for your country? How do you "underestimate" other's love for their country without saying a word about their love?
--- Anyways, let's get back to "Chacha Nehru" shall we? If you want to talk about Nationalism and Religion / Politics, please start another thread.
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Orginally posted by DesiTiger
you didnt like it, did you?
Sikhs will be able to tell better.
--- FYI I have Sikhs in my family too
And again, there is no need to mention it unless you want to make a point that you are extra big on tolerance.
Just for the Record, I have Sikhs, hindus in my family. Just have to add a Christian and I am done. Nobody will be able to Beat that.
HA HA HA HA *evil laughter*
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I once made a mistake, but I was wrong about it.
Guys, please post your views for or against Chacha Nehru
Thanks
DT
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Orginally posted by mercury6
Dont overestimate your love for India and underestimate other's.
I agree.
Also dont assume that everyones 'love' for india means a love for standing army, ever shifting borders, economic highs and lows and color of flags. Some choose to love India based on less superficial things, which has nothing to do with the above issues. A ''Country'' based on those issues may well be irrelevant to the same people.
About Nehru...like someone once said...and I agree now. Why waste time talking about dead people
? If its blame we are focussing on...there is enough to go around for each one of us. Hindsight is 20/20.It is obvious that India did not have perfect leaders(or we would not have many of the problems we have now)...not at the time of Independence and definitely not now. This holds true for all the political parties. Further, this truth extends to all countries.
Is there any politician who cannot be blamed(even though our judgement itself is relative) for one wrong decision or the other?
OR in other words
DT, was there a leader at that time who would have been able to eradicate ALL of Indias many problems, within his/her lifetime. I doubt you would be able to name any...even with the advantage of hindsight.
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