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Labour Jobs




Hi guys,

I want to ask all you guys on CD what do you call as a labour job, Everyone says that in canada we must be prepared to do labour job, Please describe them in a bit of detail as many of us still don't have a wide and clear picture of things that are described as labour jobs.

I request you senior desies especially to tell about your experiences during your initial days in Canada.Also tell how much were you getting paid per hours as I would like to understand that whether that much earning takes care of your expenses. ALso how long were you in the labour job before you shifted to another type of a job.

This would really open our eyes a litter more before landing there.

Thanks Guys & Gals
Archana


 
acpatel

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Post ID: 37162 18-01-05 11:58:50
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Orginally posted by acpatel

Hi guys,

I want to ask all you guys on CD what do you call as a labour job, Everyone says that in canada we must be prepared to do labour job, Please describe them in a bit of detail as many of us still don't have a wide and clear picture of things that are described as labour jobs.

I request you senior desies especially to tell about your experiences during your initial days in Canada.Also tell how much were you getting paid per hours as I would like to understand that whether that much earning takes care of your expenses. ALso how long were you in the labour job before you shifted to another type of a job.

This would really open our eyes a litter more before landing there.

Thanks Guys & Gals
Archana


You kow coolie or bhangi or waiter or cook or mamma, imagine them doing their job continous for 8 hrs not allowed to sit THAT is what labour jobs are, your supervisor is god and if he asks you to jump in ice cold water you have to do it or will not be allowed inside work premises next hour. Canada has worker safety board but I don't know what laws are implemented at workplace in Canada. I have seen and experienced too, lifting of more than 50 lbs weight without safety belts. If jobs are not heavy they are very fast and you have to do it continous for eight hours with 2 * 15 min break.
Sitting in India you can not imagine what is labour job.

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Post ID: 37163 18-01-05 12:17:23
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Interceptor
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Labour jobs are very near to slavery...

It is in modern terms "SLAVERY"

People have been forced to do slavery in canada after immigrating as there are not other options available to survive..

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Post ID: 37165 18-01-05 12:22:16
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crenshaw
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A relevant link:

http://www.gov.on.ca/LAB/english/es/hours/info_hours.html

These conditions are implemented stringently. Complaints are investigated by the Ministry of Labour. Accidents in the workplace are taken very seriously.


 
Post ID: 37166 18-01-05 13:05:15
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jago_desi
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A relevant link:

http://www.gov.on.ca/LAB/english/es/hours/info_hours.html

These conditions are implemented stringently. Complaints are investigated by the Ministry of Labour. Accidents in the workplace are taken very seriously.


I can give you name of the company which moderator will not like and give you contact information of employee involved, they objected to certain sets of job on grounds of dangerous condition. They were asked to lift more than 50 lbs weight carry it to certain distance and stack. It is not possible at workpalce to weigh exact weight. They were shown piece of paper signed by them agreeing to lift 50lbs weight. In the same shift accident occured and one person was hospitalised. After couple of days when this person resumed work he was fired on some other issue. Ask WSIB how many cases are reported to them. If you know any doctor working in hospital, ask them how many cases go reported to WSIB. If a worker is absent from the job after injury then only WSIB comes in to picture. But employer makes sure that the person physically reaches works and is swiped in for complete shift although he is not required to work. Why this loop hole in law? Why they dont inspect work site if accident is reported. Where I worked, supervisor will come shouting that WSIB is paying visit today so everybody has to follow rules. You have very respectable image of Canada. People who have worked in Canada as labour are very well aware how active WSIB is and how these stringent laws are maintained in this land of mordern slavery.
I wont care to visit the link you have posted because these laws are not maintained.
If you want to experience, PM me I will make arrangement for you to work as labour for 1 shift alone. After that tell us how laws are maintained at workplace in Canada.

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Post ID: 37170 18-01-05 13:33:32
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Orginally posted by jago_desi
I can give you name of the company which moderator will not like and give you contact information of employee involved, they objected to certain sets of job on grounds of dangerous condition. They were asked to lift more than 50 lbs weight carry it to certain distance and stack. It is not possible at workpalce to weigh exact weight. They were shown piece of paper signed by them agreeing to lift 50lbs weight. In the same shift accident occured and one person was hospitalised. After couple of days when this person resumed work he was fired on some other issue. Ask WSIB how many cases are reported to them. If you know any doctor working in hospital, ask them how many cases go reported to WSIB. If a worker is absent from the job after injury then only WSIB comes in to picture. But employer makes sure that the person physically reaches works and is swiped in for complete shift although he is not required to work. Why this loop hole in law? Why they dont inspect work site if accident is reported. Where I worked, supervisor will come shouting that WSIB is paying visit today so everybody has to follow rules. You have very respectable image of Canada. People who have worked in Canada as labour are very well aware how active WSIB is and how these stringent laws are maintained in this land of mordern slavery.
I wont care to visit the link you have posted because these laws are not maintained.
If you want to experience, PM me I will make arrangement for you to work as labour for 1 shift alone. After that tell us how laws are maintained at workplace in Canada.



The link that I provided (which you do not want to visit) is to the Ministry of Labour. Where laws are not being followed, an employee can call the telephone numbers provided, and an investigation will result.

Incidentally, my information is based on compliance responsibilities that I have at a manufacturing company. Amongst a lot of other things that I do, I make surprise visits to the shop floor to ensure that the company's (and the Ontario employment) standards are being met. I've also had the opportunity to visit a large number of companies in and around the GTA.

While I appreciate your experiences, you'd have to understand that they are in no way typical of the work environment in Canada. Besides, mechanisms exist to report abuses, both within the company as well as directly to the Ministry of Labour.

Companies - especially larger employers - take their safety standards very seriously and also expend a fair amount of resources in ensuring that abuses to not occur. They do that for a reason - they could be subject to huge fines if found to be in violation, besides the negative publicity from being labelled as having an irresponsible corporate culture....


 
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Guys,

There is no need to fight on this issue.

On a side note, what abt the temp agencies who send unsuspecting immigrants to do the labor jobs? What they tell the employee is different from what the person does at the work premises. Strange? Nah. Its common. If you complain, they will get someone else to do the work.


 
Post ID: 37179 18-01-05 14:03:32
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bison
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Always heard it... Here my attempt to answer ur question
General Labor : I think (and correct me if am wrong) it means continuously doing physically challenging work.

Depending on the employer who u r working for, Typically :

a) Work in packaging department (do the packing)
b) Work in QA department (check packaged items, etc..)
c) Work in Shipping department (load trucks)
d) Sewing machine operators
e) Pressing (Ironing)
etc, etc...

I think any work that involves physical labor (majuri) falls under this category.

Let me explain by giving u a general idea of what how some people live here...(assuming they are doing labor work)

U get paid minimum wages. Work 8/12 Hrs a day...non-stop...with just 2/3 breaks per day. Cant take phone calls(some companies). You get paid by the minute. (Go out to take a phone call that lasts 10 minutes and they cut ur pay.) They pay you 1and1/2 times when u work extra hours(evenings/weekends), which most people would gladly do just to be able to afford their desires. You dont get vacations. Dont get to spend enough time with ur kids. Saving is tough. Making ends meet is tough. And when u go to India, u go spend like a lakh in a month and show everyone that ur rich and life is wonderful out here. Its like :kaioken: :smash:

On the brigther note, if i may will, u will be earning in dollars and will be able to live on ur own. Assuming u make 8$/hr(varies by provinces) and work 40 hrs a week, u make 320/week i.e. 1280/month. After taxes, its like 900/month. 900*35=31500/- Rs/month.... Sounds good, doesnt it? well, if ur paying 900$/month rent for an appartment, with 2 people doing labor work, u WILL save some money, and will be more than willing to put in those gruelling extra hours...
U dont wanna depend on anyone. In the initial days u cry at the end of every day. After a while u get used to it, and can laugh about it. U can buy a second hand car in like 2 years.

:shoot: :kaioken:

:p bison


 
Post ID: 37181 18-01-05 14:06:24
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Orginally posted by crenshaw

Companies - especially larger employers - take their safety standards very seriously and also expend a fair amount of resources in ensuring that abuses to not occur. They do that for a reason - they could be subject to huge fines if found to be in violation, besides the negative publicity from being labelled as having an irresponsible corporate culture....


They are very few in Toronto. They hire directly rather than going thru palcement agencies. BUT where do the majority of immigrants get work / labour jobs from. Agencies, correct? These agencies will send them to companies where rules are not followed or rather any rule exists for these companies.
You have a very good experience of Canada. From labour job to a office work environment, it is a 180 deg turn. Believe me, I have experienced.
You may be taking care that law are followed becuase of your dedication and being a new immigrant. Officials who are in Canada for quite a length period, they don't care how work is done.

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Post ID: 37182 18-01-05 14:11:15
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mercury6
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The compliance thing is a 50 - 50. Where the employee is not willing to take the initiative the employer just doesnt care.

The place where I work is ISO9000 certified. So everything has a basic standard below which it never goes. Or so you would think. but it does.
But anyways We could argue about it forever and I am not going to do that.

There are a very large number of smaller compnaies who dont give a shit about rules. the people they employ are temp of temp.....By which i mean on a day to day basis. You go to the agency before 7 am in the morning with your steel toe boots and wait to be literally handed an assignment for a day or two or something like that.

Mine is not that type. I am a temp working on hourly basis for 40 hours a week upto a max of two years. After which they lay you off because there is a rule which says you have to hire a person as a permanent employee if he/she has been working at your place for 2+ years.

Even if there was 100% compliance it would not change the nature of the Job which is very physical in nature.

To the original poster, go to the local wholesale / warhouse area in your town/city and that is basically the nature of work that labor jobs have here or for that matter anywhere in the world. If you live in Delhi go to Sadar Bazaar or azadpur sabzi mandi:D and you will know. reminder that i am talking about the job and not about compliance to rules. The actual act.

The work revolves around 3 - 8 hour shifts.
7 am - 3:15 pm
3:15 pm - 11:30 pm
11:30 pm to 7:00 am.

Sometimes companies have just 2 shitfs. My company is going to change it into 2 shifts of 10 hrs duration and Just 4 days a week.

Pay varies from 8 - a max of 13 $ CDN for temp positions. If the company hires you then it will increase to 15 + and if you stay long enough to 20 - 25.

One thing is if you stay long enough at one place you are likely to be given less labor type of jobs like support (driving, supervising etc..). Which is very very easy compared to the former. That way you get 20 + / hr for doing very little work. I see people who have been hired and perm never leaving the company. they have been there for an average of 10 - 35 years:eek: .

If you need any more info do not hesitate to ask.

BTW, am I the only one on Cd who is in a labor job or maybe the only one who admits to it. Comon out Guys, you have nothing to lose. there is dignity of Labor in Canada. thats what they have me believe.:)

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