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pratickm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-01-05 00:31:15

Quote:
Orginally posted by adam917
Do you mean 'Permanent Resident card' or something else by 'PR'? If you're assumeing that I have the card, I don't. I never set foot in Canada yet.

I meant the Permanent Resident visa - a PR approval.
The card is not important because it is only needed when you travel out of the country - it is not needed to apply for a job.
If you have a PR visa approved and stamped on your passport, then all you have to do is land in Canada and start applying for jobs.


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adam917   
Member since: Oct 04
Posts: 54
Location: North America

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-01-05 15:27:45

Quote:
Orginally posted by pratickmI meant the Permanent Resident visa - a PR approval.
The card is not important because it is only needed when you travel out of the country - it is not needed to apply for a job.
If you have a PR visa approved and stamped on your passport, then all you have to do is land in Canada and start applying for jobs.


What does it take to get this visa? Any special requirements?



pratickm   
Member since: Feb 04
Posts: 2831
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-01-05 15:33:36

Quote:
Orginally posted by adam917
What does it take to get this visa? Any special requirements?

Maybe you should tell us a bit more about yourself.
While responding, I have been assuming that you have attained a PR and are now planning to land in Canada, therefore looking for jobs.

Apparently, my assumptions are wrong.

So you should tell us where you live, what is your citizenship country (that will determine whether you need a visa to come to Canada or not), why you are interested in looking for a job in Canada, and so on.

Basically, if you simply want to work here for a while, you should get a work permit, and if you want to live here long-term, then you should apply for a PR.
You can also do both - get a work permit, live and work here for a few years and then decide whether you want to apply for a PR or not.

A starting point for all these issues is the CIC website at:
http://www.cic.gc.ca


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adam917   
Member since: Oct 04
Posts: 54
Location: North America

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-01-05 18:09:36

Quote:
Orginally posted by pratickm

Quote:
Orginally posted by adam917
What does it take to get this visa? Any special requirements?

Maybe you should tell us a bit more about yourself.
While responding, I have been assuming that you have attained a PR and are now planning to land in Canada, therefore looking for jobs.

Apparently, my assumptions are wrong.

So you should tell us where you live, what is your citizenship country (that will determine whether you need a visa to come to Canada or not), why you are interested in looking for a job in Canada, and so on.

Basically, if you simply want to work here for a while, you should get a work permit, and if you want to live here long-term, then you should apply for a PR.
You can also do both - get a work permit, live and work here for a few years and then decide whether you want to apply for a PR or not.

A starting point for all these issues is the CIC website at:
http://www.cic.gc.ca


OK. I live in the US, and I was born there, so my citizenship is US as well. I guess a better question would be 'Why do I want to _live_ in Canada?', as working there is only a natural reaction (usually) to living there. I want to live there because I'm tired of the big mess that we now always face in the US thanks to the way our politics and government are. It's surely possible for another major terrorist attack to happen here soon, as the US isn't exactly liked that much these days world-wide. Crime rate has skyrocketed here as well. The US doesn't have very strict gun laws and drug crimes are always on the rise. I want to live somewhere civilised -- where you don't hear about _school shootings_ every time you turn around, as well as other similar BS that happens only in America. How many of you here moved to Canada after considering the US or how many of you moved to Canada from the US? I bet these are some of the reasons why you decided to move to Canada. Many people in the US don't see the light, which is why we still have this president today -- over half the country's divided practically 50/50 over the last election, etc. With almost 300'000'000 people, this is a high number.

Secondly, Canada, unlike the US, treats GLBT (gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgender) citizens like first-class people, not second-class. It's an open society (maybe except Alberta?) in regards to that. I may not be getting same-sex married or whatnot, but if half the US is against same-sex marriage and even this big group of people in society, I would say this country has issues to sort out. Before 2004, I have never seen people vote for a president for the fact that he puts his religious beliefs ahead of the population's in politics. Politics & religion should never mix. If so many people vote Bush just for the FMA (Federal Marriage Amendment), they obviously don't know the catastrophe he's caused in Iraq. He fueled the fire to what could be our next attack someday. :-(



pratickm   
Member since: Feb 04
Posts: 2831
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-01-05 19:15:01

I understand your frustration with the current socio-economic situation in the US.
While I am glad that you are looking for options and don't want to discourage you, but I don't want you to be under any illusions either.

Canada has its share of issues, but nowhere near the scale and severity of the US.
Big cities like Toronto and Vancouver have their fair share of crime.
We do hear everyday of shooting, etc.
Again, as compared to most big US cities like LA, Detroit, Chicago, etc. it is statistically minor.

There are economic issues as well, such as a huge dependency on the US in almost all sectors of the economy.

Just so you are aware - now onto your question.

Since you are a US citizen, you don't need a visa to come and check out Canada.
You will need to bring along your passport, of course, and some cash/traveller's cheques for expenses.

I will suggest you simply visit as a tourist for a few weeks/months and look for job opportunties.
Build some contacts before arriving and get in touch with any family or friends that you may have in Canada.

Start with the following link to learn about the requirements for working in Canada:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/index.html

Spend some time on this website and you will get answers to almost 99% of your questions about the process for a work visa.
Since you are a US citizen, you can short-circuit via the TN visa provisions under NAFTA.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pub/you-asked/section-18.html

For jobs, I will suggest get in touch with staffing agencies and headhunters directly and offer your skills and services (whichever field you are in).
You can easily travel back and forth for interviews, etc.

Feel free to post any more questions.


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adam917   
Member since: Oct 04
Posts: 54
Location: North America

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-01-05 20:08:55

Quote:
Orginally posted by pratickm

I understand your frustration with the current socio-economic situation in the US.
While I am glad that you are looking for options and don't want to discourage you, but I don't want you to be under any illusions either.

Canada has its share of issues, but nowhere near the scale and severity of the US.
Big cities like Toronto and Vancouver have their fair share of crime.
We do hear everyday of shooting, etc.
Again, as compared to most big US cities like LA, Detroit, Chicago, etc. it is statistically minor.

There are economic issues as well, such as a huge dependency on the US in almost all sectors of the economy.

Just so you are aware - now onto your question.

Since you are a US citizen, you don't need a visa to come and check out Canada.
You will need to bring along your passport, of course, and some cash/traveller's cheques for expenses.

I will suggest you simply visit as a tourist for a few weeks/months and look for job opportunties.
Build some contacts before arriving and get in touch with any family or friends that you may have in Canada.

Start with the following link to learn about the requirements for working in Canada:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/index.html

Spend some time on this website and you will get answers to almost 99% of your questions about the process for a work visa.
Since you are a US citizen, you can short-circuit via the TN visa provisions under NAFTA.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pub/you-asked/section-18.html

For jobs, I will suggest get in touch with staffing agencies and headhunters directly and offer your skills and services (whichever field you are in).
You can easily travel back and forth for interviews, etc.

Feel free to post any more questions.


Thanks very much. I know that I certainly can't be under any illusions, as I think realistically, carefully, and like to know of all possible solutions to any issues that I wish to address. Thanks for all the info.

PS: What are the names of some staffing agencies & 'headhunters' in Canada (GTA and Montreal)?



pratickm   
Member since: Feb 04
Posts: 2831
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-01-05 09:21:29

Quote:
Orginally posted by adam917
PS: What are the names of some staffing agencies & 'headhunters' in Canada (GTA and Montreal)?

You can use the Search in Charch feature on this website to look for this information.
Several members have posted dozens of recruitment and headhunting agency names in messages.
The link is on the home page after you login.

Another way is to grab their names and contact numbers out of job sites like workopolis.ca, monster.ca, dice.com and so on.
Search for jobs in your field and then copy the name of the agency posting the job if you want to approach them directly.
As you have seen, applying directly through website usually doesn't get positive responses.

There is also a huge list of Canadian job sites posted here by some members - use the Search in Charcha link to find that too.


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