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The power of Refrences in jobsearch.




knockout_Jay
Junior Desi
Member since: May 04




Posts: 24
Location: Ontario


Hi
When I got my first job in Canada, my employer checked the references from India. As I knew the importance of references, I have been providing references to my ex-staff and colleagues. I have also hired desis based on the personal references and ofcouse after the due professional interview process.

About two years ago, one of my desi colleague requested me to provide my reference to our HR for one of his friends. My colleague has been trying to get HR to consider this guy for a long time with little success. As I was in a management position, he requested me for the reference.After reviewing his resume and with the trust in my colleague, I forwarded the resume to HR. Our HR person promptly initiated the interview process. As the company he was working is a partner company, she called up their HR to do background verification. Later, she called me up to inform me that this guy is fired from his previous company for disciplinary reasons. You can imagine my embarassment. My colleague and myself were told by this guy that he was laid off as part of a restructuring effort.

Since then, I stopped providing references to anybody who did not worked with me previously. I would like to warn you not to do the same mistake. Don't provide personal or professional references to strangers as a good will gesture. There are numerous other ways to provide the help to new immigrants like the way CD members are doing.

Regards,
Jay


 
Post ID: 27224 01-10-04 00:54:37
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jwagh
Desi
Member since: Apr 04




Posts: 64
Location: pune india


hi,

What happens if the reference provided by me e.g my former boss himself has moved to another organisation and no longer a part of the organisation which has been indicated in my resume?

Regards,
jwagh


 
Post ID: 27460 03-10-04 09:19:15
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ayaskant
Senior Desi
Member since: Jun 04




Posts: 177
Location: Mississauga

former boss's movement to a new Organisation
jwagh,

I do not really see any problem in your former boss's movement to a new Organisation. As long as he gives a good reference about you, and it can be proved that he was your formar boss, in your previous organisation, it should work out fine.

Let's look at it this way. In the real world, every individual seeks change at some point in time, whatever his position may be. So, its perfectly acceptable if a former boss is in a new Organisation. Your prospective employers accept the fact, and still talk to him for your reference check.

:cheers:

Ayaskant.



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Orginally posted by jwagh

hi,

What happens if the reference provided by me e.g my former boss himself has moved to another organisation and no longer a part of the organisation which has been indicated in my resume?

Regards,
jwagh


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Post ID: 27521 04-10-04 06:26:33
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jwagh
Desi
Member since: Apr 04




Posts: 64
Location: pune india


Hi,

Thanks ,Ayaskant for the reply.

I was myself contemplating about gathering references from my former bosses here , but was not very sure if the references in India would make any sense to the canadian bosses ( canadian company HR dept) who are fussy about the canadian experience for an immigrant !!of all the things.

Now i will start contacting my former bosses and seeking references

Regards,

jwagh


 
Post ID: 27622 05-10-04 07:09:43
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chandresh
Senior Desi
Member since: Mar 03




Posts: 2604
Location: Toronto


As far as I know, written references from your former employers (overseas) are not of any use. What they do is, get the contact details of your former employers (phone/e-mail/address) and then contact directly with their own set of questions.

However, it is always good to have letters from your former employers - more so if the boss you reported to has moved and is not easily traceable.

Chandresh

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Post ID: 27626 05-10-04 08:15:10
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ayaskant
Senior Desi
Member since: Jun 04




Posts: 177
Location: Mississauga

Reference Check
jwagh,

Usually reference check is done by contacting your ex-bosses over phone, email etc, as Chandresh has pointed out.

However, the letters from your former bosses will definitely be useful. They would go in the recommendation letter category, which could be used by you to impress prospective employers in the final stages of your recruitment.

:cheers:

Ayaskant.






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Orginally posted by chandresh

As far as I know, written references from your former employers (overseas) are not of any use. What they do is, get the contact details of your former employers (phone/e-mail/address) and then contact directly with their own set of questions.

However, it is always good to have letters from your former employers - more so if the boss you reported to has moved and is not easily traceable.

Chandresh


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Success

To laugh often and much;
To win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children;
To earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends;
To appreciate beauty, to find the best in others;
To leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition;
To know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived.
This is to have succeeded. Bessie Stanley

 
Post ID: 27738 06-10-04 06:17:23
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knockout_Jay
Junior Desi
Member since: May 04




Posts: 24
Location: Ontario

Reference Check
Hi
I just would like to point out that written references from your former manager is always helpful,no matter, where he/she is now. As the companies in North Americal got more educated themselves about the scams of references in our countries,they are more picky about checking physical references via phone. When I came to Canada, I submitted reference letters from my previous employers and on top of that I have provided the contact numbers of my last employers in India. They actually did call my last employers (GM India and Aravind Mills etc), where I implemented the software solution. Finally, when I went for the personal interview, I saw all those reference files on the desk. From my experience and from what now I demand my self as an employer, every reference helps in establishing the basic credibility. Only note of caution is that you must provide references of people who are actually available to do so. We do ask for the convenient times to call.
Regards,
Jay
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Orginally posted by chandresh

As far as I know, written references from your former employers (overseas) are not of any use. What they do is, get the contact details of your former employers (phone/e-mail/address) and then contact directly with their own set of questions.

However, it is always good to have letters from your former employers - more so if the boss you reported to has moved and is not easily traceable.

Chandresh



 
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