Dual citizen US/Canada daughter denouncing US citizenship


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deewar25   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-06-17 21:30:19

Hi there - with the realization that my daughter is turning 18 and to the point in earnings that taxes would need to be filed, generally what is the cheapest, easiest route to denounce her US citizenship? (she was born in US while we worked down there), lived in Canada since she was 1. She has no interest in maintaining US. I know when the 2014 laws came in place, it was a chaotic process with long waits - does that still apply? I have to assume cost is bottom levels for daughter (this year would be first that she has enough wages to file) and she does also have RESP's which apparently are taxable.

Must we go through immigration lawyer? Is it best to get one to make sure they don't come after her some 20 years down the road with a weird tax loophole or something, or is the 18 year old declaration much more simple and just a matter of going into embassy? Consulate? etc

Where is closest for Victoria? Do we have to go to Vancouver?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated as birthday is coming real quick and I know we need to get going on this!

thx much



icame   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-06-17 01:25:49

1. Canadian taxation is based on residency.

2. USA taxation is based on US citizenship or even green card holder status.

US will tax your world wide income, no matter where you live or where you earn your income.

Even if you don't earn a penny from US and don't set your foot in US again, US IRS will come after you to file returns and for taxation purposes, once you are a US citizen or GC holder.

They are quite powerful, and no country wants to mess with them.

So sooner you give it up, the better it is.


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Full House   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-06-17 03:30:06


A few will die to obtain U.S.Citizenship and for a few it is a Bane. You have already made up your mind and hence there is no use in holding on to it. More over I can see the doubts and the pains it might bring in at a later date, which it can and no one can question a powerful Government that bullies their own Citizens. Even that surely will cost some money and if that is of no concern, then, do it as soon as you can.

Good Luck.

FH.

Some thing to read on it and if you have a few hours at your disposal join them on a day that they hold a free seminar.

http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/u-s-tax-laws-politics-pushing-more-dual-citizens-to-renounce-citizenship



deewar25   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-06-17 15:15:07

thanks for replies - yeah, pretty sure mind is made up, guess the bigger question is 'how'? Do you have to go through a lawyer or is it simple to just walk into consulate and denouce there? Is that Vancouver?



icame   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-06-17 15:47:41

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Originally posted by deewar25

thanks for replies - yeah, pretty sure mind is made up, guess the bigger question is 'how'? Do you have to go through a lawyer or is it simple to just walk into consulate and denouce there? Is that Vancouver?



Walking to a consulate and doing it is enough. No need for a lawyer. But certain steps need to be followed, See below.

http://www.renunciationguide.com/expatriation-process/renunciation-step-by-step/

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/renunciation-of-citizenship.html

B. ELEMENTS OF RENUNCIATION

A person wishing to renounce his or her U.S. citizenship must voluntarily and with intent to relinquish U.S. citizenship:

1. Appear in person before a U.S. consular or diplomatic officer,
2. In a foreign country at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate; and
3. Sign an oath of renunciation


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icame   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-06-17 16:02:11

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Originally posted by deewar25

thanks for replies - yeah, pretty sure mind is made up, guess the bigger question is 'how'? Do you have to go through a lawyer or is it simple to just walk into consulate and denouce there? Is that Vancouver?



You can go to ANY of the places listed below in Canada :

https://ca.usembassy.gov/embassy-consulates/

If you live in Vancouver, then this is the most convenient.

U.S. Consulate General in Vancouver

1075 West Pender Street
Vancouver, British Columbia
V6E 2M6
Phone: 604-685-4311
Emergency Phone: 604-685-4311
Fax: 604-685-7175


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deewar25   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-06-17 18:22:10

helpful - thanks much! Doesn't sound as crazy a process as I was expecting.



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