febpreet   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 27-10-15 13:07:32

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But what are your comments on the OP ... I think I did not see any ...



He's busy with this news:

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/govt-to-set-up-vaidik-education-board-says-ramdev/



Garvo Gujarati   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 01-11-15 10:22:06


Whatever he does, it must be consistent. In case of others, such as Tomar and Bharti, he defended them till end, no matter whatever solid reasons were given, not only that he accused BJP for manipulating things. The law however has taken place and those guys are behind the bars/under court watch.

This one example can't make him good. On surface it seems like this is a noble act, but he has to accuse himself. Why there are so many culprits happening to be in the party that came into power to oppose corruption. Why he is not capable to know what is the background of those people. He can as that hey I am not police. He is definitely not, then why he is accusing others without any proofs?

Also the whole act of publicizing his own MLA's wrong doing in a press conference itself is funny - like a mother announcing by going to nukkad - hey mera baccha chor hai!, but I am not taking it lightly. He is a very rugged person and does everything with purpose. And see the results. The followers are clapping!

Given the number of U-Turns and now by supporting other politicians of this country (excluding Congress and BJP), his aims are becoming very clear now. To become a front runner against Modi. And to do so he will not hesitate take support of Lalu, Mayavati, Jaylalitha and others - the most corrupt politicians of this country. Do you remember any of his statements against any of them by Kejeriwal?


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san-hugo   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 02-11-15 19:06:17

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Originally posted by Garvo Gujarati


Also the whole act of publicizing his own MLA's wrong doing in a press conference itself is funny - like a mother announcing by going to nukkad - hey mera baccha chor hai!, but I am not taking it lightly. He is a very rugged person and does everything with purpose. And see the results. The followers are clapping!





Followers are clapping because the act is worth clapping , in-fact worth standing ovation. Question is GG ji , why are'nt you clapping ? cat got to the hands ?

To your analogy of 'mera bachcha chor hai' , In all those nukkads people kept discussing for years , that India ka kuch nahi hoga, politicians are corrupt , selfish, selling our country etc vagerrah. Then there was a brilliant thought by some one which we all recited. "it starts from home, we have to change ourselves first , khud ko badlo desh apney aap badlege" right ? you must have appreciated that thought for sure. ... and here you are blaming the same mother who came forward against her own rogue son and helped stripping him. He is doing exactly what people wanted for years. Not acceptable now ?
For all your love for Modi, you are forgetting to distinguish between wrongs and rights.

Kejriwal is no hero, he made mistakes in case of Tomer , Bharti and may be some more places. So do not see this act of his in light of his history or he being Modi's enemy (ofcourse!). Se this act in isolation and comment , is this worth doing and should other parties follow suit ? Do you, as born Indian, crave for such acts from politicians ?



hchheda   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-11-15 17:48:28

The root cause of this problem is with the founding principles of the AAP - 'none'.

Should the party president and officer bearers check the credentials of the applicants before nominating them for election seats and for office? - definitely.
Was it done by this party? - highly unlikely.
Should the corrupt be punished? - definitely
Should any minister be sacked just on basis of allegations? - NEVER.
Not just the chief minister, even the CEO of a small 10 member organisation should NEVER humiliate their team member in public - period.

Even in isolation this is a cowardish act, not worthy of a leader - if he aspires to be a good one. Ever seen any TATA or INFOSYS employee being shunted out publicly? How would it effect Murthy and Ratan TATA's public profile?

All I can see that our local residents in India are only interested in Nautanki and the politicians know this and serve all these various nautanki to keep them distracted from real issues. Some sit on dharna, others play the patriotism card, few on eating habits and most of them play the religion/secular blame game - doesnt matter which side of the fence they are. Add to this the constant fight for TRPs by the millions of new reporters and 'cooking' their own half baked stories to be in the limelight.

God bless India and the Indians...

Hiren



san-hugo   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-11-15 20:54:20


Hiren ,

I suggest you should not take all the leafs from media , not everything projected is truth. you got conned by media Sir.
The nautanki you are referring to was coined out by media, implying the minister was sacked in front of media. Actual event was a day before the minister was questioned for 2.5 hrs, shown proofs and after unsatisfactory answers was asked to resign which he did. Next day , in press conference his resignation and reason was announced. It was not pure allegation, there was process followed.
Same was the process of sacking of Jaswant Singh by BJP and recently Akhilesh Yadav sacked 8 ministers and conveyed it during press conference.

But the point here is not how it was done . The point is it was done, it is a welcoming event in Indian Politics. No other party has shown such guts.

Please do not compare dealing of private companies with one in public life. It is different.

Btw, founding principles of AAP - is Swaraj . and there is a book.. books on Swaraj.





hchheda   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-11-15 23:16:37

Please watch the video here:
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/arvind-kejriwal-sacks-delhi-minister-for-food-and-civil-supplies-asim-ahmed-khan-orders-cbi-probe-on-corruption-charges./1/494575.html.

He is clearly talking of having discussed all night and that they are planning to sack him while he is addressing the media...

Anyways, the principles of AAP the book swaraj was also someone else's document which he published as his own.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/city/plagiarism-case-filed-against-kejriwal.html

Despite all this, running an organisation whether public or private needs to follow some basic ground rules which are totally absent in AAP. The only rule they follow is whatever pleases AK. Those who question/show dissent are shown the door.

At the very beginning when this party was formed I had commented that no party/organisation can be developed/run in the way AAP is working - it is being setup to fail and they make decisions based on whims and wishes of a select few.

Don't get me wrong - I am very keen to see a very robust political party who can challenge the big 2 at a national level based on modern, constructive and progressive agenda - AAP and AK disappoint in that criteria. India today needs an out of the box thinking leader who can influence change without getting bogged down by the obstacles.

Hiren



Garvo Gujarati   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-11-15 09:08:40


There is absolutely nothing in Kejeriwal that has impressed me. Let him do a 'single good' thing before clapping. The list of disgusting things he has done are endless. One can label them as mistakes and forget, but hey, that is not going to change who he is. He is a characterless politician who can do anything to keep in power, Including support to Congress and Lalu in the Bihar Government.

The one discussed here is mere a joke, a publicity stunt and to make fool of the followers.


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