Improving your English language skills......
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Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl
btw: i'm still sucks after so many years but not shy to stand in front of crowd with whatever strength i have
When I first moved to Canada, I could not understand half the words coming out of the mouths of locals. This in spite of the fact that I grew up watching Hollywood movies. Over a period of time I could understand the accent, even strong local accent(even Newfie accent). I have now become more confident and can even handle an audience.
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Originally posted by Full House
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So, I will let others that he believes in to be the one to provide guidance to enhance his abilities in writing and with the grammar associated with his requirements in furthering of the subject matter. The faith in a poster is the most important factor that is needed to coach or tutor an individual who is desirous of learning through them.
FH.
I should have included you as well. Yours posts are filled with tons of information and yet very readable. Both, Dimple2001 and you can present important information without leaving much scope for confusion. That is a talent not everybody possesses.
Besides, you have the best taste in music on this board. I would love to read more on your music reviews.
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Originally posted by dimple2001
That being said, it is almost impossible to learn all the rules of grammar, especially, when rules vary from region to region. For example, the use of comma within a quote (see above for "sucks," ) is limited to US English. The British use the comma outside of the quote. I learned this quirky rule from a grammar expert out of the Boston area.
Tell me about it. To make matters worse, Canada follows a hybrid version of British and US English. So, the generic Canadian English is basically British English spoken in Midwestern accent, although there are many words that are similar to American English and some typically Canadian in usage like the word "eh?" .
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Originally posted by dimple2001
A good way to fine tune the writing skills is to write more and more. Over time, it gets better, especially, for individuals such as you who is consciously aware of your writing.
Yes, in fact I now write down interesting use of phrases that I come across in my reading, so that I can internalize them better. Unfortunately, I read mostly non-fiction, so the writing style I come across is somewhat less conversational.
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Originally posted by dimple2001
I use a software called Ginger. This particular software highlights grammar error as you write. You can then hover over the highlighted text and make the suggested correction. But do beware that this software may provide corrections that are wrong within the context you are presenting.
Thanks for the info on software. I'll check it out.
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Originally posted by Fido
E_F - I echo D2K+1 words also that your English is also correct and exhibits correct usage and all .. its nice to read your posts also ... Scope if improvement .. well that's common for all us ain't it ?
Thanks. I wish to get "blog-worthy" over a period of time.
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Originally posted by elmer fudd
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Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl
btw: i'm still sucks after so many years but not shy to stand in front of crowd with whatever strength i have
When I first moved to Canada, I could not understand half the words coming out of the mouths of locals. This in spite of the fact that I grew up watching Hollywood movies. Over a period of time I could understand the accent, even strong local accent(Newfie accent). I have now become more confident and can even handle an audience.
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Originally posted by Full House
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So, I will let others that he believes in to be the one to provide guidance to enhance his abilities in writing and with the grammar associated with his requirements in furthering of the subject matter. The faith in a poster is the most important factor that is needed to coach or tutor an individual who is desirous of learning through them.
FH.
I should have included you as well. Yours posts are filled with tons of information and yet very readable. Both, Dimple2001 and you can present important information without leaving much scope for confusion. That is a talent not everybody possesses.
Besides, you have the best taste in music on this board. I would love to hear more on your music reviews.
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Thank you E_ F, I appreciate it.
ON a LIGHTER note...
We’ll begin with a box, and the plural is boxes,
But the plural of ox should be oxen, not oxes.
Then one fowl is a goose, but two are called geese,
Yet the plural of moose should never be meese,
You may find a lone mouse or a whole nest of mice,
But the plural of house is houses, not hice.
If the plural of man is always called men,
Why shouldn’t the plural of pan be called pen?
The cow in the plural may be cows or kine,
But a bow if repeated is never called bine,
And the plural of vow is vows, never vine.
If I speak of a foot and you show me your feet,
And I give you a boot would a pair be called beet?
If one is a tooth, and a whole set are teeth,
Why shouldn’t the plural of booth be called beeth?
If the singular’s this and the plural is these,
Should the plural of kiss ever be nicknamed keese?
Then one may be that and three would be those,
Yet hat in the plural would never be hose,
And the plural of cat is cats, not cose.
We speak of a brother, and also of brethren,
But though we say mother, we never say methren,
Then the masculine pronouns are he, his and him,
But imagine the feminine she, shis and shim,
So the English, I think, you all will agree,
Is the queerest language you ever did see.
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You need to have Google Chrome browser to start with.... download it and use it for a FREE period that they will allow you to use it. If found useful and to your liking them see which edition will suffice.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/grammarly-spell-checker-g/kbfnbcaeplbcioakkpcpgfkobkghlhen?hl=en
web links. http://writing-enhancement-software-review.toptenreviews.com
Thanks again.
FH.
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Posted on: 29-06-15 15:33:03
Location: Western Hemisphere
Posted on: 29-06-15 15:33:03
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Originally posted by elmer fudd
Thanks. I wish to get "blog-worthy" over a period of time.
Blog-worthiness is a case of the chicken or egg. You have to plunge in and write blogs in order to shed the inhibition and sub-consciously improve the quality of writing, but it's always intimidating to begin the first blog due to the "what will others think of my writing" paranoia.
My suggestion, plunge in and write.
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Dimple2001
Good topic Elmer ! Professional writing will improve only with continuous and cautious effort. The gestation period of learning language(s) never ends. Though , I think, I have grown layers of thick skin against learning the professional writing. It just does not improve.
My view point is improving on English speaking is more useful than English writing.
I am learning spoken English ( and the Canadian accent ) from my 7 years old. I know people say you should teach your native language to you kids whereas for me it is a two way traffic. This way I purposefully spend time with my Son. The most impressive fact is how kids use right word in the context of sentence ( which we are not good at) and their sentences are simple. We should start from there.
By the way, we thought the learning should continue , thus we are going for our second one.. what else ? ! :-)
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Originally posted by elmer fudd
My English grammar sucks, and it doesn't reflect well in my professional life. As a kid, I found English grammar classes to be very boring. So, I never paid attention to formal rules of grammar. However, I can instinctively construct sentences (learnt through repetitive usage) without consciously invoking formal rules of grammar and can put my point across.
C'mon, you're underselling yourself. I've read some of your posts and your grammar is significantly better than what you're giving yourself credit for.
Aside from a few basic rules that were firmly embedded at a very early age, I don't much care for grammar myself and I don't think it is a worthwhile exercise to remember all the rules. I find the best approach to improve is to read a lot, experiment and iterate i.e. learn intuitively. It is kinda like learning to play the piano by ear vs. reading music and playing using sheets. There are many people who can churn out amazing tunes but can't read music. I prefer that approach as opposed to reading grammar books and although I may flunk nuances of punctuation and/or other rules, I am able to get my point across quite effectively.
One thing I am certain of is that the time investment to grow your vocabulary and fluency in both spoken and written English pays off huge dividends in North America when it comes to your career. It is a critical success factor here, especially if you are an immigrant because your proficiency despite not being a native speaker strikes people as very impressive and opens many doors.
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