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hi guys, this is my first post. i would appreciate helpful suggestions :)

I completed B.arch from India last year and im planning for a post graduate course in Canada related to my field. i have 1 year of experience, i know its not much so before i opt for the course i would like to know :

1. Can i work under an Architect for job experience? ( im not looking forward to settle in Canada at the moment, i just need job experience).

2. what are the chances that i might get a job?

3. is Architecture in demand in canada??


 
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Post ID: 219701 14-03-15 09:50:03
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tamilkuravan
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I am an Architect who working in Canada for 9 years and now in India for 4 years.
I have given my word that I will be positive from now on and hence my answer to your queries as follows :

1. You need one year experience to apply for PR (Permanent residency). Come through PR so that your fees to universities will be less.

2. yes. You can work under an Architect for job experience but no one will hire you as the field is saturated and only whites are given preference.

3. Once you do PG from a good university like Carleton or a Univ. of Toronto etc.., you may get a job. But pay will be very less when compared to people in the IT field.

4. Architecture is not in demand in Canada but the profession of Architecture is in great demand for immigration. You will get top points for that.

You cm use the Msg. option to PM me your phone number and if you need further info. I can call you. I am located in the state known as Kerala in India.

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Post ID: 219702 14-03-15 10:33:47
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job opportunities for foreign Architect
mkpr,

Please visit CACB and OAA websites. All the information is given and is comprehensive. It is hard for any immigrant to settle in most of the fields and you will start to appreciate why. The culture here is they expect you to start at the bottom and work your way up, regardless of how much foreign education and experience you may have. I know a lot of people (white & Indian) who started at the bottom, took evening & weekend courses related to building/architecture and developed their network before getting hired into higher paying positions. They have grown within a few years.
But some immigrants who came in their 40's and 50's did find it hard to assimilate into the Canadian system. I would not be this optimistic to them. But if you are younger and can bear some of this challenge, things will ease out. After spending more than 10 years in Canada, my opinion is Architecture is a good field to be in especially today. However, it is hard to become an architect or call yourself an Architect because of legal constrains in certification and liability issues. It is some what of a pure science where they don't need a lot of people in front of computer/desk trying to design a building in an office. But this country needs a lot of more people who would be able to interpret drawings, do cost analysis, understand building science, building codes, manage projects and be able to supervise, coordinate & finish projects on time and budget. And a person with Architectural back ground is well suited to be able to do such things. Also the possibility of starting your own home design business (don't have to be an architect) or construction/renovation/restoration business cannot be ignored.
All the best.


 
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thank you :) your replies were helpful

 
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There are few things you should keep in your mind while jumping into Canadian Job market. Soft skills play very important role so spend first few weeks/months on learning/polishing them. Another point is to keep your options open location wise as well as role wise. Be ready to start from any level of your field. I would say, even keep your option open to modify/change you career/field/domain. When I landed here, I was in engineering domain but most of the manufacturing/engineering jobs were already outsourced so in the first month itself, I understood that I have to change my career. I spent around a month to study the prospects of other careers and finalized top three to take a plunge. I picked the career which was 180 degree apart but I would like to give you an example of my known person, who was an architecture graduate from Delhi University and came almost the same time I came, with few years of working experience. In the first few months, he also understood that architecture work in North America in not the same as in India. He started looking into deviating to another career with better prospects where he can re-use his technical skills. He came across the Building Maintenance Technicians profession which had a constant demand and wide scope. He waited for one year, to be eligible for the OSAP load and joined Centennial College. Thereafter, he got his first break in a rental building. After six month, he got into Ministry of Healths office building where the maintenance was given to specialized company. I think it was the same company which owns 407 ETR. The role was to see that all functions of building are in good working condition. For regular maintenance, they had 3 handymen and for any other work, they had a list of on call sub-contractors. His job was to keep an eye on all building machinery, allocate work to the handymen, prepare job orders for the external sub-contractors/technicians and prepare weekly reports for the management. The last time I met him in around 2010 and he was maintenance manager of Rogers Center, drawing 6 figures annual salary. His salary was more than an average IT guys salary so TK, dont think only IT guys make most money.

The crux of this example is that you have to be ready for the change and think beyond the box. Unless you think that you are born to be an architect and cannot do anything else, explore where can you divert your skills and where future prospects are brighter. A long time back, someone told me that an average Canadian changes career 2-3 time in life so be prepare and take it as an opportunity to explore the new domains. Be ready to come out from your comfort zone believe me, you will enjoy it later.

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thank you for your reply, pretty helpful :)

 
Post ID: 219709 15-03-15 03:51:09
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Quote:
Originally posted by mkpr

hi guys, this is my first post. i would appreciate helpful suggestions :)

I completed B.arch from India last year and im planning for a post graduate course in Canada related to my field. i have 1 year of experience, i know its not much so before i opt for the course i would like to know :

1. Can i work under an Architect for job experience? ( im not looking forward to settle in Canada at the moment, i just need job experience).

2. what are the chances that i might get a job?

3. is Architecture in demand in canada??



Your chances of working as an Architect here are next to nothing. Maybe you can do some MS over here & go into some urban planning & get a job with the city , gov etc.

But doing a regular Arch. job with some builder, construction firm etc are next to nothing. Maybe you can get some Auto CAD job or some low level drafting job. But you won't be doing much design job .


 
Post ID: 219711 15-03-15 03:58:51
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Quote:
Originally posted by Delhite

There are few things you should keep in your mind while jumping into Canadian Job market. Soft skills play very important role so spend first few weeks/months on learning/polishing them. Another point is to keep your options open location wise as well as role wise. Be ready to start from any level of your field. I would say, even keep your option open to modify/change you career/field/domain. When I landed here, I was in engineering domain but most of the manufacturing/engineering jobs were already outsourced so in the first month itself, I understood that I have to change my career. I spent around a month to study the prospects of other careers and finalized top three to take a plunge. I picked the career which was 180 degree apart but I would like to give you an example of my known person, who was an architecture graduate from Delhi University and came almost the same time I came, with few years of working experience. In the first few months, he also understood that architecture work in North America in not the same as in India. He started looking into deviating to another career with better prospects where he can re-use his technical skills. He came across the Building Maintenance Technicians profession which had a constant demand and wide scope. He waited for one year, to be eligible for the OSAP load and joined Centennial College. Thereafter, he got his first break in a rental building. After six month, he got into Ministry of Healths office building where the maintenance was given to specialized company. I think it was the same company which owns 407 ETR. The role was to see that all functions of building are in good working condition. For regular maintenance, they had 3 handymen and for any other work, they had a list of on call sub-contractors. His job was to keep an eye on all building machinery, allocate work to the handymen, prepare job orders for the external sub-contractors/technicians and prepare weekly reports for the management. The last time I met him in around 2010 and he was maintenance manager of Rogers Center, drawing 6 figures annual salary. His salary was more than an average IT guys salary so TK, dont think only IT guys make most money.

The crux of this example is that you have to be ready for the change and think beyond the box. Unless you think that you are born to be an architect and cannot do anything else, explore where can you divert your skills and where future prospects are brighter. A long time back, someone told me that an average Canadian changes career 2-3 time in life so be prepare and take it as an opportunity to explore the new domains. Be ready to come out from your comfort zone believe me, you will enjoy it later.



+1 Delhite. Good post.


 
Post ID: 219713 15-03-15 09:44:14
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Architecture is one of the toughest fields to settle in Canada. In fact even in the USA.
If you want a job try middle east. They pay well.
USA and Canada have a saturated market for architects. Canada has extremely stringent rules to even call you an architect, leave alone the privilige to practice. i know from friends as well.


If you want to do a Post Grad University program and then go back to India, that will work

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Not disputing it
my known person, who was an architecture graduate from Delhi University and came almost the same time I came, with few years of working experience. In the first few months, he also understood that architecture work in North America in not the same as in India. He started looking into deviating to another career with better prospects where he can re-use his technical skills. He came across the Building Maintenance Technicians profession which had a constant demand and wide scope. He waited for one year, to be eligible for the OSAP load and joined Centennial College. Thereafter, he got his first break in a rental building.

Not disputing it and trying to be very positive and reality should not be ignored.
It is safe to say that this is a time tested model that works in Canada (for people other than in IT and esp. professionals). I have known many people who have earned sucess in it.
Now in this age of the internet, I am sure that many people know that this is the way to go. Just want to explain to the new immigrants, the potential financial liabilty in this method.

1. You arrive in Canada. You have to pay rent, hydro, other expenses and wait for a course to start in the university.

2. Say that for one year, you do a labour job to get OSAP, get to know the Canadian culture etc..., you will be living hand to mouth. For people for whom labour jobs are hard, they may have to dip into their savings.

3. You get a 1 year or a 2 year course and you study with OSAP loan and may be a part time labour job. For that one or 2 years, you will need to dip into your savings or take from the OSAP loan.

4. You graduate. You are competing with the local born and educated people. If you have chosen a wrong course or graduate at a time of recession (as it is now), you are doomed.

5. You will have to wait till the economy recovers . So till that time, you again start working labour job hoping that the recession ends.

So if you see, if you donot choose the right path, then there are problems. When I arrived in 2002, I brought in 12,000 $ (all my 3 years savings in saudi). Att he end of 6 months (with occasional labour job), I had $ 4000 remaining which I sent to my mother in USA for her pacemaker part expenses. After that was depending on PC Financial credit card. Situation was so bad that I was filling up PC Financial credit card at all shopping centres for the box of cooking for my snacks ( I did not know about food banks and soup kitchens then). I was single and sharing a 2 bed apartment with 3 more people. My rent was around $ 350 per month and $ 200 was the apartment mess expenses. Like a fool, I was cleaning my apartment (alone) every friday as I was afraid that when I left, the landlord will bill me for cleaning expenses when I left. My other 3 roommates used to just sleep as they were content with labour jobs / gas station jobs.

Based on my experience (and only my experience), I would suggest the following :

1. COme as a Bachelor. Your chances are much better. You will not get as depresses as one whose souse is a house wife and with small children.

2. Try to get some certifications and go as a technician. So if you are a mechanical engineer, then go as a gas technician or a NDT tester etc.. If you are a elecrical engineer, try some electricity testing license etc.. That is what is in demand in Canada.

Murali

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