san-hugo   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-02-15 00:40:24

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Originally posted by dhaikin


On the other hand, this will make a strong conviction for those hardcore BJP voters, & you will see the voter turnout increase in Modi's favor, like never before..



Vice a versa for AAP voters. Its a battle of conviction and turnouts. It will depend which side of voter turnout more. One party which dented confidence of BJP and its voters after recent wins in other states and center is... AAP. agree ?



hchheda   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-02-15 09:45:02

Latest development:

In his last election rally in the capital by PM, Modiji asked in his legendary style .. "Yaad hai naa 7 Feb to kisse vote denaa hai?".. The crowd went berserk and shouted..'Aap KO!!'..

Let's wait and watch for the results to know what they really meant..

:cheers:



Blue_Peafowl   
Member since: Dec 08
Posts: 1351
Location: Brampton, Ont, Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-02-15 12:10:33

Dont u guys see the trend ?

- Cong deliberately leaving space for AAP to defeat BJP
- Mamta, nitish every one supporting kejri

everyone after BJP - people don't realize that AAP will be a big mess for India - naxals, separatist , bangladeshi all will get soft corner from AAP -

We should all worry about internal security - although i don't like congress but i support congress over AAP - at least it will not create internal security

To my knowledge : BJP will definitely win delhi by hook or crook ( unless BJP top brass has other plan to wipe them out completely by giving other chance and then break them)

lets see - I m very impress with BJP future policies - they are taking one step at a time to make India strong from both outside and inside.

PPL dont realize that we got PM Modi as gift ..

think about people mentality about india before one year and now ... We started talking positively about shining india, develop india , strong india etc... ---- it just happen without reason ? No because we got Strong PM and we all know that he will deliver.

Some people are so F....king... negative that they don't look at past and just open their mouth to complain without having patience ..

Relax guys - We need to give Modi full one term with majority - u judge him after

and i will not shy away to say - yes minority will be lil upset about Hindu agenda but thats given its BJP/RSS - so just because BJP is hindutva friendly doesnt mean it will harm minority - in fact it will put more stability in region since some fringe element will be in control so majority of minority will get peace.


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Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-02-15 12:54:59

And some people are so F.....ng positive that they judge others in different scales .

'Aapka ghar jale to aag , aur ka ghar jale to tamasha '

AAP Retards were complaining about Kejri's non performance / u turns even with less than 2 months and here I m sure after the completion of one term - they will say ' What is undone in 60 years , cannot be done in 5 years'

Where s the black money that Modi promised to everyone ? What is the progress on that ?

Do you hear anything about its progress - if yes , please post here ...

Where did Modi get the money for his campaigning ? Business houses like Ambanis / Adanis ?

Why did they give this money to Modi ? ( not for the country's but for their own benefit)

Will Modi ji not grant them those much needed favors ... ?

Not to belittle Modi ji but just to point that no one is above criticism .

And the final refrain is ' BJP will win in Delhi and if they do not , well they have lost intentionally ' ...If that were the case , why field KB as a last resort of desperation .

The fact is that it is ironical that BJP for all the majority that they have won at the centre , have to struggle in Delhi elections .... speaks a lot about their achievements and the popularity they have gained .


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febpreet   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-02-15 14:45:40

Quote:
Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl
Dont u guys see the trend ?
- Cong deliberately leaving space for AAP to defeat BJP



Did Congress really have any space left? Did it also leave any space for AAP in LS polls? If Congress was that supportive of AAP, the would've vehemently supported them when it was most warranted during 49 days' rule. Congress is finished, and better be. They know about it, and in-fact saving whatever money they have to not spend unnecessarily on the polls that they lost a long time ago.

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everyone after BJP - people don't realize that AAP will be a big mess for India - naxals, separatist , bangladeshi all will get soft corner from AAP -



Please care to explain how it will be a mess other than the 'been there done that' rant. Your logic of labeling them as Naxals and separatists is as hollow and amusing as Zaid Hamid's on India. Both are unsubstantiated and repetitive claims.

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We should all worry about internal security - although i don't like congress but i support congress over AAP - at least it will not create internal security



Congratulation for choosing Congress over AAP. Congress is now the holier than thou. Remember, 1984? Kashmir, the biggest resource hog for India since 1947 is the bane created by your 'other' choice. Can I safely say that both BJP and Congress are two sides of same coin? You proved my point.

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To my knowledge : BJP will definitely win delhi by hook or crook ( unless BJP top brass has other plan to wipe them out completely by giving other chance and then break them)



Aren't they really good at this - winning DEFINITELY by either hook or crook? You are slowly admitting to what BJP really stands for. Nothing of the sort different than the Congress.

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lets see - I m very impress with BJP future policies - they are taking one step at a time to make India strong from both outside and inside.



What are they, and how? Please enlighten us. Democracy means choices, and keeping the ruler in checks and balances. There was no effective opposition when Congress was in power, and neither it is now. Hence, AAP is quite apt in filling this vacuum. India needs it, democracy requires it.

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PPL dont realize that we got PM Modi as gift ..



Gift is what it is. You never know what comes out after the first foil of wrapper is peeled off. It's foiling (and falling) out slowly.

This reminded me of few related lines by Mary Oliver (Pulitzer winner):

"Someone I loved once gave me a box full of darkness. It took me years to understand that this too, was a gift.”

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think about people mentality about india before one year and now ... We started talking positively about shining india, develop india , strong india etc... ---- it just happen without reason ? No because we got Strong PM and we all know that he will deliver.



Just having one chatterer (you may call 'Orator') PM doesn't suffice. You need a collective strength of the entire party. Care to explain why do about 35% of BJP's MPs have criminal cases filed against them? What's the spate of corruption after they took over? What steps have they devised so far to hit corruption where it hurts the most? None, nada, zilch...

Please read any good economist report about the state of economy before and after Modi. It will open your subjective eyes.

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Some people are so F....king... negative that they don't look at past and just open their mouth to complain without having patience ..



This is called democracy. You can't take the ruling party on its face value. They get criticized, people look for other options if dissatisfied. Complain is very much a part of it. You don't like it? Retire from the politics then.

Also, what patience are you talking about? My parents have been running pillars to post to the MCD office (BJP's bastion) for the wrongly calculated House tax and for few other jobs. They have been asked for a hefty bribe openly, within the MCD corridors, which they out-rightly refused. Your own BJP failed to curb the corruption on the ground level. What patience, man? This is where the AAP hurts the BJP's pockets.

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Relax guys - We need to give Modi full one term with majority - u judge him after



He has already got it. Show a common man changes on the ground and within his/her everyday life. And, no we can't stop judging him. He made certain promises before the elections. Electorate have every damn right to expect the reforms and fulfillment every second. He will still be judged en mass after his full term though.

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and i will not shy away to say - yes minority will be lil upset about Hindu agenda but thats given its BJP/RSS - so just because BJP is hindutva friendly doesnt mean it will harm minority - in fact it will put more stability in region since some fringe element will be in control so majority of minority will get peace.



Care to explain, what is this so-called 'Hindu' agenda per se? Why not one 'National' agenda?

And, what the heck is 'Hindutva friendly'? What specifically would they do for their 'Hindu' friends? Lift them up from the poverty and feed only the 'Hindu' children of 'Hindu' parents? What about others? Sick!

Why the minority should have a reason to be upset? Would you apply the same to the minority to which you belong in Canada? Here it's a systematic discrimination, while in our esteemed desi land, it's OK if the minority are a little upset and insecure with the height of BJP sponsored fringe groups, such as RSS, Bajrang Dal, VHP, Hindu Mahasabha, etc? Tell me, O pray why these very groups can't be tamed? Dual standards, eh!

I overwhelmingly support AAP. If not in the ruling, then I don't mind them being in the opposition. We need an able and effective one for the sake of healthy democracy. In a bigger scheme of things, whether or not you like it.



febpreet   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-02-15 14:56:22

Quote:
Originally posted by dhaikin

Yes, the anti Hindu media days are numbered.



What does that even mean? Why everything has to boil down to 'Hindus, Muslims' in your esteemed BJP's rule?

Anyone that criticizes BJP or RSS is 'anti Hindu'. I must salute your very logic.



Surti   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-02-15 16:08:48

The Mid-Night Havala by Kejriwal is never discussed here, so thought to bring it here.

Some of the interesting facts:
1) All transaction were exactly Mid Night.
2) The Amount was same 50 Lakhs
3) All companies who donated are suspicious - having fake address, having no business
4) The previous AAP members have shown empty checks of same companies saying that they offer the service of paying cash and in return gives check to make black money white.

Let us once agree that it is not upto Khujli to check who their Donner are, then we have some real interesting questions
1) Why those companies are really interested in donating money to AAP? They are not showing any income on their balance sheet. Just for fun? Obviously not.
2) Let us assume that those are good and real companies. For donation Political Parties need to approach people to collect the donation. Who from Khujli's gang approached them? If the addresses are very difficult to trace today, how did they manged to get hold on them?
3) Let us assume that they are good companies and have donated money own their own, without anyone approaching them. Did they sent those money via mail? In person? Who that person was?
4) Why all transactions are at Mid Night? Those in database management can tell that any "date" entry directly into database without hours and minutes defaults to "00:00". It seems likely the case of manipulation of the system to insert these illicit entries. The law of probability to have 4 translations, from differently companies, with same amount can happen at the same time is extremely rare.

In spite of a clear case of mischievousness, Khuji in front of TV Channels bravely saying that "Arrest me, if I have done anything wrong!". All know that Khujli is a shrewd politician. But both Modi and Shah are smarter than this political joker. They can’t just go and arrest Khujli right now as the fool and blind vote banks of India don’t care if their leader is tainted or not, they just follow him/her and anything like ‘arrest’ of Khujli means mass votes to him and possible chaos in the city. Great examples are Lalu and Jaylalitha. So BJP Government will not do anything with Khujli right now.
Once the elections are over, no matter he is a CM or not, he has be careful on this as this one is definitely going to haunt him.

Whatever it is, AAP is same as other parties of India and can’t claim to be the Party that has come to clean the political system. They are in fact, making it muddier.


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