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Posted on: 11-06-15 13:51:00
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Oh yes, let's not forget another great example of AAP mindset objectivity. A law minister faking his degrees is not the issue, but police swooping in to arrest him is a massive conspiracy. Lage raho Kejribhai, you will win all the seats in the next election since Delhi loves your drama. Make sure you cough a bit more next time though
I don't think you got it ...
The irony is that (and that is being observed by the public ) that nobody in Police came to aid when Nirbhaya was being raped in a bus which crossed 6 police stations .. that there is less crime control in Delhi with rapists and murderers roaming freely and tonnes of unsolved cases ....
But when it came to arresting a Minister for his unlawful degrees , their vigilance appears to be at a very high sense ... suddenly they have become very conscious of the petty crime..... clearly reflects a political vendetta.
But the public is watching and it is the same public which brought AK to power and denounced NaMo..
And by the way Delhi is not a word ... it is crores of population who know their minds and the region better than you or I ...
It is shameful how the Center or NaMo have not been able to accept defeat in Delhi and are playing a political proxy war by transferring powers to LG stooge who in turn is calling the shots ... as against a democratically elected Govt...
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Posted on: 11-06-15 14:07:34
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Except, his wife is being cry baby and looking to gain points by bringing their personal dirty laundry openly in the media. Well, her choice, entirely. Big Boss (TV) must be eyeing on her.
Awesome - this says it all! Thanks for being so objective and fair. A woman is domestically abused and you call her a cry baby. You are a true Kejriwal supporter.
Here is video of your leader as a kid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_XyWbxGNFQ
Do you have any evidence that she was domestically abused or not or have they furnished anything to support it? Just because woman says it doesn't make it true. There are various aspects to it and no one is neither guilty nor innocent. It has to be proven, Sir. Heard about - innocent until proven guilty? What prompted her to head to Media and not resolve this between themselves as well as with the aid of whatever authority (DCW) she chose to go to. Last I heard, they have been living separately for the past 3 years. What a timing, Ms? Just complain to the DCW, file divorce and live happily ever after. Too hard to follow? But no, she wanted someone from Big Boss to notice her, and notice her big time with her antics and dirty laundry, so she could be in a limelight too. Why the separated hubby should hog it all?
If he's proven guilty of domestic violence, just take a strict action and jail bhej do usey. Why not? But, just relying on woman's statements in this day and age of equality doesn't hold any ground on the onset. Sorry, but I don't support Feminism, but equality.
Also, you got it right, I am a Kejri supporter, but not blind while at it. Let's rest it at that.
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Posted on: 11-06-15 14:16:16
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Originally posted by Fido
I don't think you got it ...
The irony is that (and that is being observed by the public ) that nobody in Police came to aid when Nirbhaya was being raped in a bus which crossed 6 police stations .. that there is less crime control in Delhi with rapists and murderers roaming freely and tonnes of unsolved cases ....
But when it came to arresting a Minister for his unlawful degrees , their vigilance appears to be at a very high sense ... suddenly they have become very conscious of the petty crime..... clearly reflects a political vendetta.
But the public is watching and it is the same public which brought AK to power and denounced NaMo..
And by the way Delhi is not a word ... it is crores of population who know their minds and the region better than you or I ...
It is shameful how the Center or NaMo have not been able to accept defeat in Delhi and are playing a political proxy war by transferring powers to LG stooge who in turn is calling the shots ... as against a democratically elected Govt...
Actually, I get it perfectly but don't think you do. First of all, a law minister faking degrees is petty crime only to you because you support the party, it is not petty crime in any other objective terms. It should also be a huge issue for a party whose MAIN agenda is anti-corruption, yet Kejriwal hasn't commented on it. Oh well, maybe he's got the cough again.
Secondly, you're in some sort of a bubble if you think that there will not be these kinds of power plays in politics between center and state when there is a conflict of interest. It has nothing to do with being upset about "losing the election", everything to do with control. Kejriwal is no better and plays the same kind of games. It is naive to think that things will work smoothly when both the state and center have their own agendas. It is the same kind of naivety that you write about the black money, expecting idealistic situations in a world that is far from ideal. Anyone who is connected to reality knows that the black money situation will be addressed slowly and things will improve, however there is absolutely zero chance that all the black money will be retrieved, regardless of what Modi or anyone else in BJP says.
You're entitled to your opinions on what you expect, just don't expect reality to align with it. I do not speak for people of India and neither does anybody else on the forum. They're watching and will react in subsequent elections based on their understanding of the situation and that's completely fine.
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Posted on: 11-06-15 14:22:07
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Do you have any evidence that she was domestically abused or not or have they furnished anything to support it? Just because woman says it doesn't make it true. There are various aspects to it and no one is neither guilty nor innocent. It has to be proven, Sir. Heard about - innocent until proven guilty? What prompted her to head to Media and not resolve this between themselves as well as with the aid of whatever authority (DCW) she chose to go to. Last I heard, they have been living separately for the past 3 years. What a timing, Ms? Just complain to the DCW, file divorce and live happily ever after. Too hard to follow? But no, she wanted someone from Big Boss to notice her, and notice her big time with her antics and dirty laundry, so she could be in a limelight too. Why the separated hubby should hog it all?
ah ok - so until he's proven guilty, you're perfectly justified to call her a cry baby on domestic abuse. Since you have all the proof that she's doing this for publicity.
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, you got it right, I am a Kejri supporter, but not blind while at it.
LOL - yes, read above for proof of that.
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Posted on: 11-06-15 14:27:39
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Secondly, you're in some sort of a bubble if you think that there will not be these kinds of power plays in politics between center and state when there is a conflict of interest. It has nothing to do with being upset about "losing the election", everything to do with control.
And control in a democracy is with the public elected Govt.. as much as I knew ... and NaMo lost the democratically held election so why use the other door now ??
Did you read this and what are your comments on this please ?? LG Najeeb Jung is a BJP / NaMo / Center stooge ...
In a shot in the arm for the AAP government, Delhi High Court on Monday termed as “suspect” the Centre's recent notification barring Delhi government's anti-corruption branch (ACB) from acting against its officers in criminal offences and held that the LG cannot act in his discretion.
The High Court noted that Lieutenant Governor of Government of National Capital Territory of Delhi (GNCTD) is bound to act upon the aid and advice of the council of ministers who are directly elected by the citizens of Delhi and the Centre's “executive fiat” siding with him is “suspect”. It observed that mandate of the people “must” be respected by the LG of GNCTD if there was no other “constitutional or legal fetter”.
BTW .. if you are not staying in a bubble of supporting NaMo and are in touch with reality , you should be able to connect the dots b/w what's happening in Delhi and the Law Minister's arrest ... Where was Delhi Police when women are raped in moving vehicles across multiple Police Stations ?? ... For you that seems to be a petty crime compared to this !!
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Posted on: 11-06-15 14:33:10
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Originally posted by BlueLobster
Secondly, you're in some sort of a bubble if you think that there will not be these kinds of power plays in politics between center and state when there is a conflict of interest. It has nothing to do with being upset about "losing the election", everything to do with control.
And control in a democracy is with the public elected Govt.. as much as I knew ... and NaMo lost the democratically held election so why use the other door now ??
Did you read this and what are your comments on this please ?? LG Najeeb Jung is a BJP / NaMo / Center stooge ...
In a shot in the arm for the AAP government, Delhi High Court on Monday termed as “suspect” the Centre's recent notification barring Delhi government's anti-corruption branch (ACB) from acting against its officers in criminal offences and held that the LG cannot act in his discretion.
The High Court noted that Lieutenant Governor of Government of National Capital Territory of Delhi (GNCTD) is bound to act upon the aid and advice of the council of ministers who are directly elected by the citizens of Delhi and the Centre's “executive fiat” siding with him is “suspect”. It observed that mandate of the people “must” be respected by the LG of GNCTD if there was no other “constitutional or legal fetter”.
I don't know all of the details nor do I care. Let the courts order the LG to retract his orders, right now it seems to be some sort of a yo-yo game with no clear winner. If AAP is standing on firm ground legally and constitutionally, their asks will prevail, simple as that. Irrespective of what Namo/BJP/LT says. What I don't agree with is Kejriwal is a innocent bystander in all of this, he's as much a player as anyone else. He wanted a fight and he's got one now.
The losers are the people of Delhi and the next election will reveal who they blame.
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Posted on: 11-06-15 14:39:12
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you're perfectly justified to call her a cry baby on domestic abuse. Since you have all the proof that she's doing this for publicity.
You read selective. Well, we all do. Not your fault.
She started it. All I am saying is, she didn't need to bring forth her dirty linens in media, and rather reported it to the concerned authorities that she rightfully did. She wanted publicity and got it. Assuming she doesn't have any selfish stake in it is just fooling oneself.
By the way, you didn't read that if SB is culprit he should be handled accordingly.