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Will the ladies derail Modi?




If the three ladies, Amma (JJ), Didi, and Behenji muster 80-90 seats between them, then they may want one of them to be the PM since neither UPA nor NDA could potentially get majority, assuming that the three ladies don’t hitch their wagon to NDA or UPA. Equations do change post election time. Since horse trading is not allowed (hopefully), Amma will try her best to stake a claim. Modi’s detractors within his party may support Amma thereby pulling the rug under him. Ladies would potentially play a big role in the next government (there is Amma’s Canteen in Tamilnadu serving subsidized food; EC has no objection since it was started before the dates were announced).

BJP needs to get 200+ seats on its own so that its alliances can make up the rest for the magic number. In south, it has to do well, along with TDP and the new Janasena party in AP. DMDK in Tamilnadu has already backing out of NDA. YSR Congress is still keeping its cards to the chest. Equations change later. Mulla Yadav and his brat son may not support Modi. Aren't they with UPA?

Whether Modi or Amma becomes PM, whether they deliver or not is irrelevant. There needs to be a change. Its time for change from CWG, Coalgate, 2G, Aadhar, etc.


 
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Post ID: 211213 19-03-14 03:39:56
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Mulla Yadav and Mayavati are neck deep in corruption so they are waiting to see the election result. If Modi will be closer to the magic number, both of them will bow down in his feet.

One thing I am not able to understand about Modi. I consider him a smart person so how come he failed to sense the direction of this election. High inflation, criminals and corrupt in politics are the main issues of this election. If Modi/BJP decided to keep distance from the criminals and corrupt, they could have to lose few seats but at the same time, it would have generated a better image in people (other than blind supporters) and at the end, BJP/Modi could have ended doing better in election tally.

Sometimes I think what is behind AAP/Arvind Kajriwal’s popularity in common people? I can relate it to the success of movie ‘Raja Hindustani’. To me, that movie was an average movie but it was a hit. The only reason behind the success of that movie was an ‘impossible dream’. Can a taxi driver marry a rich and beautiful girl in our normal life? It is a dream of most of the people to marry such girl so the director had successfully sold this subconscious dream of majority of the public and they related themselves to the movie. Similarly AK/AAP is trying to sell the dream of corruption free society and it is hitting at the right spot. There is nothing wrong in selling a dream as long as you have right intentions to bring that dream into reality. You have to dream it first to make it a reality. Now back to Modi/BJP – why they failed to project the points of corruption and criminals in this election to steal the popularity of AK/AAP? Had BJP/Modi declared that they will only field honest and clean candidates in this election, they could have taken out the wind from AAP.

UP will contribute a good number of MPs in parliament so whoever will lead in UP, will have strong position. BJP/Modi’s main agenda is ‘Progress’ and they are trying hard to sell it. Now the million dollar question is ‘Do people of UP care so much about Progress?’ I doubt on the mindset of the people of UP – when I see that historically they have chosen Mulla Yadav and Mayavati in the past. Can Modi be able to sell the dream of progress to the people of UP, who are mostly lethargic?

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If Modi/BJP decided to keep distance from the criminals and corrupt, they could have to lose few seats but at the same time, it would have generated a better image in people (other than blind supporters) and at the end, BJP/Modi could have ended doing better in election tally.

Similarly AK/AAP is trying to sell the dream of corruption free society and it is hitting at the right spot. There is nothing wrong in selling a dream as long as you have right intentions to bring that dream into reality. You have to dream it first to make it a reality. Now back to Modi/BJP – why they failed to project the points of corruption and criminals in this election to steal the popularity of AK/AAP? Had BJP/Modi declared that they will only field honest and clean candidates in this election, they could have taken out the wind from AAP.

UP will contribute a good number of MPs in parliament so whoever will lead in UP, will have strong position. BJP/Modi’s main agenda is ‘Progress’ and they are trying hard to sell it. Now the million dollar question is ‘Do people of UP care so much about Progress?’ I doubt on the mindset of the people of UP – when I see that historically they have chosen Mulla Yadav and Mayavati in the past. Can Modi be able to sell the dream of progress to the people of UP, who are mostly lethargic?



We cannot agree more.

For all the talk of 2G corruption and the skulduggery the UPA did with the JPC, BJP in Tamil Nadu was looking at the possibility of aligning with the DMK. They called it "seat sharing". Only the fact that 2G and Raja have still not faded from public memory kept the BJP away from DMK. Otherwise they seem not to be averse.

Even otherwise BJP in Tami Nadu, have electoral alliance with parties like DMDK, PMK and MDMK, which have openly supported LTTE, Prabhakaran and portrayed the killers of Rajiv Gandhi as heroes.

So much for their nationalism and patriotism.

Another point is BJP's proximity and getting favors from the super rich insulates them from the real issues of the people.

For 2014, we find in BJP there is absolutely no talk of black money, which was their main plank in 2009. LKA even conducted Rath Yathra.

Has the black money problem been solved by the BJP even while sitting in the opposition between 2009 and 2014?

As you have rightly said, AAP is the only one among the 3 contenders which really tries to touch people's problems, if not able to solve them. And this has appealed to the people.

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Originally posted by MKBLR

If the three ladies, Amma (JJ), Didi, and Behenji muster 80-90 seats between them, then they may want one of them to be the PM since neither UPA nor NDA could potentially get majority, assuming that the three ladies don’t hitch their wagon to NDA or UPA. Equations do change post election time. Since horse trading is not allowed (hopefully), Amma will try her best to stake a claim. Modi’s detractors within his party may support Amma thereby pulling the rug under him. Ladies would potentially play a big role in the next government (there is Amma’s Canteen in Tamilnadu serving subsidized food; EC has no objection since it was started before the dates were announced).

Whether Modi or Amma becomes PM, whether they deliver or not is irrelevant. There needs to be a change. Its time for change from CWG, Coalgate, 2G, Aadhar, etc.



Of the 3, Didi seem to enjoy corruption-free image and best PM candidate but her eccentricity is baffling.

Amma is an action-hero(ine) in front of TV cameras. But for her first term in the 90s, she too has no corruption charges against her. But she cannot do anything about that existing in the corridors of government offices.

Mayawati too enjoys excellent popularity as an individual politician in UP but has corruption charges against her.

One common plus point among all the 3 ladies is they do not have "family" baggage, like Mulayam, Lalu or Kalaignar.

If Modi's 200 plus comes to power and rules under the watchful eyes of the "Shakthi"group of 100, it may give the best deal for the people.



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Quote:
Originally posted by ramar2005

Quote:
Originally posted by Delhite

If Modi/BJP decided to keep distance from the criminals and corrupt, they could have to lose few seats but at the same time, it would have generated a better image in people (other than blind supporters) and at the end, BJP/Modi could have ended doing better in election tally.

Similarly AK/AAP is trying to sell the dream of corruption free society and it is hitting at the right spot. There is nothing wrong in selling a dream as long as you have right intentions to bring that dream into reality. You have to dream it first to make it a reality. Now back to Modi/BJP – why they failed to project the points of corruption and criminals in this election to steal the popularity of AK/AAP? Had BJP/Modi declared that they will only field honest and clean candidates in this election, they could have taken out the wind from AAP.

UP will contribute a good number of MPs in parliament so whoever will lead in UP, will have strong position. BJP/Modi’s main agenda is ‘Progress’ and they are trying hard to sell it. Now the million dollar question is ‘Do people of UP care so much about Progress?’ I doubt on the mindset of the people of UP – when I see that historically they have chosen Mulla Yadav and Mayavati in the past. Can Modi be able to sell the dream of progress to the people of UP, who are mostly lethargic?



We cannot agree more.

For all the talk of 2G corruption and the skulduggery the UPA did with the JPC, BJP in Tamil Nadu was looking at the possibility of aligning with the DMK. They called it "seat sharing". Only the fact that 2G and Raja have still not faded from public memory kept the BJP away from DMK. Otherwise they seem not to be averse.

Even otherwise BJP in Tami Nadu, have electoral alliance with parties like DMDK, PMK and MDMK, which have openly supported LTTE, Prabhakaran and portrayed the killers of Rajiv Gandhi as heroes.

So much for their nationalism and patriotism.

Another point is BJP's proximity and getting favors from the super rich insulates them from the real issues of the people.

For 2014, we find in BJP there is absolutely no talk of black money, which was their main plank in 2009. LKA even conducted Rath Yathra.

Has the black money problem been solved by the BJP even while sitting in the opposition between 2009 and 2014?

As you have rightly said, AAP is the only one among the 3 contenders which really tries to touch people's problems, if not able to solve them. And this has appealed to the people.



The Aaptards are typical sample of people who represent the so called English speaking elite. (Lord Macaulay ‘s legacy. Macaulay had assured British Parliament that I would turn Indians in morons who would have brown skin but their mind would be attuned to England). Then after, Maex and Lenin used the psychology to brainwash the morons to kill their brethrens(Millions were killed in revolution) and ravaged entire Eastern Europe and drove millions in to poverty and misery. Kejri, the transgender politician , is new avatar of the crooks Lenin and Marx. The Aaptards are like zombies who cannot or will not understand the real picture.

However, I do believe that Kejri might be able to prevent Modi from becoming PM but he would not be able to be PM.

Watch the following and then mastur***e.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vHipvnUh_g


 
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Welcome back
Welcome back Nightmare !
Please watch your language. CD follows a dignified language in Charcha forums.

Kindly oblige.

Murali

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Its easy to see BJP needs more seats, somehow. No wonder they got Sriramulu back to the party in Karnataka who is associated with the Reddy brothers in the mining scam. Sushma Swaraj opposed it, but was overruled. Congress has put up a weak candidate against Sriramulu in Bellary due to infighting within the party. Sriramulu could not go on his own though he started his own BSR party.

I think its time Advaniji retire. He's 87. What else he wants? Since he is a sure winner from Gandhinagar, BJP gave him the ticket. Aren't there younger candidates in BJP who can win? If u see the list, many are 60+. Yeddy is 72. All these oldies never had a vision for the country. Their vision is only for themselves. Its not only BJP, its Congress too has the same issue despite the prince shouting that youth should get the opportunity.


 
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Welcome back Nightmare !
Please watch your language. CD follows a dignified language in Charcha forums.

Kindly oblige.

Murali



Thanks very much for your moderation.

As one among the faceless 1.3 billion, only yearning that something good happens for the country.

But it seems to be only going from bad to worse.

Though not born in 50s, surely understand that it was decade of euphoria after getting Freedom. It was also an age of innocence where people were not after money. People pursued excellence whether at work or in studies.

Things started changing slowly from late 60s, when corruption started set everywhere and inefficiency came to be accepted. As school going and college student did expect our leaders to be more responsible and thought things may change.

It never did and my children too had gone through the same, probably worse.
As things stand it may become only worst during my grandchildren generation.

We are not for any "ism", neither capitalism or communism. Just because Soviet Union failed the West need not gloat. They too have only more lethal model as far as human civilization is concerned.

At least people like AK assume ownership for whatever is happening and try to swim against the current even if they may not be successful.

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Quote:
Originally posted by Nightmare

The Aaptards are typical sample of people who represent the so called English speaking elite. (Lord Macaulay ‘s legacy. Macaulay had assured British Parliament that I would turn Indians in morons who would have brown skin but their mind would be attuned to England). Then after, Maex and Lenin used the psychology to brainwash the morons to kill their brethrens(Millions were killed in revolution) and ravaged entire Eastern Europe and drove millions in to poverty and misery. Kejri, the transgender politician , is new avatar of the crooks Lenin and Marx. The Aaptards are like zombies who cannot or will not understand the real picture.

However, I do believe that Kejri might be able to prevent Modi from becoming PM but he would not be able to be PM.

Watch the following and then mastur***e.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vHipvnUh_g




Welcome back - to your usual tactics!


 
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After Yedurappa and Sriramulu, now Muthalik is in. Seems like this NaMoona will derail himself....oops.


A would be Cultural Minister - Muthalik's activites - http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/Muthalik\'s+top+goon+operates+from+within+Karnataka's+toughest+jail/1/97446.html " target="_blank"> http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/Muthalik\'s+top+goon+operates+from+within+Karnataka's+toughest+jail/1/97446.html

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