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Should Delhi Police be under Delhi Government?




Fido
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Only one? How long will you keep pushing the agenda? He is not the only IITian who has joined politics, he is not the only IITian who is a chief minister.

And he has adopted to the posher life than earlier. Wake up, Sid!



Please name a few others as well other than the one mentioned .... It would certainly update my knowledge

Sleeping on the road , in freezing tempratures and in rain & getting sick is not my idea of a posh life style .... may be it is yours ...Do you have any idea what Income Tax Commissioner's life is in India ???



When you have some time read about Manik Sarkar, chief minister of Tripura.
Maintained a low profile throughout his political career. You can achieve your goals without these show offs. Period



Honestly if yellow is beautiful there s no reason orange is not ...... You believe in no show offs and lets say I do ..... If we both achieve the same goal neither is wrong , both are correct .....

It is good that we have had efficient state administrators / CMs / Governors ... well whats the reason why we are against Arvind Kejariwal ??

a. Is he corrupt ? I don't think so other wise those who are after him would have downed him by now ..

b. Is he incapable ... Given his back ground ( IIT + IRS .. I m still waiting for Surti to provide me similar combos ... IIT + IAS /IFS / IRS kinds ) he is surely not incapable ...

c. Is he not working towards the right directions / objectives ?

d.. Does he not enjoy the public mandate ... he does ...

OK so what he is a show off , so what he is a vocal leader , so what if he does dharnas .... there are nothing wrong with these traits .....He is heading in the correct direction ....Where s the period ??

So what's wrong with the other parties and why are they criticizing him -- I will tell you why ...

1. Congress is doomed due to its mis deeds and corruption ...If Pappu could not win from UP itself , the country itself is out of question.

2. BJP is a very likely party to form Govt at the center this time and NaMo the strongest contender for the PM s post till November last when AAP s victory in Delhi came as a spoiler alert --- if AAP does not win the election , it surely spoils the chances of BJP's majority as seen in Delhi ....

That s why he is a thorn for every one ...and every one wants to pull him down .... but for concerned citizens who feel that he is a good leader for them and a good candidate for the post .... BJP ians would never like him for the aforementioned reason as it may affect their strategy but that does not mean we malign him.

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Honestly if yellow is beautiful there s no reason orange is not ...... You believe in no show offs and lets say I do ..... If we both achieve the same goal neither is wrong , both are correct .....

It is good that we have had efficient state administrators / CMs / Governors ... well whats the reason why we are against Arvind Kejariwal ??

a. Is he corrupt ? I don't think so other wise those who are after him would have downed him by now ..

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Lol! so now you do the "think" part and we do "yes, sir" part.
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b. Is he incapable ... Given his back ground ( IIT + IRS .. I m still waiting for Surti to provide me similar combos ... IIT + IAS /IFS / IRS kinds ) he is surely not incapable ...
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What a stupid and outrageous argument! If educational qualifications were to be criteria, then the guy who got Gold Medal when Kejri clown passed the test should be the CM.

Bush : Graduate Yale University in 1968 and Harvard Business School in 1975

Nixon : Duke University School of Law in 1937

And here is the most successful Presidents in recent history, Ronal Reagan : Reagan was educated at Eureka College, earning a Bachelor of Arts degree in economics and sociology
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c. Is he not working towards the right directions / objectives ?

Lol! You mean left, right?. Ganchi Ka bael bhi 50 KM chalke vohi jagah pe aake Khada hota hai. Kejri is Ganchi's bael. Indian economy would be standstill after his tenure, if not worse.
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d.. Does he not enjoy the public mandate ... he does ...

Lol! Seems you are "punch Drunk". The man who can write such a fluent English perhaps cannot count. His mandate was to sit in opposition. Get a life, moron
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OK so what he is a show off , so what he is a vocal leader , so what if he does dharnas .... there are nothing wrong with these traits .....He is heading in the correct direction ....Where s the period ??

So what's wrong with the other parties and why are they criticizing him -- I will tell you why ...

1. Congress is doomed due to its mis deeds and corruption ...If Pappu could not win from UP itself , the country itself is out of question.

2. BJP is a very likely party to form Govt at the center this time and NaMo the strongest contender for the PM s post till November last when AAP s victory in Delhi came as a spoiler alert --- if AAP does not win the election , it surely spoils the chances of BJP's majority as seen in Delhi ....

That s why he is a thorn for every one ...and every one wants to pull him down .... but for concerned citizens who feel that he is a good leader for them and a good candidate for the post .... BJP ians would never like him for the aforementioned reason as it may affect their strategy but that does not mean we malign him.



 
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For those who want due dilegence on AK, here is an article that appeared on The Hindu.

On the flipside BJP and Modi can't afford to sit back, relax or cry foul (which precisely what they are doing now) on what AAP and AK are doing. For AAP and AK are drawing fuel for their run on people's discontent on how things are happening in their day to day life.

When people want cure, they really want it.

They are not bothered if it is Dr. Harshavardhan or some other quack on the streets of Delhi, who can provide the cure.

Understanding Arvind Kejriwal

S. Pushpavanam
(The writer is secretary of the Consumer Protection Council, Tamil Nadu, and is based in Tiruchirapalli.) s.pushpavanamconsumerpc
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-openpage/understanding-arvind-kejriwal/

Strange things without any rational basis can happen in a nation of 128 crore people. Now, Arvind Kejriwal is projected as an “honest and different politician” who fights evil. Only when the electronic media calm down will his real face emerge.

Consider how he got out of government service. While serving as a Joint Commissioner in the Revenue Department (Income Tax) under the Finance Ministry, he went on a sabbatical (paid leave) from November 1, 2000 to October 31, 2002, and went abroad. One condition for such leave is that the employee must serve continuously for at least three years after return, failing which he or she must pay back the salary he drew over two years with penalty.

There is a bond to be executed, with witnesses and guarantors. Mr. Kejriwal re-joined duty on November 1, 2002 but at once went on 18 months’ leave without pay: he did not serve continuously. He resigned in February 2006. As he had jumped bond, his resignation was not accepted.

The Income Tax Department sent him a notice in 2007 and again in 2008 asking him to pay up. Mr. Kejriwal, who was by then appearing on TV almost every day, expected the government to budge. He said the government could deduct the dues from his retirement benefits; as he had done no wrong, his dues must be waived. After sending a notice on August 5, the department sent another in September asking him to pay up before October 27, 2011 — failing which he would not be relieved and he would not get his retirement benefits.

Attachment of his property and criminal action could follow. Mr. Kejriwal termed it an attempt to create obstacles to his agitation against corruption. When he did not respond by October 27, the department asked his guarantors to pay. Mr. Kejriwal pleaded his friends should not be disturbed. When it became clear the government would initiate proceedings, he announced on October 30, 2011 that he would borrow from his friends and pay the dues of Rs.9.28 lakh. He wrote to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on November 3, 2011 enclosing the cheque.

Certain things tend to be forgotten amid the din. An impression has been created that the Aam Aadmi Party enjoys the support of 2.2 crore Delhiites. It got only 29 per cent of the votes. That means 71 per cent of voters rejected it.

The AAP laid 18 conditions to get Congress support, some of them mere administrative actions like removing red beacons from vehicles. He said he had written to the BJP and the Congress on these, and once he got replies he would go to the people and ask them what to do. However, the Congress did not accept the conditions. Yet, the AAP formed the government with Congress support.

It is doubtful whether the schemes announced by AAP can be implemented. The Delhi government has a deficit of Rs.1,725 crore. After announcing a 50 per cent reduction in power tariff, he announced it was only under consideration. He had asked people not to pay power bills. Many did not, and faced power theft cases. If Mr. Kejriwal withdraws the cases that would be a bad precedent; no court will permit that. If he does not, his followers will feel victimised. While he promised 700 litres of water per capita, residents in many areas now beg for at least 20 litres. Only 68 per cent of households have piped water supply.

Mr. Kejriwal is known for his sensational announcements. During a first round of fasting action, he said he would expose corruption by 15 Union Ministers. In December 2013 he said he had proof to show five Ministers had Swiss bank accounts. He said in November 2012 the Central government had a list of 700 Indians who had stashed money in HSBC Bank in Geneva, and demanded that foreign banks give all the names to the government; he asked HSBC Bank’s staff members in India to resign.

The most popular of his stunts was restoring power connections severed for non-payment as he felt the tariff was high. As cameramen clicked away, with a pair of cutting pliers he connected the wires on June 27, 2013. Although it was an offence under the Electricity Act, the electricity authorities did not act fearing his TV-based backing. He chose to take law into his hands, sending a message that he did not believe in a democratic way of functioning. This is in tune with his other activities like offering dharna in front of the Prime Minister’s house, violating orders under Section 144.

What Mr. Kejriwal has done, has been done by so many other politicians. Prashant Bhushan of the AAP wanted a referendum held in Kashmir to determine people’s opinion on the presence of the Army. Mr. Kejriwal said it was Mr. Bhushan’s personal opinion but the consent of local citizens must be ascertained. But there is no difference between a referendum and getting people’s consent. On January 12, Mr. Bhushan said the police must be withdrawn from Naxalite-hit areas.

Mr. Kejriwal is yet another politician who has resorted to politics as his last refuge. I wonder if Meera Sanyal, V. Balakrishnan and Captain Gopinath have done their due diligence before joining the AAP.

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Guys, we are discussing a topic of Delhi Governance and should the Delhi Police be under Delhi Government. Can we get back to the topic? Please..

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Fido
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Get a life, moron



NM - I can respond with some better expletives you can imagine but that is not my habit and is against the forum rules ....

For the same reason NM , I shall pass / ignore your posts & if you continue thus , I m sure other CDs will do that as well , which might signal you to mind your language.

Mods - please make a note of name calling and if deemed correct , a warning may be issued to the poster ....

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Guys, we are discussing a topic of Delhi Governance and should the Delhi Police be under Delhi Government. Can we get back to the topic? Please..



How can you discuss the topic of Delhi Govt, without AAP - the governing party, Sir? Please enlighten us.


 
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When the thread turn out to be showing the superiority of Kejri Clown, it is not a discussion on effectiveness of Delhi Government. If you are not capable of understanding the topic of discussion what can I do, Sir?

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What can be done if there are more AAP supporters than anyone else on the board? How can you counter if we don't find any fault with Kejri 'Clown'.

Please ask/appeal others, if they could persistently sing praises in favour of the beloved Modi in the same proportion as Kejri's.


 
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This Kejri clown happens to be the Chief Minister of Delhi Govt. Any discussion involving efficacy of the Delhi Govt shall involve the Govt. constituents ... especially when the Delhi Govt. is protesting against Delhi Police.

That s kind a funny - there s another thread which shows inferiority of the Kejri .. that is not being moderated ...

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You are again de-railing the topic. I am not stopping you to keep praising the joker, you can do that by creating a new thread, but if you look at last few posts on this thread, none talks about the original intent of this thread.

Please contribute positively.

Regarding praising Modi, I don't have to do it explicitly - the entire world is doing it, so it is kind of a Mute point for me.



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