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Should Delhi Police be under Delhi Government?




Fido
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Those messages spread across the world and so it does impact India's image.



India's image -- is it not impacted when the news of rapes in Delhi are flashed across International newspapers ??? ..

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Post ID: 209607 21-01-14 11:57:51
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But all cities have governance of local Police be it Toronto ,Ottawa or Mumbai . Because at the first line it is the local Govt's responsibility for maintaining law & order .

What AK is asking for is very valid and he is not the 1st to ask this ..it was Shiela Dixit before him who had faced the same debacle and asked for the same .

What AK is doing is great ... he & his supporters braving all the weather & other odds against them are fighting for something which is very much due to Delhites ... law and order ...

Ridiculous are the reactions of other party leaders - They are criticizing him for bad governance , anarchy and other reasons and not stating the very obvious - there is a law and order problem in Delhi and it cannot be resolved till Delhi Police comes under its governance.

I think it is a brave good move which should be supported by Delhites as it is for them he appears to be fighting for. Highlighting the de lineation between Delhi Govt & Delhi Police the general public can understand who is to blame when law & order breaks...

And what is Delhi Police / MHA doing ... preventing people from reaching the venue so that voice of the public may not be heard ...typical Congress policy ....




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Ridiculous are the reactions of other party leaders - They are criticizing him for bad governance , anarchy and other reasons and not stating the very obvious - there is a law and order problem in Delhi and it cannot be resolved till Delhi Police comes under its governance.




Most amazing part is that giving Delhi a full autonomy and bringing Delhi Police under delhi govt is in manifesto of BJP and Congress also. But so low and degraded is the attitude of these parties that they are now opposing it just because Kejriwal is asking for it. Atleast this issue should have been supported from all quarters for the common goal. Rediculous how politicians take U-turns on their own goals when in opposition.


 
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I am schedule to undergo a very major surgery next Monday.



I wish you good luck for your surgery and a speedy recovery thereafter. Donít think too much about politics and just relax & recover.

Now back to the topic. I donít like to say but it is true that Delhi Police has reduced to a corrupt organization where most of the posting are sold by the top officials. Most of officials are corrupt, all the time they think about making money. Today, a law abiding common man will scare to go to police station. Inside police stations, you will find criminal roaming free, settling deals with police. If someone is honest and donít like to take money and share with higher ups, will be shifted to VIP security. Do we need this type of police organization?

Strong police reforms are required. SHOs should be responsible of crimes in their area. I believe that the local police is always well aware of all local mafias, goons and most of the organized criminal activities. Instead of eliminating, police protects and flourish them Ė for their own vested interests. It is a very strong nexus between Police, organized criminals and politicians. It is well known secret and no other political party wants to talk about it. Instead of Ďbell the catí, they try to milk it. This is a true picture of Delhi Police and I think of similar picture in neighboring states like UP and Haryana.

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Ridiculous are the reactions of other party leaders - They are criticizing him for bad governance , anarchy and other reasons and not stating the very obvious - there is a law and order problem in Delhi and it cannot be resolved till Delhi Police comes under its governance.




Most amazing part is that giving Delhi a full autonomy and bringing Delhi Police under delhi govt is in manifesto of BJP and Congress also. But so low and degraded is the attitude of these parties that they are now opposing it just because Kejriwal is asking for it. Atleast this issue should have been supported from all quarters for the common goal. Rediculous how politicians take U-turns on their own goals when in opposition.



I don't think other parties are opposing the move, what they are opposing is the approach Kejri is taking.

On the U-Turn, we now know who is the U-Turn expert!

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san-hugo
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I don't think other parties are opposing the move, what they are opposing is the approach Kejri is taking.

On the U-Turn, we now know who is the U-Turn expert!




I think they are very well opposing else they would have suggested better and effective approach and would have clearly indicated that they are with AAP om the issue but not approach. Just opposing it means being against the mandate.

Its all about will and determination to do things. Currently BJP and Congress 's only will is come to power and supporting AAP will not help that will. What is good for People is secondary for them ...and seems like that of you.


 
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There is an assembly which is suppose to pass the bill and send to central government. Have kejri at a single instant asked for it? Has he approached BJP and Congress for their support?

Instead he want instant change of law, on the road itself, in front of camera and that is what no a single wise person believing in democracy can tolerate.

I wish you could see the real agenda of Kerji - to get publicity. Honest people don't shout they simply work on making changes.

He still have an opportunity to bring the bill, if he is sincere, but I bet he will do that.

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san-hugo
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There is an assembly which is suppose to pass the bill and send to central government. Have kejri at a single instant asked for it? Has he approached BJP and Congress for their support?

Instead he want instant change of law, on the road itself, in front of camera and that is what no a single wise person believing in democracy can tolerate.

I wish you could see the real agenda of Kerji - to get publicity. Honest people don't shout they simply work on making changes.

He still have an opportunity to bring the bill, if he is sincere, but I bet he will do that.



You are suggesting old ineffective approach which never worked. and btw yes AAP went through all formal channels of writing, putting papers , pushing and prodding.

and about BJP and congress support , that will be seen in assembly. YOu should also then review backyour suggestion in this post. Btw who stops them to support now. jump the band wagon ! They will not.


 
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There is an assembly which is suppose to pass the bill and send to central government. Have kejri at a single instant asked for it? Has he approached BJP and Congress for their support?

Instead he want instant change of law, on the road itself, in front of camera and that is what no a single wise person believing in democracy can tolerate.

I wish you could see the real agenda of Kerji - to get publicity. Honest people don't shout they simply work on making changes.

He still have an opportunity to bring the bill, if he is sincere, but I bet he will do that.



So per you , Anna Hazare's approach of Dharna was wrong ?

Dharna s have been a legacy we have received from our father of nation .. to oppose things which are not justified ...So doing a Dharna cannot be wrong by any definition as long as it is peaceful ..

Regarding using alternative means is a refrain we are hearing from all BJP / Congress leaders who are feeling the waves of AK and a threat to their own existence .

If BJP / Congress had it in their manifesto , why did they not do anything about it till now ? Why are they shouting hoarse at AK -- simply because DP has been a corrupt organization assisted and controlled by corrupt ministers who have scratched each others' back .

AK has voiced his opposition and brought this to the highlight and knowledge of common people who are fed up with law and order situation ...

Funny thing to observe is - amongst other parties / critics they are not voicing over the law & order situation of Delhi or its inefficacy or the need of bringing DP under Delhi Govt . but the common refrain is ...... ' This yesterday's wonder boy is stealing the lime light ...Lets pull him down at any cost '

And then they start citing other ways to divert attention ... 'You know why does he not do that ... why is he doing this ' ......

Exactly what Kapil Sibal dared him to do .... Don't fight from outside , form Govt. and then fight ...He took the gauntlet and won because public wanted him to win .

I think common Indian who is fed up with a corrupt law , order and working environment is looking at AK as a messiah ...

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I wish you could see the real agenda of Kerji - to get publicity. Honest people don't shout they simply work on making changes.



And more often they get lost into nothingness not being allowed to practice honestly in a corrupt environment ...

Honesty itself cannot bring change ..It needs to be supported by boldness and publicity & strategy also .... Then alone can there be victory .... Otherwise an honest person will keep on blabbering and no one will hear ...

AK is taking the correct approach -- getting himself heard by public , which forces the other party to go on defensive if they are wrong ....

Shedding others dishonesty & corruption is a good way to let the public realize whom to vote for and bring into power .

All said and done , it sure takes a brave man to do what he s done ..I do not remember a CM going against the Centre with such boldness and against such odds .. weather included ....

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