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Should Delhi Police be under Delhi Government?




Delhi has been accorded a status of state but Delhi Police continues to be under Home Ministry .. which is a unique situation .

When law & order breaks , people blame the Govt but the Govt is helpless because the Police does not come under it or follow its directives .

This came up in the brutal rape case last years when there were huge protests and spats between Shiela Dixit and Delhi Police Commissioner supported by Congress' Home Minister SK Shinde ..

It can be an alarming situation when both the bodies ( the Govt and the Police) are controlled by 2 different political parties aiming at under mine one another .

It makes sense to bring Delhi Police under Delhi Govt. as is a norm. They do and can have other Federal Centre forces like CBI etc.

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Post ID: 209567 20-01-14 12:06:21
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Delhi Police: Not under Delhi Govt
The big question is are they under any body? Police or rather armed forces if given freedom, run amuck and indulge in excesses. We are all aware that especially police forces in India and specifically in Delhi do not do any policing job rather their role is to collect money on every day basis and feed in to their system which possibly could go up to HM. Although we have all known that Thanas have been for sale from time immemorial but it is the first time the fingers have been pointed out to the HM of India.
Delhi police has been strategically used by the Congress govt. to control other parties and their protests. Be it Ramdev, Anna or any other protest worth mentioning. We will soon see that the earlier Police Comm of Delhi will get a plum posting some where.
It is also surprising to see that these officers near their retirement, having earned millions of rupees and reached the zenith of their career are not willing to resign on moral grounds, forget about dereliction of duty. There is no fear in them that an action can result if they do not do their job. And that is why they want to provide security to Kejriwal so that they can run and do what ever they want.
Imagine a situation like what is happening in Delhi, the only course left to us is Satyagraha and that is what Kejriwal is doing. Look the whole country and all the party leaders are not even sympathetic that a woman was raped and rather defending the police officers. Really shameful and pathetic.

Unless these officers can be suspended on the spot, there will be no safety in Delhi.

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Post ID: 209568 20-01-14 13:48:47
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Quote:
Originally posted by sghosedelhi

The big question is are they under any body? Police or rather armed forces if given freedom, run amuck and indulge in excesses. We are all aware that especially police forces in India and specifically in Delhi do not do any policing job rather their role is to collect money on every day basis and feed in to their system which possibly could go up to HM. Although we have all known that Thanas have been for sale from time immemorial but it is the first time the fingers have been pointed out to the HM of India.
Delhi police has been strategically used by the Congress govt. to control other parties and their protests. Be it Ramdev, Anna or any other protest worth mentioning. We will soon see that the earlier Police Comm of Delhi will get a plum posting some where.
It is also surprising to see that these officers near their retirement, having earned millions of rupees and reached the zenith of their career are not willing to resign on moral grounds, forget about dereliction of duty. There is no fear in them that an action can result if they do not do their job. And that is why they want to provide security to Kejriwal so that they can run and do what ever they want.
Imagine a situation like what is happening in Delhi, the only course left to us is Satyagraha and that is what Kejriwal is doing. Look the whole country and all the party leaders are not even sympathetic that a woman was raped and rather defending the police officers. Really shameful and pathetic.

Unless these officers can be suspended on the spot, there will be no safety in Delhi.



Lol! Another Kejri clown. Kejri is going on Dharna for suspending 3 police officers, not for bringing police under Delhi Govt., though it certainly his demand.

Kejri, as I Have stated many times, is most ridiculous and person with dirty/porn mind. Kejri has purposely raked up the issue knowing well that he is wrong in his demand. Of course, he is extremely politically savvy guy and this is going to help him. He probably aims to be martyr (with tacit Kangress support), declare that he demitted office because of principles and get political mileage.

Kejri himself was an IRS officer. How many people did he raid on suspicion of undeclared income? How many people did he reassess on suspicion of concealment of income? Sure, he would have come across thousands of cases when he (any reasonable person) would have come to know of concealment of income and black money laundering and he could not have been able to do anything but to issue assessment with a smile (and cash in pocket, but I do not know for sure). As an ex-bureaucrat, he should know that there are rules and regulations which have to be followed, howsoever unpleasant it may be. Kejri is a goon with Topi and Muffler on the neck. Similar was the mob rule during Indira time emergency period. Then also initially the whole country cheered the mob rule as it disciplined corrupt and lazy Govt. servants and then it degenerated in criminal mob rule. Over a period of time, mobs do always degrade in goondaism. Kejri and his clowns are Naxalite goonda and hence would not mind it. Rather they are happy. However, such mob rule is always bad for society.

Anyway, his antics are going to give him tremendous popularity. Kejri is God of Morons. In any society, culture, race or religion, morons always outnumber smart guys. In that respect, I applaud Kejri tactics.


 
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This guy named Arvind Kejriwal is causing serious nightmares to many CDs or maybe they are paid trolls. Seems like they know more about AK than their own parents or children. The thread was about Delhi Police and to whom it should be answerable but you dont want to leave any thread without beating AK. Why dont you make AK responsible for this cold wave in Canada?

Mod will lock this thread too very soon.

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I also wonder why some internet trolls get so annoyed with anything AK does, is it because he stand against another elusive puppet.
If you open TOI, against any news that cast AK, there are at least 20-30 harsh comments from folks who goes on with a huge tirade and then beg to caste vote for their party. The technique they use is to occupy for 30-40 comments, so you give up what others have to say.

So cheap and sleazy these mobs are.. What to say ? After all going with many theories, AK is after all a CM of a small territory and he doesn't have enough muscle or team to spread his wings through out India, possibly few Metros, most of us know he wouldn't cause much dent to other parties then why this relentless venom spewing.

In Tamil, we say "Kudukkura Kasukku kolachuthan aganum".... some one will translate for you for sure..

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Originally posted by Delhite

This guy named Arvind Kejriwal is causing serious nightmares to many CDs or maybe they are paid trolls. Seems like they know more about AK than their own parents or children. The thread was about Delhi Police and to whom it should be answerable but you dont want to leave any thread without beating AK. Why dont you make AK responsible for this cold wave in Canada?

Mod will lock this thread too very soon.


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Post ID: 209574 20-01-14 21:27:59
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Quote:
Originally posted by Delhite

Why dont you make AK responsible for this cold wave in Canada?

Mod will lock this thread too very soon.

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That honour has gone to Rajanikant, Apparently White house has requested Rajanikant not to keep his fridge open.


 
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Nightmare - Please use your words wisely - I reiterate your harsh and sarcastic language for other posters robs your posts of any meaning that they may be having .

You are quickly coming into the wrong side of attention of CDs for your language & demeanor ... I would not wish to see a senior member as yourself being sidelined and become unpopular on CD ... Please try not being harsh ...

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Post ID: 209576 20-01-14 23:05:03
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Delhi is under Kejriwal now and to be fair to him, he should have the reins to tackle the administration. Some kind of power sharing between Center and state should be eventually developed.




Some background for the original post:

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http://www.firstpost.com/politics/delhi-live-shinde-briefs-pm-on-kejriwal-sit-in-1348359.html

There has been talk that the home minister was consulting legal experts on the issue of proceeding against Kejriwal who has made serious charges against him on money exchanging hands for transfer and posting of SHOs of Delhi Police.

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Lol!

Looks like Kejriwal is the NT Rama Rao phenomenon in fast forward. Sad, considering that he had reasonable success with RTI act and could go further with more useful contributions on similar lines.

In my soon to be divided home state AP, the late NT Rama Rao was voted in with spectacular majority against Congress. Voters had high hopes and expectations.

Like Kejriwal he was elected on the promise of good governance and also on regional pride. Then, like Kejriwal now, he became highly populist with so called anti-poverty schemes like Rs2 a kilo rice scheme(a cesspool of corruption really).

Finally his mismanagement caught up with him he resorted to drama with different costumes every week when the jig was up. Vivekananda costume this week, Jungle Jim avatar the next week(a potrayal from one of his films). So much so that he become better know as "Drama Rao" in the end.

However, unlike Kejriwal, he did have some vision in developing the state despite almost bankrupting it. Road transport, some irrigation projects etc. Besides he was a highly accomplished in his private life.

Looks like Kejriwal is the new drama queen and without even vision. I respect Anna Hazare more, even though I do not agree with his tactics to tackle corruption.

Sorry for bringing up Kejriwal in this thread, but it is merited.


 
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Upon reading comments in TOI from BJP / Congress leaders alike I felt that .... AK will be criticized if he does something and he will be if he does not do anything ...So much for being admired ... :)

But going back to the OP even in case of Shiela Dixit last year , she expressed her helplessness and did try to bring the fact to public's notice that law and order in Delhi was not under her authority although she was accountable for it ..... which is clearly not fair ...

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Quote:
Originally posted by Fido

Nightmare - Please use your words wisely - I reiterate your harsh and sarcastic language for other posters robs your posts of any meaning that they may be having .

You are quickly coming into the wrong side of attention of CDs for your language & demeanor ... I would not wish to see a senior member as yourself being sidelined and become unpopular on CD ... Please try not being harsh ...


Hm. I have been active since 2005. I have displeased many members with a different take on many issues like discrimination, education, religious views, economy and politics. When I have posted so many responses , I must have displeased many of the CD members at one point or other. I know that I am one of the very unpopular contributors on CD. Well, the option is either I become a yes man and join the crowd or provide my views, may be strong views.

I hope you would agree that at least my differing views spark some debate else on some of the issues; liberals suppress the voice of dissent with strategic attack and (sometimes using multiple avatars. Lol!) I have been threatened in past physical harm on at least three to four occasions. I understand the anguish and anger that I generate sometimes. Anyway, I hope that at the least I have generated some interesting discussions.

I am schedule to undergo a very major surgery next Monday. I have been told that it is a very serious surgery and there is a risk to my life too due to multiple complicated issues. I would be convalescing for at least a couple of weeks and would not be posting on this thread. Some of the CD members would certainly wish that I never come back. Lol! However, it is Gods wish. Thanks for your words of advice.


 
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