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Asking Money in the form is not corruption

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AK is asking white money from common people who support him for his party funding – not black money as BJP and Congis are taking from crony capitalists. AK’s 100% money is accounted for and clean. I feel pity on your thinking that taking white money for party work is a corruption and taking black money from foreign agencies is okay. See the latest HC order for BJP and Congis foreign funding –
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/bjp-congress-guilty-of-accepting-foreign-donations-from-vedanta-delhi-hc/article1-1201404.aspx " target="_blank"> http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/bjp-congress-guilty-of-accepting-foreign-donations-from-vedanta-delhi-hc/article1-1201404.aspx

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Giving 372 crores to Anil Ambani Power Discom when they were in power

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This is an excellent example of rumor spreading tactics of Sanghis for which they are famous for. This money was given to Discom to provide relief in electricity bills, to consumers, which are inflated by these Discom and who’s investigation is pending.

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Taking money for Ford Foundation to dis-stablize india is not corruption

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Now ready to die with shame – the NaMoona has taken funds from Ford Foundation for his government. Please apply the same logic to NaMoona. AK has taken the fund for NGO – a long time ago when he was not in politics. NaMoona has taken the funds as a CM of state government. Do you still want to talk about it or want to hide somewhere?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/nagpur/Guj-govt-taking-Ford-Foundation-funds-is-ok/articleshow/32573211.cms " target="_blank"> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/nagpur/Guj-govt-taking-Ford-Foundation-funds-is-ok/articleshow/32573211.cms

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Not paying income tax for 9 yrs is not corruption

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Again wrong information for which you guys are proficient. His income tax was deducted at source.

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Get his transfer stopped by Sonia Gandhi not corruption

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Another example of classic rumor. Now listen to me to understand who has hands in glove with whom. Sonia Gandhi blackmailed Atal Bihar Bajpayee – to get out Rahul Gandhi from mess. It is not from horse mouth – it is from Dr Subramanian Swamy who is a senior leader of BJP. It proves that BJP and Congies are the two sides of same coin. Read Dr Subramanian Swamy’s blog –
http://subramanianswamy.blogspot.com/2013/04/dr-subramanian-swamy-explains-how-sonia.html " target="_blank"> http://subramanianswamy.blogspot.com/2013/04/dr-subramanian-swamy-explains-how-sonia.html

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Not puting up Candidate against Sonia Gandhi is not corruption

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This is the first time a political party (AAP) is putting strong candidates against others. Why BJP and Congies had fielded weak candidates in the past? It is AAP who started fielding strong candidates. Now BJP has backed out from its stance of fielding strong candidates - http://aajtak.intoday.in/story/uttar-pradesh-uma-contesting-from-jhansi-smriti-is-not-contesting-from-amethi-bjp-1-759226.html " target="_blank"> http://aajtak.intoday.in/story/uttar-pradesh-uma-contesting-from-jhansi-smriti-is-not-contesting-from-amethi-bjp-1-759226.html

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Taking help of biased and paid media is not corruption

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Funding and accounts of AAP is transparent and clean. They don’t pay to any paid media. This is the reason AAP has been blocked out by main stream media for a long time on the directions of crony capitalists, who give huge advertisements to the media houses.

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Over staying the CM Bungalow is not corrutpion

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AK is paying the market rent for his over stay. Do you want me to post here the list of BJP and Congi leaders who are illegally staying in government bungalows for years?

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Wah Re Blind AAP followers

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Now think again – who is blind and who is brain washed.

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This discussion is most funny discussion as none is ready to give an inch to others even though both parties know nobody is 'Doodh ka dhoola'.

Well, Gujarati's fervor to promote Modi is quite noticeable (you could sample from this forum itself) and as you pointed out, Gujarati's support alone wouldn't decide on Modi's victory but it is their right to support some one from their region.

If you were blue lenses, you're most likely to see everything in blue. Same applies to viewing AK's tenure in leading a Govt in Delhi. I am not going to list what he tried, where he was successful, it is circling around the internet to an extent. AK is not just a guy out of street, he is well educated, was in very responsible position, never spotted corrupted in tenure, never seem to have co-operated with those crony businessmen of India, you know which shameless, crony business I am referring to. One another thing, I am not putting the blame on people if AK fails, it is the bureaucrats who would never let him make it.

Again, summing it up. AK doesn't stand a chance to win as a leader but is likely to make a big dent on the support from Youth to Modi. His advent is one of the most notable blow to Modi's possible clean victory. It is my observation that Rahul is using this election to prepare himself and the same with AK for next elections.

My guess, the result of this election is so messy. Sidelining many senior heads in BJP would collect its toll from Modi plus the usual power hungry backstabbers. When Amitab Bachan was once seen as a PM possible, why not Modi.

The following major forces would significantly deter Arvind Kejriwal.
(i) Crony businessmen
(ii) bureaucrats
(iii) Press [you would have noticed that the press people often act atmost like a police in their region, they hate AK]

It appears Modi has accepted a debate, let us see how things head in the debate.

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Actually, this could not be further from the truth. The opposite is true. Many don't like him because he does NOT represent their state etc. And this may be natural, but not good for India overall.

If your above statement were true, then you would've seen Gujaratis promote a lot of other candidates with the same fervor. Secondly, you should know gujarati support alone did not make him the PM nominee. So your point about this being some gujarati thing is totally invalid.

Therein lies the problem of a complete lack of accountability and something where I find the support for Kejriwal so frightening. So if he succeeds in something, he is great. If he fails, it is because other people are bad. A leadership position isn't about finding faults, it it about taking accountability. And Kejriwal showed a fine example of that with his "leadership" of Delhi. Agitating without any strategy or outcome is NOT leadership, India will find that out very quickly if this guy is elected. A country of over a billion people isn't a platform to run "let's just try this out and see experiments".

If Kejriwal had a solid track record of administration at the scale of a state or a country (which amounts to WAY more than removing corruption btw), I would be behind him. He has zero and he royally blew the one chance he had in Delhi. Do you really want a drama queen like this running a country like India?

You know in office when everbody's going out for lunch? And someone asks "where does everyone want to go?" And nobody says anything. And then so that someone decides "Let's go to place XYZ". Suddenly some guy jumps out and says "I don't want to go there because blah blah blah". But he does not say where he wants to go, so nothing moves forward. Kejriwal is that guy who has no clue about direction or getting stuff done. Luckily those kinds of guys don't get leadership positions - but we'll see in India.

I don't understand this point. You're playing this along state lines again and I see a bit of bias. I don't see it this way at all - this is now about India. I'm under no illusion that Modi is perfect or BJP Is perfect. But it'll be a travesty if someone like Kejriwal will be able to dirupt the elections enough to create a chaotic situation. If India allows him to do that, then India deserves the ensuing chaos (similar to the one in Delhi).

Finally, this is why there are elections. The people of India will speak on what they want and I think its part and parcel of the democratic process that we have different opinions on what the output of this should be.

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The cowards never started,
The weak died on the way,
Only the strong arrived.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yK1i9cLAMM

Modi’s Development Model – state government pulled Economic data from web. Is something fishy?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-28/modi-s-state-pulls-economic-data-from-website-before-india-vote.html " target="_blank"> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-28/modi-s-state-pulls-economic-data-from-website-before-india-vote.html

Is Piyush Goel – National Treasurer of BJP, a beneficiary of 2G Scam?

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-2g-scam-cbi-probes-bjp-treasurer-s-links-with-shahid-balwa-1535154 " target="_blank"> http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-2g-scam-cbi-probes-bjp-treasurer-s-links-with-shahid-balwa-1535154

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Well, Gujarati's fervor to promote Modi is quite noticeable (you could sample from this forum itself) and as you pointed out, Gujarati's support alone wouldn't decide on Modi's victory but it is their right to support some one from their region.

If you were blue lenses, you're most likely to see everything in blue. Same applies to viewing AK's tenure in leading a Govt in Delhi. I am not going to list what he tried, where he was successful, it is circling around the internet to an extent. AK is not just a guy out of street, he is well educated, was in very responsible position, never spotted corrupted in tenure, never seem to have co-operated with those crony businessmen of India, you know which shameless, crony business I am referring to. One another thing, I am not putting the blame on people if AK fails, it is the bureaucrats who would never let him make it.

Again, summing it up. AK doesn't stand a chance to win as a leader but is likely to make a big dent on the support from Youth to Modi. His advent is one of the most notable blow to Modi's possible clean victory. It is my observation that Rahul is using this election to prepare himself and the same with AK for next elections.

My guess, the result of this election is so messy. Sidelining many senior heads in BJP would collect its toll from Modi plus the usual power hungry backstabbers. When Amitab Bachan was once seen as a PM possible, why not Modi.

The following major forces would significantly deter Arvind Kejriwal.
(i) Crony businessmen
(ii) bureaucrats
(iii) Press [you would have noticed that the press people often act atmost like a police in their region, they hate AK]

It appears Modi has accepted a debate, let us see how things head in the debate.

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Modi got elected 3 times in Gujrat more because of weak opposition than his own merits, else after 2002 there was no way he would have stayed in power.

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This is a laughable statement to most Gujaratis. You obviously know nothing about Gujarat.

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Just like Indira post Emergency and 1977, bribed and toppled the then Janata government, it is likely that with tons of currency in their pockets, Congress may cause problems for Modi, when he comes to power.

The uprising may be planned under AK and the banner will say it is that of "Middle Class". If we are to by what is written in the following article.

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/transitions-of-the-angry-middle-class

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