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Posted on: 04-09-13 16:17:51
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Posted on: 04-09-13 17:07:25
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Originally posted by Fido
Wonder why such things don't happen here ... Law enforcement ...
Law enforcement is absent in India and it emboldens the criminals ..
Such things do happen over here as well..not only here, every where in the world. This is such a crime where victim carries the guilt of criminality. The overall attitude needs to be changed. Criminal, not the victim should make feel guilty. Whoever commits such henious crime should be exposed...exposed over linked in, facebook, twitter...make him feel guilty. Everyone should be lookiung at him as criminal and not the one who was victim. but we are far from there. There are other elements who also could take disadvantage of such things to take revenge.
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Posted on: 04-09-13 17:08:51
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Even the general public has become insensitive and they don’t see any value in it. They don’t want to change the rotten system so they deserve to live in that environment. Sorry if I am getting too harsh but it pinches me to see the present situation of my motherland and I feel helpless so venting out.
so well said..
Everybody is now use to entertainment. All they want is entertainment on the TV, or a topic to talk & chitter chatter all day with big talks...
Recently had my in-laws come here on visitors visa for the summer. Haven't met them since I came here & from last 3-4 years even didn't had much talking on the phone. I am really amazed by how much they surprised me. All they want is watch the news on TV or watch those stupid SASU-BAHU serials & then talk and talk about them.
Last week was talking with my father-in-law about the scams in India and he was knowing all about it in depth. He started talking about the 3G scams & he was not only knowing all the ministers name involved, but all the panels member who investigated it. After talking about it for 1 hours finally he asked me "By the way what is 3G?"
All they want now is entertainment !!!
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Posted on: 05-09-13 23:28:08
huh , why surprised ? these things (particularily with women) been happening for ages, ours is a rotten culture . We were wrongly taught to be proud of our values (when young and naive). Since my puberty I been searching for values in our culture that makes sense. Except the social pressure (or baap ka danda) to complete the education degrees (by hook or crook) and condemation of high school dropping , I personally see no and No other good value in indian setup. prove me wrong, I am upping my sleeves...
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Posted on: 06-09-13 00:15:44
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Originally posted by Fido
Wonder why such things don't happen here ... Law enforcement ...
Law enforcement is absent in India and it emboldens the criminals ..
Don't believe in the infinite superiority of the western justice system or society over Indian one based on news media here and the media in India.
I volunteer at ground-zero level of society in my free time in certain organizations, interact with police(sometimes work with them) and deal with all kinds of cases(just-released prisoners, addicts, mentally challenged, homeless, natives, abusers, abused etc) here in Canada.
My day job is in a white collar office environment and the contrast couldn't more bizarre. I get a front row seat to see the same.
Crime and punishment(or lack of it) here is lot worse than what is reported in news. Just to give you an example, a guy raped two small girls recently(both under 10). He's a repeat offender(has been sentenced before for molesting kids) and guess what his sentence was? 10 months in prison and dude was back on the streets demanding access to social services from charitable organizations and govt. He visited us as well, but we referred him elsewhere.
Sure, things are way worse now than before in India and deserving stronger enforcement of law, however it is not even close to extent of abuse prevailing in these societies.
Even when the law is enforced, the results can be ridiculous as in the example I quoted. Law enforcement is lax all across the globe. India better get its act together outside the advise given by west. A few executions would make sure the message is clear to one and all.
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Posted on: 06-09-13 02:21:01
These criminals deserve death sentence, nothing less.
In addition, the role of the factory management also needs to be probed.
How they were allowed to "maintain" the ruins of the factory in the heart of the city. It is possible they were greedy waiting for the real estate price to increase. Or they might have taken bank loans, lined up their own pockets, leaving the organisation to rot. The workers left in the lurch might have their own tales of woe.
The factory management is equally responsible for the environmental degradation in every aspect and must be made to pay a price.
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Posted on: 06-09-13 09:28:10
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In addition, the role of the factory management also needs to be probed.
How they were allowed to "maintain" the ruins of the factory in the heart of the city.
The factory management is equally responsible for the environmental degradation in every aspect and must be made to pay a price.
There is no management..there is no owner..there are many such mills /factories are sitting there in legal mambo jambo. So coming back to full circle, it is legal system that needs to be made responsible....
and the problem is not of factories, for such crimes as you witnessed farms/bus/car/a corner etc can be conveniently used so you cannot make the management of such facilities responsible.
Victims should be encouraged to expose such criminals or they will continue to commit crimes. There should social awareness along with strict implementation of law. If the very first victim would have spoken, it could have saved others....