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Originally posted by Desi # 1
Desi babu 70 has retired until next election. You will see a revival of his posts in 2015 or earlier if and when elections are held

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DesiBabu70 has not retired...I just don't login every day.
as and when I have time.
you can put as many as you want Mr. sant but that doesn't make you any more funny than you already are.

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....and he says he is not an agent of conservative.

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I could equally easily say that you are an agent of the Liberal party.
freedom of speech means you can spew whatever silly allegations you may want.

but let's focus on the issue raised by the first post.
it is a genuine concern for many desis, including myself.
my parents immigration has been in the queue for many years now.
so let's understand what is going on and why the govt. is being forced to take this step.

we do have a looming social system crisis in Canada.
no one can deny that.
health care, pensions, social benefits...everything.
there is no money tree from where we can pluck money like green apples year after year.
someone has to pay for it.

it is because of the immigration insanity of the liberal governments for decades and decades that we are in this situation.
just as they like to spend, they like new immigrants.
why?
- because it builds a vote bank.
- because it provides a pool of people that will work hard and pay taxes
- because it provides a pool of people that will do the menial, low end jobs while the liberal fat cats can do all the cushy, \"babu\" jobs.

and that is exactly what has been going on here - building vote banks and a permanent pool of tax payers.
it's like a money printing machine for the liberal tax and spend governments like Trudeau and Mcguinty.

the pace of immigration has accelerated in the 1990s and 2000s.
they kept increasing immigration quotas every year, year after year.
what do you think was going to be the result of that?

i distinctly remember jean chrétien's govt. repeatedly telling us that we need more and more immigrants.
Bill C-11 was the last of the big changes that liberalized refugees influx as well.
most of you probably do not remember it...it was over 10 years ago.

and then, as if that was not enough, they further liberalized the provincial immigration program, bringing in even more immigrants.
the provincial program was an even bigger fraud - those that couldn't qualify under federal scheme would simply apply under provincial scheme and qualify.
so what if they had to work in the same province for a few years.

and finally, to appease the separatist militants in Quebec and appease the PQ, they allowed them substantially increase the number of french immigrants, most of which are actually from middle east and north africa, not from France.

anyhow, where we are today is a result of that insane policy of increasing immigration year after year.

is this result any surprise?

finally after over 25 years we have a govt. that is at least partially trying to address the issue.
the reforms to skilled immigration program made in 2006 and in 2010 were very, very important and good reforms.
now the system is driven only by in-demand skills.
immigration is fast (6 months). you either qualify or you don't.
if you do, you are processed and cleared within 6 months (from most jurisdictions).
if you have a confirmed job, it could be as fast as 3 months.

or maybe you prefer the old days when it used to take between 3 to 5 years?

those of you that only like to whine and whine about immigration, just look around you at other countries.
how long does it take to immigrate your parents in the USA? thought about that?
what about the UK?
what about France?

Today Canada is at the fore-front of freedom and multi-culturism.
it is the only remaining country (with a partial exception of Australia) that still allows open immigration.
it provides the fastest citizenship.
and without question it still provides the FASTEST permanent immigration for parents and grandparents.
even if it takes 6 years, it is still the fastest, compared with other western countries.

and it has the most lenient/lax residency requirements, allowing parents to live here only 2 out of every 5 year period, accumulated.

show me one country that still does all of the above.

some people just like to whine and whine, no matter what

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Desibabu,
I really like the conservative / tea party ideology of balanced budgets and playing by the rules but unfortunately once conservatives / republicans are in power they a fare worse than what liberals do.Or can I say the "The West wants in" slogan is back.I have to read on that not sure if that slogan is appropriate in this context (:-))
Their approach is let us feed the bottom 99% to the top 1 %.Their warship contracts was awarded with a bipartisan approach but the aircraft deal is still under wraps.We had the Muskoka fiasco last spring and those politicians are in the federal cabinet.I believe an ethics commissioner was recently sent home with a good package.I am sure she must be happier and thanking the government for sending her home prior to her term.

In Ontario I can assure you that we have 5 times the local born population of the so called family class which is abusing the entitlement system.If we want to discuss apples to apples I am all ready to discuss $$ to $$ metrics for folks living in the GTA and that contribute Vs folks living in rest of the province.I can assure you the amount of monetary and "catholic" values the non Ontario born folks are adding to Ontario by paying into system can definitely offset the cost of family immigration.I am sure if Mr Jason Kennedy had a legal,law abiding system of bringing more Irish (probably 20% unemployment),Scots,Welsh,Portugese and Spanish (40% for people under 25) population he would definitely introduce a very convenient "Anglo saxon" way of doing it with their parents and grand parents on the same application.This is the new formula the GOP is adopting justice is "Anglo-Saxon-Judaic" version not what Dr Martin Luther King or Mahatma Gandhi professed.

I am just against against people manipulating and passing laws and bills to suit their agenda.Now republicans ( Romney,leading GOP contender)want to focus on the 4 million folks in the legal queue before talking about undocumented folks.If they come to power even the legal queue will be throttled until the next election cycle.If we had more Liberals on the hill this topic would not have been there today.

I definitely speak for the skilled class of people of who came here and are toiling day and night and nothing wrong if they can bring their parents.Immigrants are taking debt to the tune of 700k - 800k in Markham and paying taxes while in such a big government the first thing that comes to people's mind is slashing parents and grand parents coming in.Let us go after the fighter jets.(:-)).

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Originally posted by DesiBabu70

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Originally posted by Desi # 1
You could not stop yourself for selling conservative agenda again. Chill out and relax for next 4 years. Then we will see end of so called as a democrat but acting as a dictator . Stephen Harper.....

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so you have no interest in discussing and debating issues and matters rationally.
you are only interesting in calling names and silly allegations to anyone that doesn't agree with you.

very rational and mature. Cool

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Minister Jason Kenney has increased the number of parents and grandparents that will be admitted for immigration, while keeping the overall family class numbers the same.

There will be more skilled workers — especially white-collar workers — as will as higher numbers of refugees, parents and grandparents, Kenney told reporters after tabling his 2011 annual report.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/kenney-holds-immigration-levels-steady-increases-white-collar-151820443.html

I hope all you permanent whiners, complainers and conservative govt. bashers are happy now.
Messrs. Desi#1, sant, Your Friend, etc. I hope your grievances have been satisfied now.
your wishes have been granted...ask and you shall receive

i wonder what is the next thing you plan to whine, complain, and bash about, do tell please.

DesiBabu70

I am convinced about money power of conservatives. They can get an agent sitting in "Location: WA, USA" act as paid agent.

How much do you get paid for becoming a spokesperson of racist conservatives?

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Originally posted by DesiBabu70

Minister Jason Kenney has increased the number of parents and grandparents that will be admitted for immigration, while keeping the overall family class numbers the same.

There will be more skilled workers — especially white-collar workers — as will as higher numbers of refugees, parents and grandparents, Kenney told reporters after tabling his 2011 annual report.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/kenney-holds-immigration-levels-steady-increases-white-collar-151820443.html

I hope all you permanent whiners, complainers and conservative govt. bashers are happy now.
Messrs. Desi#1, sant, Your Friend, etc. I hope your grievances have been satisfied now.
your wishes have been granted...ask and you shall receive

i wonder what is the next thing you plan to whine, complain, and bash about, do tell please.

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Originally posted by Your friend
I am convinced about money power of conservatives. They can get an agent sitting in "Location: WA, USA" act as paid agent.

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How much do you get paid for becoming a spokesperson of racist conservatives?

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