You missed the wife shared by 5 husbands.. :-)

Oh that one too.
But I do agree with the strategies and philosophies of gita though.

@ Fido
Actually we have different letters and pronounciations for "ta" or "tha".Its the English language which is confusing.
For Example. Ratan Tata
"Tata" is how you pronounce as one kind like "ta" in Tamarind
However "Ratan" softens and we symbolize it with "th" like geetha
Another example "Rath yatra"/ "Prithvi" we call it the big "tha"
we say "Ratha yatra" with a deeper sound of tha which should be "thha"

I guess this was how south indian languages were found from sanskrutha not from sanskrith or sanskrit.

Shriya

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Thanks Shriya .... That's a meaningful insight . But Rathan is not the same as Ratan .... anyways thats besides the topic .... at least I ve understood the logic.

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Fido.

Veteran journalist has written narration of the original Ramayan and Mahabharath by Valmiki and Ved Vyas and given his commentary (Ramayanam Pesugirathu and Mahabharatham Pesigurathu). To those who can read Tamil the books are really a treasure. He asks if we can believe that our grandparents' grandparents existed, even though we might not have seen them or known them, what is wrong believing about the epics.
There may be many spin-offs from the original, but does it mean that they never happened? For example, daily we have the blaring of the 1983 World Cup fluke victory by India, with each player giving a new version, each time they come on the screen. Does it mean that the original event did not happen.
Don't we believe in dinosaurs stalked the planet millions of years ago. May be we believe it after Spielberg made his movies. Anyway, Vanaras were supposedly not mere monkeys, but fully developed creatures, intelligent and learned, having separate kingdoms. Vali was supposed to be a stronger than even Ravan. We do not know about the "g" values, but now it is 9.78 m/sec sq, does not mean it was the same millions of years ago. It is possible that some creatures were able to fly.

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Veteran journalist has written narration of the original Ramayan and Mahabharath by Valmiki and Ved Vyas and given his commentary (Ramayanam Pesugirathu and Mahabharatham Pesigurathu). To those who can read Tamil the books are really a treasure. He asks if we can believe that our grandparents' grandparents existed, even though we might not have seen them or known them, what is wrong believing about the epics.
There may be many spin-offs from the original, but does it mean that they never happened? For example, daily we have the blaring of the 1983 World Cup fluke victory by India, with each player giving a new version, each time they come on the screen. Does it mean that the original event did not happen.
Don't we believe in dinosaurs stalked the planet millions of years ago. May be we believe it after Spielberg made his movies. Anyway, Vanaras were supposedly not mere monkeys, but fully developed creatures, intelligent and learned, having separate kingdoms. Vali was supposed to be a stronger than even Ravan. We do not know about the "g" values, but now it is 9.78 m/sec sq, does not mean it was the same millions of years ago. It is possible that some creatures were able to fly.

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Yesterday (Sunday 20th February 2011) they showed a speech of Mr.Seemaan on Channel TVI 867 at around 8.00PM on the same topic. He is a christian and was deported from Canada last year for making pro-LTTE speeches.

His theory is that India is not progressing due to its Hindu religion. He makes speeches in Tamilnadu and also made many a speeches in Toronto(check Seemaan on YOUTUBE) comparing Hinduism versus Christianity/Islam and he cites the reason why India is not developed is due to it Hindu religion.

He was giving the speech in Tamilnadu on the Milad-Nabi celebration and was asking similar questions on the very same topic raised in this thread. He mentioned to a thunderous response from the Islamic audience that if Ram was born at the Ramjanmabhoomi at Ayodhya then he could not be God. Because god cannot have normal human birth. If Ram is not God then who is the true God ?.Unfortunately he quietly ignored the fact about Bethlehem to which faith he belongs. He later added that the minorities in India both muslims and christians do not have any freedom and hence they need to protest and show the world about the Hindu control in India. Every one of his statements were responded with thunderous claps and hails of Allah O Akbar in this mosque in Tamilnadu.This guy went onto praise Taliban fighters as Heroes(Veerar in Tamil) and justified the war in Afghanistan.He further justified the freedom struggle of the Kashmiris with praises and again the people responded with wild claps and chants.

Already Kerala police have mentioned that Taliban death/execution videos are found in plenty in Kerala and they are asking many a persons in Kerala to go for Jihad in India.

This was shown in Canada in prime time. The British learnt very early if you have to break India go after its religion and they even coined terms like Hindu rate of growth in Economics(very small and slow growth) and even came out with statistics like Hindu men having the smallest penises in the world. If you do not trust me check out the google. Now when India is growing at 9% and their countries growing at 2 to 3% I do not know what the new meaning of the term is, while it current actual medical measurments show men of someother nationality having the smaller P's. But in actuality size does not matter.

India will break and when that happens it will be initiated in Tamilnadu/Kerala and then the fault line will travel northwards.

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If Hesus can walk on water then anything is possible

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Time to bring up a heated discsussion.

So there have been lots of animated movies on Ramayan of late (like Luv Kush, legend of Ram etc). The more I understand the Ramayan, the less I believe in it. Don't get me wrong .. I am a Hindu and believe in its philosophy, but here we are taking about the story of RAM as I know it and how true it sounds to you:

e.g. we have the following events

- Ram communicating with moneys (Vanars) and bears.
- A money god (Hanuman) swallowing the sun .. really?
- A bird king (Jatayu) fighting with a demon like guy (Ravana) who has a flying chariot.
- Hanuman jumping over the ocean to fight with a long dragon kind creature in the sea.
- Hanuman tearing open his chest to reveal the image of RAm.
- Hanuman flying and carrying a mountain from Himalayas to Sri Lanka in a day.

And there are many more examples like this.

At one stage I feel its a lot of exaggeration by a poet of that time, but keeps me wondering. Maybe the animated movies and the TV serial make things look more ridiculous than they actually are in text.

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You know you are a desi when ........ You spew forth the virtues of India, but don't want to live there...............You've never had a tanning salon membership

If 100 years back people would have laughed at the thought of being in a place and 'seeing' things happening thousand kms far and they can now actually see and talk using a phone then why should it prevents us from believing some things stated in Ramayana ?

If we can believe in stealth vehicles and weapons that elude the radar , why not believe in the might power of Rama's weapons too.

If we have now come to have chip in our body, why couldn't have Hanuman had a chip and a small display screen to show his devotion to Rama
http://articles.cnn.com/1999-01-14/tech/9901_14_chipman.idg_1_arm-cybernetics-chips?_s=PM:TECH


If Star Trek was a science fiction few decades back and most of the ideas are a reality now why is it hard to believe many thousand years back the civilisation had some superior technological skills

May be the tools with which we measure/identify sophistication may be different now but that does not mean science and sophisticated ideas did not exist then.

May be they just didn't document enough on the advanced concepts of technology but concentrated more in delivering the message to humankind.

Come out of the 'religious' aspect of the epic and look from human/science perspetive ..

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