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Fido
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So does it mean that if we purchase from kitco.com or some other mint ... the HST would apply ??

I am still new in this and would definitely learn more before investing .Thanks .I guess we can buy Gold on the exchange also as an ETF ... not sure if we can get physical delivery though .

Which is the best / most price effective place to buy Gold from ... I m aware of RBC / Scotiabank / Kitco and nwmint from some other CD posts ....

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Post ID: 182828 09-05-11 13:21:39
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Originally posted by Fido

So does it mean that if we purchase from kitco.com or some other mint ... the HST would apply ??

I am still new in this and would definitely learn more before investing .Thanks .I guess we can buy Gold on the exchange also as an ETF ... not sure if we can get physical delivery though .

Which is the best / most price effective place to buy Gold from ... I m aware of RBC / Scotiabank / Kitco and nwmint from some other CD posts ....



Kitco is a Dealer (Kitco is not a mint), If you Buy a Product of Royal Canadian Mint from Kitco, than there is No HST, however, if you purchase a Product, which is not minted at Royal Canadian Mint, than it will have HST..

As far as canadian banks, only Scotia is the LBMA dealer, so they have better access than others, (I mean RBC will buy from Scotia & offer it).

Check the prices, Kitco (RCM product) has the lowest mark-up on the spot price.
And if you are in Montreal, you can avoid shipping/insurance charges too.


 
Post ID: 182829 09-05-11 13:41:10
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peacock1
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Gold Aimed at $6,500/oz, Silver... $600/oz.
Hi CD friends,
Experts please share your views and or personal wisdom



By Greg McCoach | Tuesday, May 17th,

Get ready. We are now entering the final stages in the collapse of the U.S. dollar...

And it's not going to be pretty. may 2011 gold flakes on blue

The massive increases in money supplies will tank the value of the dollar and erode the very fabric of America's economic security.

As a result, gold and silver prices are will no doubt skyrocket, despite the short-term major volatility we've recently seen.

Many investors have been rushing to me asking if it's too late to buy precious metals with gold in the $1,500/oz range and recently spiking to nearly $50/oz. I keep telling them the same thing...

Despite whatever the price of gold or silver is today, both metals will be worth more than twice as much within 12 months.

That means $3,000 gold this time next year! After that, I think gold could break $6,500 an ounce.

And as you know, silver's gains will be much greater. When the bull market is all said and done, there's no doubt we could be looking at silver prices exceeding $600 an ounce.

And we can all thank the crooks in D.C. for it...

In his first ever press conference after a policy meeting two weeks ago, Bernanke told us all the ways he has saved our economy.

What a crock!

The Federal Reserve can't prevent the coming financial meltdown.

So far this year, the U.S. Treasury has raised $293 billion in net cash by selling debt securities. And so far this year, the Federal Reserve has purchased a net $330 billion of Treasury notes and bonds.

This translates to the Fed providing 100% of the net new cash the Treasury has raised this year plus another $37 billion needed to mop up even more mess!

But who will buy Treasuries when the Fed doesnt? China? Germany? Japan? You? Me?

We are now getting very close and even accelerating toward the end game for the U.S. dollar and the American Empire as we know it. Have your life boats ready.

It won't be much longer before people really start buying both gold and silver to protect themselves from this enviable collapse.

The only way out of our dilemma, absent very large entitlement cuts, is to default in one (or a combination) of four ways:

Outright via contractual abrogation (surely unthinkable)

Surreptitiously via accelerating and unexpectedly higher inflation (likely, but not significant in its impact)

Deceptively via a declining dollar (currently taking place in front of our very eyes)

Stealthily via policy rates and Treasury yields far below historical levels (paying savers less on their money and hoping they wont complain)

I would bet on a combination of deception, betrayal, and trickery.

Following the Smart Money

This past month, the University of Texas bought a billion dollars' worth of gold and is having it stored in a private depository. This is huge news.

More and more, the intelligent group of our population is starting to figure things out. Unfortunately, however, the unsuspecting masses are being led perfectly by the well-oiled government/media propaganda machine like sheep to the slaughter.

This is going to be a terrible reality for so many unfortunate Americans who have no idea as to what is coming shortly down the road.

And you can rest assured the politicos in Washington will do what all politicians do when they are trapped in such a manner: lie, cheat, steal, spin the facts, cover their asses at all costs, abuse their power, and misinform on a massive scale.

But even with the help of the government-controlled media, the time of consequences can no longer be held at bay.

Free market forces will win; governments, banksters, and their power structures will come tumbling down just as we have been seeing elsewhere around the world these past six months.

The spoils will go to those who were prepared and understood the debacle years before it hit.

The precious metals and the junior mining shares will reward those who understood, and punish those who didnt.

Yes, the precious metals market will be extremely volatile in both directions at times, but buy the dips as gold and silver will keep heading to higher and higher ground.

As long as the Fed and U.S. government follow the course of Quantitative Easing or anything like it, you can rest assured that gold and silver prices will soar!

If you leave your money in U.S. banks in dollars, you will lose most of the purchasing power of your money.

Use the downside volatility to buy any dips you see in the metals. Whether you bought gold at $600, $1,000, or $1,500 an ounce, it really wont matter much when gold is trading at $6,500 an ounce or more.

The same thing can be said for silver. Dont worry so much whether you bought at $25 or $50; silver will be priced in the hundreds of dollars an ounce, possibly $600 or more as the silver to gold ratio descends to 15 to 1, and possibly even 10 to 1.

In fact I believe silver stocks will actually be one of the biggest winners over the next 24 months.

Time is of the essence.

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Post ID: 183142 19-05-11 09:39:22
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ashedfc
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Absolutely True. That is why, one should buy the dip in Gold/Silver Prices.
Best strategy is do a Dollar Cost average into Physical Gold or Physical silver.
Silver has more upside (but its also more volatile), so if you can digest the volatile swing, the best reward is going to come in Silver.
Here is a long term chart of USDollar, its replicating the 1970-80 period.

http://goldsilver.com/re/common/images/images/Dollar%20to%2040%20%20UBS%20slide-201.jpg" border="0" alt="http://goldsilver.com/re/common/images/images/Dollar%20to%2040%20%20UBS%20slide-201.jpg" />


Federal Reserve might engineer a deflation scare this summer, inorder to justify the next round of money printing (QE3), so commodities can have a temporary setback; which will be an excellent buying opportunity.
In the 1970-80 it was only US, now the entire world is on an inflationary path.. so the effects this time will be more magnified then the 1970-80 period. So, Look at the 70's to get an idea of what asset class did very well as history is getting re-written again.


 
Post ID: 183143 19-05-11 10:13:43
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peacock1
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Gold Aimed at $6,500/oz, Silver... $600/oz.
Hi ashedfc,
I am not too technical a person, however assuming the arguments you put forth is right, and the feds do engineer such,moves, what levels are considered as the precious metals can dip up too from the current rates.

As for silver I presume it can be somewhere near 26-28 per oz, and Gold to levels of of ?...... 1400$?

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ashedfc
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Worth listening (paper Gold & paper Silver can get crushed, its the Physical Gold/Silver which will lead the pricing going forward) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xY7rkkw2N3E

Physical & Paper market is gradually decoupling. HKME (Hong Kong Merchantile Exchange) just started trading 1kg Gold futures, thereby removing the monopoly of CME (Chicago Merchantile Exchange).

Things are changing much faster than one can expect..


 
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peacock1
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Gold in RRSP
Hi friends,
Kindly please confirm on whether gold held by Questrade in RRSP accounts is physical holding ?

They do charge the holding fees from account holders, but I believe they are not giving any serial numbers of the bars held by the account holder.

When I tried to clarify with them over telephone, they said this gold is held by them however they do not issue any serial numbers to individual account holders, and that the entire holding by the account holders is fully insured for any such eventuality.
Please share youe experiences if any.
Thanks

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Whenever you experience joy, peace, security, equanimity or purity, it is only because you are aligned with ALMIGHTY.

 
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