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What a fantastic beginning. All 11 PAK players were ignored. Fantastic !!! Now they are crying foul and feel insulted. So they figured it out.

"The way I see it, the IPL and India have made fun of us and our country by treating us this way," Afridi said.

"They have basically tried to hurt our cricket and image and this is most disappointing because I believe there should be no politics in sports," Abdul Razzaq said
Ya right ... no politics

"I am surprised and disappointed at the way we have been treated. It is not a good sign for improving and enhancing sporting ties between the two countries." Pakistan's sports minister echoed

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

For first time - I like IPL ... and now only AUS Players/Coaches are left to be treated 'right'.

Did you know ... All AUS Players have always enjoyed playing against IND in India - including Haydo & Manki-Man.

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

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Post ID: 156745 19-01-10 18:23:24
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My input
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Originally posted by Maharaj

What a fantastic beginning. All 11 PAK players were ignored. Fantastic !!! Now they are crying foul and feel insulted. So they figured it out.

"The way I see it, the IPL and India have made fun of us and our country by treating us this way," Afridi said.

"They have basically tried to hurt our cricket and image and this is most disappointing because I believe there should be no politics in sports," Abdul Razzaq said
Ya right ... no politics

"I am surprised and disappointed at the way we have been treated. It is not a good sign for improving and enhancing sporting ties between the two countries." Pakistan's sports minister echoed

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

For first time - I like IPL ... and now only AUS Players/Coaches are left to be treated 'right'.

Did you know ... All AUS Players have always enjoyed playing against IND in India - including Haydo & Manki-Man.

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:










Hi,

As per me, "CRICKET" is defeated. IPL is about a club game and it would always have different players from different countries and thats precisely the format of INTERNATIONAL events like this.

Frustration is that, PAKISTANI players are from the team, which is the current WORLD CHAMPION for this format of cricket and I think its too much for this event to see them not playing.

IPL/BCCI or to that matter ICC should have tried to resolve this well before the auction and made sure that all the players from PAKISTAN should have been given equal weightage for their talents to play in the CLUB over their NATIONALITY.

Purely my cricketing thoughts.

Regards,

VJ.


 
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Quote:
Originally posted by VJ
As per me, "CRICKET" is defeated. IPL is about a club game and it would always have different players from different countries and thats precisely the format of INTERNATIONAL events like this.


So you think without PAK cricketers, Quality of Cricket will suffer now. IPL was never about Cricket anyways, it is just purely Commerce & Glamour.

OK ... lets look at lil differently
If they play in IPL then you see ... flow of Money
India --> PAK Player --> Tax to PAK Govt --> ISI --> LeT --> Blast in India


Frustration is that we still try to be "No Politics in Sports n Arts". It is about INDIAN League. Why does India have to entertain them? For once some authority is flexing muscles & we can't digest it. It should not be 'purely cricketing thoughts' when dealing with PAK. Why only cricket - there should not be ANY bilateral transaction/relation with them.




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I agree with Maharaj,

NO TIES with Pak, either Arts or Sports

You very clearly shows how money will be used against India

Well said:
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Quote:
Originally posted by Maharaj

Quote:
Originally posted by VJ
As per me, "CRICKET" is defeated. IPL is about a club game and it would always have different players from different countries and thats precisely the format of INTERNATIONAL events like this.


So you think without PAK cricketers, Quality of Cricket will suffer now. IPL was never about Cricket anyways, it is just purely Commerce & Glamour.


OK ... lets look at lil differently
If they play in IPL then you see ... flow of Money
India --> PAK Player --> Tax to PAK Govt --> ISI --> LeT --> Blast in India

Frustration is that we still try to be "No Politics in Sports n Arts". It is about INDIAN League. Why does India have to entertain them? For once some authority is flexing muscles & we can't digest it. It should not be 'purely cricketing thoughts' when dealing with PAK. Why only cricket - there should not be ANY bilateral transaction/relation with them.

Dil se milne ki tamanna he nahiN jab dil meiN
haathoN se haath milaane ki zaroorat kya hai.





Dear Maharaj and mumdxbcan,

I would have not replied as a normal stand I take to avoid myself from debates. But this being such an issue, I owe this responsibility towards being a true AMBASSADOR of the heart's language and not mind's. I mean to say, CRICKET has nothing to do with, what you have written. What we wish to see, is the pure excitement, off course GLAMOUR and 3 hours of fun filled TIME.

I never think or said that, without pakistani players, CRICKET would suffer now. Its not about INDIAN league, if LALIT MODI and BCCI had thought only like that, IPL would have never got the mileage, they received it. They would have never ever approached SA to host IPL for them.

Tell me, NBA, NHL or NFL, are they having such issues? IPL has to be BIG like these FRANCHISING examples. This format is totally different. But CRICKET should and would be in the center and the TRUE WINNER. Its just that, such formats demand GLAMOUR, COMMERCE, HYPE, MEDIA etc. factors to create that extra reach, excitement and awarenes amongst the followers.

I think, we always use our heart to MIX our feelings with everything because its the BURNT part of our soul speaks. But, do we get anything back? I dont think, we do. One has to stop and think more positive and only then ENJOYMENT STARTS, HAPPINESS comes. Hey, I am not a preacher..he he he.

Yaar, at the end of the day, would you not like to see AFRIDI and alike T20 specialists to be a part to get us some more SIXERS. I think being the owner of a franchise, they might have thought to invest in more AVAILABLE and DIPLOMATICALLY CLEAR players and I see only that as a reason.

Just, what I thought.

Regards,

VJ.


 
Post ID: 156803 20-01-10 15:23:29
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Quote:
Originally posted by VJ

Quote:
Originally posted by Maharaj

Quote:
Originally posted by VJ
As per me, "CRICKET" is defeated. IPL is about a club game and it would always have different players from different countries and thats precisely the format of INTERNATIONAL events like this.


So you think without PAK cricketers, Quality of Cricket will suffer now. IPL was never about Cricket anyways, it is just purely Commerce & Glamour.


OK ... lets look at lil differently
If they play in IPL then you see ... flow of Money
India --> PAK Player --> Tax to PAK Govt --> ISI --> LeT --> Blast in India

Frustration is that we still try to be "No Politics in Sports n Arts". It is about INDIAN League. Why does India have to entertain them? For once some authority is flexing muscles & we can't digest it. It should not be 'purely cricketing thoughts' when dealing with PAK. Why only cricket - there should not be ANY bilateral transaction/relation with them.

Dil se milne ki tamanna he nahiN jab dil meiN
haathoN se haath milaane ki zaroorat kya hai.





Dear Maharaj and mumdxbcan,

I would have not replied as a normal stand I take to avoid myself from debates. But this being such an issue, I owe this responsibility towards being a true AMBASSADOR of the heart's language and not mind's. I mean to say, CRICKET has nothing to do with, what you have written. What we wish to see, is the pure excitement, off course GLAMOUR and 3 hours of fun filled TIME.

I never think or said that, without pakistani players, CRICKET would suffer now. Its not about INDIAN league, if LALIT MODI and BCCI had thought only like that, IPL would have never got the mileage, they received it. They would have never ever approached SA to host IPL for them.

Tell me, NBA, NHL or NFL, are they having such issues? IPL has to be BIG like these FRANCHISING examples. This format is totally different. But CRICKET should and would be in the center and the TRUE WINNER. Its just that, such formats demand GLAMOUR, COMMERCE, HYPE, MEDIA etc. factors to create that extra reach, excitement and awarenes amongst the followers.

I think, we always use our heart to MIX our feelings with everything because its the BURNT part of our soul speaks. But, do we get anything back? I dont think, we do. One has to stop and think more positive and only then ENJOYMENT STARTS, HAPPINESS comes. Hey, I am not a preacher..he he he.

Yaar, at the end of the day, would you not like to see AFRIDI and alike T20 specialists to be a part to get us some more SIXERS. I think being the owner of a franchise, they might have thought to invest in more AVAILABLE and DIPLOMATICALLY CLEAR players and I see only that as a reason.

Just, what I thought.

Regards,

VJ.



VJ maybe you are right...but this time the event is in India and Indian govt is responsible for the security of all the players..maybe the security forces might have denied the responsibility of PAK players...maybe things might have been diff if the event was being hosted in any other country...who knows...but for sure there is a much higher hand in these matters that just IPL and dont blame the IPL team of boggginf down to pressures..they might rather see some play happening than no play at all...also there were concerns of some PAK players being denied the visa by indian autho...no team would like to spend money on players without being sure if they r going to make it or not...

just my thoughts..


 
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I am happy with IPL decesion ... this is a signal from indian govt to pak...

lets hope they will stay firm and keep remind them , by sports, by diplomatic way...

Seems like some one is waking up ...

We cant go for WAR - fine ... lets play diplomatic way.... cut ties, cut relationship.. no need ARM to reply... Just few strong steps more and they will realize.

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Having figured prominently in the inaugural edition, the Pakistan players were absent from the second season in in South Africa, after their government did not allow them to travel to India - where the tournament was originally to be held - for security reasons.
I think if they can pull their players sighting security reason we can also do the same.
But it is not fair for the franchises to ask initially to include Pakistani players in the auction and later ignore them completely. If this was going to be the decision of all franchises then there was no need to include these players in the auction.


 
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The real undertone in the NON SELECTION of Pakistan cricketers into the Indian Premier League is the first sign of the revolt of Indian people after the November 26, 2009 terrorist attack on Republic Of India.

The IPL teams are owned by corporates.

Other than the team of Calcutta and also that of Mission Girl(ex girlfriend of Nusli Wadia's son and great grandson of Mohammad Ali Jinnah) all the other teams are owned by Corporate India.

To name a few:

1.Mumbai: Mrs.Nita Ambani(Reliance),

2.Chennai: Mr.Srinivasan(India Cements),

3.Delhi: GMR group of Andhra Pradesh

4.Rajasthan: Shilpa Shetty


and the list goes on.

The corporate India does not need to be secular but address the real feelings of the people.

This also shows the ascendance of the corporate India over the political parties of India.

This is most important shift in power equation in India. The Indian people needs jobs and this is from corporate India.

Hence the corporate India will reflect the feelings of the people of India.

This is the first backlash and this will trigger more to come.

Don't believe me wait what will happen with Amar Singh now out of SP.

The real game of corporate India through the eyes of the Ambani brothers will start.

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/ipl/top-stories/Inside-story-All-IPL-teams-agreed-to-shun-Pak-players/articleshow/5482239.cms

Inside story: All IPL teams agreed to shun Pak players
Indranil Basu, TNN, 21 January 2010, 12:04am
NEW DELHI: What was suspected after Tuesdays auction of the Indian Premier League (IPL) is now confirmed - there was indeed a consensus among the Day in Pics: January 20


Underlying this consensus were ambiguous signals from officialdom. Union sports minister MS Gill went on record on Wednesday insisting that neither his ministry nor the government had in any way nudged IPL teams to treat Pakistani players as untouchables. However, sources in the Indian cricket board (BCCI) gave TOI details of what transpired in the run-up to the auction, which suggest a more nuanced reality.

According to the sources, the BCCI initially told the franchisees that they could bid for Pakistani players and treat them just like cricketers from any other part of the world. Around the middle of December, the board also assured the teams that it would chip in with help for visas and other diplomatic clearances from the government.

However, when team owners asked the board \"what guarantee will the franchisees have?\", the board spoke to some government officials in the last week of December and reverted with the message that the government - understandably - couldnt give \"any guarantee\". The prospects of possible terror attacks clearly contributed to this message.

Hence the IPL teams ignored the Pakistan players in auction as there was \"no guarantee\" from the government that these players would get visas and other clearances.

Also adding to the jitters of the IPL teams were apprehensions of possible disruption of IPL matches by parties like the Raj Thackeray-led Maharashtra Navnirman Sena (MNS) and Shiv Sena in the event of Pakistani players participating. With Mumbai slated to host a major chunk of IPL matches in the forthcoming season - including seven home matches of the Mumbai Indians in the league and some knock-out matches - this became a major concern.

In fact, team managements said they were already getting calls from Australian players asking how seriously they should treat the threat by the Shiv Sena that it would not allow Australians to play in India in retaliation for the racist attacks on Indians Down Under.

\"Security is a huge factor and its only the team owners who will have to take up the responsibility. BCCI is not responsible for internal security in the IPL. The board had asked the government if the Pakistanis would be safe in a place like Mumbai. The answer wasnt too convincing with a senior state government functionary pointing out that barely a year had elapsed since the 26/11 terror attack in Mumbai,\" a BCCI insider told TOI on Wednesday.

\"There was no direction from the board. The indication from the board was that the Pakistani players are shortlisted and you guys can bid for them. But they may not be welcomed in a place like Mumbai,\" a team official added. That, it appears, was enough to spook the franchisees into steering clear of Pakistani players.

The reputation of some of the Pakistani cricketers who had participated in the first season of the IPL in 2008 didnt help either. The Delhi Daredevils were put off by Mohd Asifs antics, while Shahid Afridi did not have a great relationship with Deccan Chargers.

The sources also said the boycott of Pakistani players was likely to continue for similar reasons till such time as India and Pakistan resume bilateral cricketing ties. In other words, despite the homilies often trotted out about separating sports and politics, this is one case where politics will remain a determining factor.

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