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Junior Kindergarten in Public Schools




tamilkuravan
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Originally posted by morning_rain
Just to add to your post - an Auto mechanic or automotive service technician is a qualified trade person who requires 4 years apprenticeship training and certification.


Sorry. I actually meant Auto workers under the CAW working in the big 3 or big 5 for $35 + an hour being just 12 th grade. Abviously, if you look, there might be very little VM's working there. why were VM's not given the oppertunity? was it b'cos of very few people applying or was it b'cod preference is given to Non VM's? Can some one guess or explain?

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]Originally posted by I Love North America
Given that an automobile mechanic makes $ 35 an hour, TK could become one, instead of this ranting incessantly!


Why should I?
Non VM's make around $ 40 an hour and it is a office job with AC? Am I a fool to take up a sutomobile Mech job for $ 35 an hour? I am sure that there are a lot of VM's that Canada has recruited through immigration to fill up those posts.

Peace by TK

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dimple2001
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Sorry. I actually meant Auto workers under the CAW working in the big 3 or big 5 for $35 + an hour being just 12 th grade. Abviously, if you look, there might be very little VM's working there. why were VM's not given the oppertunity? was it b'cos of very few people applying or was it b'cod preference is given to Non VM's? Can some one guess or explain?



Have you been inside a factory floor? I have. Examples would include Ford, Chrysler, Major employer in Guelph, tool shops in Windsor area, etc.

What I have observed is there are people of numerous ethnicities - in other words a significant non-Cdn born population, including a good population of the so called VMs from South Asia. I have had to spend time on the floor speaking with them. Most had difficulty speaking good english and I had to adapt myself since it makes it hard to understand in the factory noise. Although, my experience with them was nothing less than positive.

So, yes, as long there are job openings, opportunities appear to exist for everyone alike.

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web2000
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One solution I can give u immediately. In health care, reduce the pay scale of the doctors and make it more competitive to get rid of the waiting queues. This will put more doctors in service with the same budget. When only few people are paid too high u get nothing.

This was the suggestion which I gave where I worked and it saved two people from laying off.

Solutions are there and workable but u have to get united to make it work.



Thanks for trying to offer solution for the first time!

However, your solution seems to be something like - one size fits all - just becuause it worked in a situation you mentioned, you think it will work everywhere. Infact I think it will work the other way:

1. Already, many doctors from Canada shift to USA because they make more money there and have a better life style. It is not really very difficult for them to settle in US and get work if they really want to. So reducing their salaries would most probably put the pressure of migration to US after having studied in Canada.

2. By reducing salaries, people lose motivation for that profession sometimes (not always). Many parents in our good India advise their children to take up a profession not because it interest the child or is a good profession otherwise, but simply because it pays more! So while a pay freeze for a few days/years can work for survival, but reduction of salaries could most probably reduce the charm for that profession.

3. One thing I believe in - if you pay a higher reward to a person in a particular job than he can get in any other job, he will make it a point to keep doing the job well, becuase he would be afraid of being kicked out of the job if he does not perform well and then the other job will not pay him that well. However, if all the jobs paid almost equally, a person would not care much - and he will know that he can get almost the same amount from some other source if he changes his job.

For a profession like doctors, we all need the best - nothing less. In other professions, less than best can do, but not in medical. So paying them well will keep them on their toes and make them perform well.


BY THE WAY, THIS POST WAS ABOUT SCHOOLS AND TEACHING........can we stick to suggestions in that area?



I think quality comes from the passion and not from the money alone. If u have passion and really like ur profession u will less care about the money (It does not mean that u will not need it as money is the driving factor for better lifestyle)

We have so many doctors come here as immigrants. If not all, most of them have well education and experience. This means if the person is a doctor and well educated (From rec. university) and good experience that means he will definitely be above 35 or in 40s. Instead of recognizing their skills, Canadian govt. force them to redo the study which means spending another 6-7 years before he can practice which they refuse(Nobody will like to study again at that age) and start doing odd jobs which kills the doctor. I think doctors are killed here not elsewhere [From the movie "Ek doctor kee maut"]

Truly speaking, such kind of people need 1-2 years of extensive training to put them into entry level so that they can do their job(At least they can give flu shots when a panic like H1N1 happens). I am sure that a doctor will be ready to do job in his own profession at much competitive rates rather than becoming a tax/truck driver.

e.g. if u r offered office job or factory job [Both have same pay], u will opt for office job. If u understand this line u will understand my solution else another quote "Main naa maanu" [I like no solution]

















 
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web2000
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I think quality comes from the passion and not from the money alone. If u have passion and really like ur profession u will less care about the money (It does not mean that u will not need it as money is the driving factor for better lifestyle)



True but not entirely true. Quality which can deteriorate also can come from fear - fear of losing money, fear of losing job, fear of losing status, fear of society. I am sure not every professional has passion for the profession he/she is in. I for one have no liking for my profession - but I am a designated profession. The reason I am good is not because of my passion, but because I believe in doing the best I can do, in whatever, whether it be profession or social help!

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Originally posted by web2000
We have so many doctors come here as immigrants. If not all, most of them have well education and experience. This means if the person is a doctor and well educated (From rec. university) and good experience that means he will definitely be above 35 or in 40s. Instead of recognizing their skills, Canadian govt. force them to redo the study which means spending another 6-7 years before he can practice which they refuse(Nobody will like to study again at that age) and start doing odd jobs which kills the doctor. I think doctors are killed here not elsewhere [From the movie "Ek doctor kee maut"]




I am sure that the doctors who came here did not come for the passion of medical profession, since they very well knew hat their professional qualification is not recognised here. So they either came here out of frustrations of their own country, or followed their spouses who who coming here for passion of their profession, or simply for leading a better quality of life. BUT DEFINITELY NOT FOR THEIR PASSION FOR THE MEDICAL PROFESSION.

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Originally posted by web2000

Truly speaking, such kind of people need 1-2 years of extensive training to put them into entry level so that they can do their job(At least they can give flu shots when a panic like H1N1 happens). I am sure that a doctor will be ready to do job in his own profession at much competitive rates rather than becoming a tax/truck driver.



That's the only good thing you have put forward till now.......however, this is not a new suggestion. Everyone has been saying that for years.......now perhaps you can take a challenge and make this change. I would be ready to assist you as far as possible for me.

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Originally posted by web2000

e.g. if u r offered office job or factory job [Both have same pay], u will opt for office job. If u understand this line u will understand my solution else another quote "Main naa maanu" [I like no solution]



Now I think you are acting as 'Main na Maanu' - whatever or whoever gave you the idea that everyone prefers a office job over a factory job? you are totally mistaken. I have known many people in my life who who not want an office job and are happy with their factory job for various reasons:

some do not like to wear 'office clothes' and are happy with jeans and T-shirts or even shorts.

some do not like sitting in a desk all day in front of a computer

some do not like writing things sitting on a desk but rather like dealing with machines

so do not like the office atmosphere where they cannot sing, shout and have a hearty laugh with their co-workers, things they can many times do in a factory

and so goes the list..........



















1. You are saying that if my suggestion is not new then it has no value. This proves Canadian govt. does not want any change which can endanger the jobs of their own generations. This means anything which can benefit the immigrants will not be accepted here irrespective of old/new solution.

2. You are saying that doctors who come here are of no value. That is wrong. Not all doctors in India are well settled financially. These are the people who come here and are not accepted here with no reason. You cannot just say blindly that they are not well educated/experienced.

3. Office job I mean the labor worker (Not the manager. There are managers in factories also) who's life is so miserable.












 
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Chandresh .....

You know web can call 911 for this :)


 
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chandresh
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Chandresh .....

You know web can call 911 for this :)



No, he cannot since I only feel like it - not doing it!;)

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Post ID: 153449 04-11-09 16:26:31
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Maharaj
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You guys are descriminatin web on this board. Poor kid is left standing out alone in open. Bux do abhi - baat gaali se gaalo tak pahuch gayi hai.

Forget all the whiteis n backies that isolate him - but now his own community and CD is isloatin him. Only him - such a Descrimination !!!

But seriously Web ... it was really Fun reading all these pages (includin other posts). Look at some positive - you do provide good entertainment :)

PS: Yo Da Maan, TK !!! Kya chingaari hai boss. Boley to ekdum Tilli. Aag laga di - nikal liye. Post after Post, every Post ... Aag laga di - nikal liye ... Aag laga di - nikal liye ... Aag laga di - nikal liye ...



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