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Canadian job market bad news (The Star)




Hello Cd's,
Just wanted to share with you a link from the Toronto star which says that the jobsmarket will be very bad in Canada for many months.
It is also a known factor that jobs will be created only by the end of 2010. As Desi's living in Canada will know that the locals (born , educated and brought up) will be the first to get jobs. However, this senario may not apply for IT people, Finance people, people looking to exploit the loop holes of Cdn. social welfare system, Green enerey people and Health care workers.
so people who are thinking of immigrating from good jobs just for a job in Canada, please beware and be aware.

However, Canada still offers free health care (pharmacy you will have to pay), free schooling (9-3, daycare is extra and very costly) , free food (food bank), free meals (meals on wheels etc...), free library, no corruption, clean atmosphere (it is unbearably cold for 9 months and cold for 6 months), Good real estate market / RE appriciation, Cheap second hand cars, Good public transportation, Good religious centres (for all religion), Good universities, gated communities etc....

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/661861

some very thought provoking and power sentences from the articles (designed to keep you negetively thinking- thanks to the Toronto star) are :


Canada could shed a total of 1.2 million jobs this year and next

He says that in 2013-14, instead of balancing its books, Ottawa will still run a $16.7 billion deficit

The cumulative federal budget deficit over five years will hit $155.9 billion

unemployment, currently at 8.4 per cent, will average 8.7 per cent this year, compared with Flaherty's estimate of 7.5 per cent for 2009. Page sees the jobless rate going as high as 9.4 per cent in 2010

worse-than-predicted employment picture means that actual total job losses in 2009 could go as high as 530,000 (Canada's population is just 33 million)

But Page says job losses next year could be as high as 700,000


Let us all CD's come together and share our thoughts so as not to be affected by this recession / gloomy forecast.

Peace by TK

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Post ID: 146406 07-07-09 08:28:04
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Originally posted by tamilkuravan

Hello Cd's,
Just wanted to share with you a link from the Toronto star which says that the jobsmarket will be very bad in Canada for many months.
It is also a known factor that jobs will be created only by the end of 2010. As Desi's living in Canada will know that the locals (born , educated and brought up) will be the first to get jobs. However, this senario may not apply for IT people, Finance people, people looking to exploit the loop holes of Cdn. social welfare system, Green enerey people and Health care workers.
so people who are thinking of immigrating from good jobs just for a job in Canada, please beware and be aware.

However, Canada still offers free health care (pharmacy you will have to pay), free schooling (9-3, daycare is extra and very costly) , free food (food bank), free meals (meals on wheels etc...), free library, no corruption, clean atmosphere (it is unbearably cold for 9 months and cold for 6 months), Good real estate market / RE appriciation, Cheap second hand cars, Good public transportation, Good religious centres (for all religion), Good universities, gated communities etc....

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/661861

some very thought provoking and power sentences from the articles (designed to keep you negetively thinking- thanks to the Toronto star) are :


Canada could shed a total of 1.2 million jobs this year and next

He says that in 2013-14, instead of balancing its books, Ottawa will still run a $16.7 billion deficit

The cumulative federal budget deficit over five years will hit $155.9 billion

unemployment, currently at 8.4 per cent, will average 8.7 per cent this year, compared with Flaherty's estimate of 7.5 per cent for 2009. Page sees the jobless rate going as high as 9.4 per cent in 2010

worse-than-predicted employment picture means that actual total job losses in 2009 could go as high as 530,000 (Canada's population is just 33 million)

But Page says job losses next year could be as high as 700,000


Let us all CD's come together and share our thoughts so as not to be affected by this recession / gloomy forecast.

Peace by TK



Sorry but Toronto Star is not the appropriate authority to be taken seriously on this data. There is statistical significance and practical inference. Statistically the data might show a downward trend and thats in part due to the turmoil faced by the automative companies and others that rely on them. practically speaking the economy is recovering, specially in IT and finance. many major telecom companies like telus, rogers, research in motion as well as gaming companies like UBIsoft continue to hire and increase their workforce (local born and immigrants without any discrimination), of course with the proper qualifications. Even in architecture several companies downtown Toronto are quite stable with good projects and hiring (specially many desis from india and middle east).

Agreed if you have a good job back home, take a calculative decision to jump to canada. but at the same time analyze the long term benefits, This recession wont last forever ;)





 
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Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan

However, Canada still offers free health care (pharmacy you will have to pay), free schooling (9-3, daycare is extra and very costly) , free food (food bank), free meals (meals on wheels etc...), free library, no corruption, clean atmosphere (it is unbearably cold for 9 months and cold for 6 months), Good real estate market / RE appriciation, Cheap second hand cars, Good public transportation, Good religious centres (for all religion), Good universities, gated communities etc....

Peace by TK



To make it more clear and make people to be aware, let me add some negative points:

However, Canada still offers free health care (pharmacy you will have to pay)
But there is a long waiting time and no good doctor

Free schooling (9-3, daycare is extra and very costly)
But your kids will never be able to compete with Asians if schooling is done in Canada

Free food (food bank), free meals (meals on wheels etc...)
But stale food

Free library, no corruption
But u won't find latest books related to IT where technology is constantly changing

Clean atmosphere (it is unbearably cold for 9 months and cold for 6 months)
But for 6 months, stay inside your home with no fresh air

Cheap second hand cars
But very high insurance and maintenance costs

Good universities
At least not in Canada. Yes, there are so many in US


Just my thoughts


 
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Just curious web2000, what are the postives for Canada in your opinion?

 
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Just curious web2000, what are the postives for Canada in your opinion?



I wana hear that as well...


 
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Originally posted by febpreet

Quote:
Originally posted by desi-friend

Just curious web2000, what are the postives for Canada in your opinion?



I wana hear that as well...



I added the negative points, u please add positive points and that will help me to update my knowledge.


 
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Originally posted by web2000

Quote:
Originally posted by febpreet

Quote:
Originally posted by desi-friend

Just curious web2000, what are the postives for Canada in your opinion?



I wana hear that as well...



I added the negative points, u please add positive points and that will help me to update my knowledge.




some are:
superior health care with no cost or next to nothing cost
high standard of living that everyone can afford no matter what you make (preferable if both spouses work)
good education for children as well as good day cares
sound basic infrastructure e.g. highways, heating, cooling, lighting, home essentials


 
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Quote:
Originally posted by desiskywalker

Quote:
Originally posted by web2000

Quote:
Originally posted by febpreet

Quote:
Originally posted by desi-friend

Just curious web2000, what are the postives for Canada in your opinion?



I wana hear that as well...



I added the negative points, u please add positive points and that will help me to update my knowledge.




some are:
superior health care with no cost or next to nothing cost
high standard of living that everyone can afford no matter what you make (preferable if both spouses work)
good education for children as well as good day cares
sound basic infrastructure e.g. highways, heating, cooling, lighting, home essentials



I only agree with "heating, cooling, lighting", the rest you have mentioned are not true.

I don't know who told u that healthcare,education,living standard is best. These are best only on papers.

Canada just have only 35 million people and out of those 5 million don't even have their family doctors. They are in queue and no doctor is taking them.

Even in 10th standard, students feel handicapped when they r asked to do basic Math. They r nowhere without the calculator. How can u say that education is best where root education has so many problems.


If u still think that I am wrong then try to calculate how much price u pay for these (Your taxes,GST/PST blah blah..), Considering that u own a house [Which u never even after u paid your mortgage, there are some expenses which u bear for your whole life), u bear 6-8 different types of expenses for ur whole life.

If u calculate, u will find more than 60% of the people live here in debut in your so called developed country.











 
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I don't know who told u that healthcare,education,living standard is best. These are best only on papers.



One word - compare this to the healthcare in USofA. If you think what we have is not good (not saying best), then it's a nightmare in States. Please watch 'sicko' by Michael Moore.

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Even in 10th standard, students feel handicapped when they r asked to do basic Math. They r nowhere without the calculator. How can u say that education is best where root education has so many problems.



Who says, you can't excel in life if you use calculators? You want to say that Canadian born and educated Engineers, Doctors, and other professionals don't know what they're doing. Just because they need calculator to add/subtract. No puns intended, but you sound as if Canada is at par with a third world country.

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If u still think that I am wrong then try to calculate how much price u pay for these (Your taxes,GST/PST blah blah..), Considering that u own a house [Which u never even after u paid your mortgage, there are some expenses which u bear for your whole life), u bear 6-8 different types of expenses for ur whole life.



If you pay your mortgage, that's one of the biggest expense write-off. Fortunate are those who pay it on time. Which other country, or that matter India doesn't have your '6-8 types of expanses' your whole life? Don't you pay property tax, income tax, electricity bills (which only comes to life 2-3 hours a day in summer months), water, cable, car, maintenance, patrol/gas, grocery, your kids' education(takes lakhs to get admissions even in KG), and what not. So, my dear friend you can't be saved from these 6-8 different types of expenses in any other country as well...

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If u calculate, u will find more than 60% of the people live here in debut in your so called developed country.



True, but have you calculated how many Indians, Americans, Aussies, Europeans are living in debt, either credit card, home loans, car loans, study loans (these days) etc.? Are you aware how many farmers in India are living below the poverty line due to the ever growing debt? In Indian metropolitans, it has also become a norm to buy evreything with credit card. Personal line of credits are so hip these days. Here's a link FYI:

http://features.csmonitor.com/economyrebuild/2009/03/24/indian-middle-class-stuck-in-credit-card-%E2%80%98debt-trap%E2%80%99/

Ok, this topic has been done to death as well. Let's stick to the job market as mentioned by OP.


 
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Quote:
Originally posted by web2000

Quote:
Originally posted by febpreet

Quote:
Originally posted by desi-friend

Just curious web2000, what are the postives for Canada in your opinion?



I wana hear that as well...



I added the negative points, u please add positive points and that will help me to update my knowledge.



Web2000,

With so many negatives for Canada, did you leave the country and go back to India or may be immigrate to some other country? Not trying to argue with you. Just a genuine question.


 
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