A frank Question...Fake IT Resume


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kunalcanadian   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-05-09 14:55:20

Without going into the ethics of it, how feasable is it to fudge one's resume in Canada?

I am planning to switch to IT field and according to folks who work in the industry, a minimum of three to four years will have to shown on the resume.

Most IT folks I have come across have done it at some point in their professional life in order to get their foot through the door(even Canadian born folks, though to a lesser degree).

My intended area of work is in Databases(Oracle, SQL-Server).

What issues should be considered in this minefield?

Background checks? Credit Checks(will it show where I have worked before?). References? HR checks(companies mentioned in the resume)?






I guess its now open season on CD! :) (runs for cover)



pratickm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-05-09 15:38:55

Quote:
Originally posted by kunalcanadian
My intended area of work is in Databases(Oracle, SQL-Server).

Both ORACLE and SQL Server are highly specialized areas (databases) and it will be very hard to talk your way through an interview without getting caught.
Yes, background checks, reference checks, credit checks, etc. can also uncover your lies, but usually all that comes much later (normally only when the company has decided to make an offer).
For someone without any knowledge (or only textbook knowledge) of these areas, the chances of getting caught in the first level technical interview itself are almost certain.


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hchheda   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-05-09 16:14:31

I believe in IT and other high technology field with better paying jobs, the issue of references is now being moved online to sites like linkedin etc.. These are places where employers tend to check your references and credibility. The better your profile backed by reviews/recommendations by colleagues, juniors and seniors, the more authentic and reliable the candidate seems.

In Canada marketing is the most important skill and even without real experience, the way you market yourself to your prospective employers makes or breaks your chances. Using these online profiles as your tools will give you better leverage and more mileage.

I am not in IT and this may or may not be the scene, but its my guess that it works that way.

Finally, BS can take you to the top, but cannot keep you there...:D

Good luck.

Hiren



sville   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-05-09 20:38:47

Quote:
Originally posted by kunalcanadian
Without going into the ethics of it, how feasable is it to fudge one's resume in Canada?


It has been done. It will be done. And many will get away with it, atleast in first round. Can it be done? the answer is in gray area. Can't say 0, can't say 1. But keep in mind, truth is just a single phone call or an email away.

All of following are different:
. "Painting one wall of a room and knowing what's going on with other walls and to claim that you painted the whole room"
. "Actually painting one wall of a room and being unaware of remaining area and claim to paint the whole room"
. "Knowing theory of painting and claiming that you painted one wall".

Best entry point is to have strong fundamentals, positive attitude and build good references. Might take some time. But you can't just build Rome overnight.
Background checks is mainly for criminal checks. Credit check, well, is only for job positions where you need clean credit - mainly if you will be handling money or anything similar to that.
Besides Oracle and MS-SQL, other areas that might be worth considering are QA (Testing or quality) and Operations (production support). These are relatively new and has huge growth potential.
Good luck.



gktaurus   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-05-09 22:13:00

I must really appreciate you for asking some innovative ideas in this forum to support your cheating mentality. Instead, you should consider attending some IT courses that will help you in the long run. No wonder, employers are going crazy with all kinds of people applying for all kinds of jobs.



NM   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-05-09 22:44:13

gktaurus,

I am a PMP certified engineer.

I sent an email to you. I would appreciate your response soon. Thanks.



bjork   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-05-09 22:54:27

Don't do it. If you get caught then you could be whisked away to a secret, govt run death camp way up in the frigid north. :)

Databases hold crucial corporate data, like recievables, payables, sales data, manufacturing data etc. This is especially true if you are working on production databases.

Of course companies will allow you to work on production databases only after they have thoroughly whetted your skills on other projects.

Development databases are a different ball game.

Going to India and getting the relevant experience for about an year may be a better option. But then again, there's a lot happening(for worse) in the Indian IT market.



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