Ruby Dhalla at her best...may be it is yet to come


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bjork   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-05-09 16:05:32

While it does look like Ms Dhalla takes her East Indian/immigrant vote bank for granted, this is a small misdemeanor in comparison to billions of dollars siphoned off by corrupt politicisns. I thinks Ms Dhalla is being screwed by her rivals, either from her own party or the Conservatives or somebody else.

Lesson from all of this: Don't hire illegals!



meghal   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-05-09 19:29:34

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Originally posted by bjork

While it does look like Ms Dhalla takes her East Indian/immigrant vote bank for granted, this is a small misdemeanor in comparison to billions of dollars siphoned off by corrupt politicisns. I thinks Ms Dhalla is being screwed by her rivals, either from her own party or the Conservatives or somebody else.

Lesson from all of this: Don't hire illegals!



Kis politicians ke billion dollars ki baat karte ho tum ;)

Yes. Even I was surprised by Ruby's expose on Star. Because Star is a staunch liberal supporter. So may be an insider's job. If it was done by conservatives, it would be a National Post story.

I sincerely hope this does not stereotype/blemish the entire Indian community



Nightmare   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-05-09 22:48:24

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Originally posted by dudewheresmycar

I dont know what Nightmare has said in the past.. but i think i have to agree on this one..

Both Ruby Dhalla and Malhi are garbage. Both have done very little for the community and are getting elected because of their ethnicity..

Malhi was seen at pro LTTE rallies recently.

These guys are just interested in vote bank politics and not contributing to their precint ..

Both think they are above god like politicians in india do..

And as long as we have uneducated ethnic voters in their precint they will continue to get elected.




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Originally posted by Nightmare


This is absolutely unfortunate and I hope and urge Desis to vote MP or MPP based on their record, service and dedication rather than ethnicity. This is not India and we should absolutely discard Indian mentality of electing a person on ethnicity/caste / religion.




You were the one advocating the need of a Hindu vote bank back in India in one of your posts. So it is OK to do it in India and not here in la la land?

For some reason whats 'unfortunate' here becomes the need of the hour back home. Talk about double standards and spinelessness.

I don't know what you mean by 'Indian Mentality', but I don't think we need to discard anything. Instead, YOU need to discard some of the garbage that you carry in your head, may be then you can think clearly....oh wait, if you discard that garbage, there won't be anything left... :D

You crack me up oldie... :)




Hey, I know you are obsessed with my posts here. I can see you are a certified crack (based on YOUR postings) and I have no contribution in that. May be you can introspect and find reason for the same.

You also distort and lie. I would like to know where I had advocated need for Hindu vote bank in India. I would appreciate if you can provide reference to the same and context of the same. I doubt it because I know that Hindu vote bank is a pipe dream and is not possible and is the main reason for 1,000 years of slavery and suffering. Just do not start smiling, look at YOUR community in Pakistan and Iraq and you will find that your idol Osama has ignited war between Sunni and Shia. So take care of those fires first.

Coming to the main point "Indian mentality", please learn to read. My context clearly is to vote bank politics played by Dhall and her ilk who thrive on our gullibility.

It is really a sad thing that Dhalla employed illegal immigrants to exploit. She seems to have taken a leaf out of dirty Arab sheikhs , who impound passport of domestic workers when they land for job. There are horrific revulsive stories of exploitation by Arab Sheikhs on the net but may be that is entertainment for you. By the way you did not say a word about Dhalla's behaviour.

You truly are a sick person with very filthy mentality.



Nightmare   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-05-09 22:56:52

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Originally posted by bjork

While it does look like Ms Dhalla takes her East Indian/immigrant vote bank for granted, this is a small misdemeanor in comparison to billions of dollars siphoned off by corrupt politicisns. I thinks Ms Dhalla is being screwed by her rivals, either from her own party or the Conservatives or somebody else.

Lesson from all of this: Don't hire illegals!



Dhalla is also a hard core politician and if and when opportunity arises , she will make money. I do not care whether she was set up by insider or by conservatives. The fact still remains that she has done little for immigrants. We all know that immigrants from India are well eductaed professionals and if something concrete is done to recognize/ credit given for their education / experience , then they can easily thrive without any further help. She has done nothing towards this goal. It is very unfortunate that she has resorted to exploitation of immigrants. She claims that she was not aware and the whole thing was done by her family members. Knowing what we know about close family ties that we Indians have, do you believe her?



morning_rain   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-05-09 00:17:04

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Originally posted by Nightmare

The fact still remains that she has done little for immigrants. We all know that immigrants from India are well eductaed professionals

and if something concrete is done to recognize/ credit given for their education / experience , then they can easily thrive without any further help.

She has done nothing towards this goal. It is very unfortunate that she has resorted to exploitation of immigrants. She claims that she was not aware and the whole thing was done by her family members.

Knowing what we know about close family ties that we Indians have, do you believe her?



Since I dont live in Ontario and follow the politics of that region, I am just relying on internet data. Wikipedia says that Ruby promoted a program which accelerated the foreign credential recognition process in 2005.

Secondly - these are only allegations at this point (the nanny situation). Do you know that at any given time there are numerous postings for nannies, or caregivers for children that pay minimum wage, expect 12-16 hours of work per day including weekends, expect childcare, house work, behaviorial work and also other tasks as required by the workers. In addition, $350 per month are taken off the salary if room/board is required by the worker. This is more common that you may believe. I think this case has been brought to attention because of Ruby's political standing.

I cannot comment on Ruby's ethics, but it does seem logical that there are others who may be jealous of her status/power/money etc at such a young age and who are out there to discredit her. By critisizing her because of her ethnicity, you are generalizing. How do you know all indians have close family ties?? I dont.




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bjork   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-05-09 00:20:05

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Originally posted by Nightmare



Dhalla is also a hard core politician and if and when opportunity arises , she will make money. I do not care whether she was set up by insider or by conservatives. The fact still remains that she has done little for immigrants. We all know that immigrants from India are well eductaed professionals and if something concrete is done to recognize/ credit given for their education / experience , then they can easily thrive without any further help. She has done nothing towards this goal. It is very unfortunate that she has resorted to exploitation of immigrants. She claims that she was not aware and the whole thing was done by her family members. Knowing what we know about close family ties that we Indians have, do you believe her?




I guess her vote bank must not be made up of educated professionals. Either we don't vote or we are too small a number to attract desi politicians attention.

It does look like power has gone to her head and she is being perceived by the establishment as getting too big for her shoes. Hence the clipping of her wings.



investpro   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-05-09 06:49:16

Well, look who's defending Ruby- Judy Sgro who herself was embroiled in a controversy regarding fast-tracking permits for lap dancers and escort women and also helping a pizza person.
That such a personality defends Ruby does not help her case any.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20090507.DHALLA07ART2301/TPStory/TPNational/Ontario/

CAMPBELL CLARK AND GLORIA GALLOWAY AND KAREN HOWLETT

May 7, 2009

OTTAWA and TORONTO -- Four days after she was pictured hoisting Leader Michael Ignatieff's hand in triumph at the Liberal coronation convention, Ruby Dhalla was in hiding from public politics for a second straight day. And Mr. Ignatieff wasn't talking about her at all.

Allegations that Ms. Dhalla mistreated two foreign live-in caregivers have tainted two Liberal parties with the whiff of scandal, forcing her to quit her post as the Liberals' youth and multiculturalism critic, and hitting Dalton McGuinty's government with allegations of a cover-up. Ms. Dhalla has denied the allegations and said in a statement yesterday she will work to clear her name.

One of the party's high-profile MPs, she travelled widely to speak at public events, briefly flirting with a run for the leadership, and showed up at the convention in a white stretch limo.

But after a meeting with Mr. Ignatieff on Tuesday, she flew home to Mississauga to regroup, with colleagues wondering if her political career is over. "She's devastated," a friend said.

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The MP for Brampton-Springdale is glamorous, energetic and career-oriented. She's also viewed by fellow caucus members as a "high maintenance" self-promoter, unwilling to do parliamentary drudgery, and demanding with her staff.

"I don't get the sense that too many people are feeling all that sorry for her," one MP said.

Two women have alleged that Ms. Dhalla and her family had hired them under the federal Live-in Caregiver program for foreign workers to care for the MP's mother. They say they were paid $250 a week for 16-hour days of household chores - from shining shoes to shovelling snow - and cleaning the family's chiropractic clinics.

One, Magdalene Gordo, 31, compared the job with slavery; the other, Richelyn Tongson, 37, said Ms. Dhalla withheld her passport for weeks.

In the Ontario Legislature, Labour Minister Peter Fonseca faced accusations that he protected a fellow Liberal when he took no action after he first learned about the allegations from the employees themselves, in a town hall meeting two weeks ago hosted by Education Minister Kathleen Wynne.

"Will you penalize Ruby Dhalla? Will you put Ruby Dhalla in jail?" New Democrat MPP Cheri DiNovo asked in the legislature.

Mr. Fonseca said he gave the women information on filing a complaint, and a minister should not direct investigations. An embarrassed Premier Dalton McGuinty stood by his ministers, but conceded both Mr. Fonseca and Ms. Wynne exhibited a bit of a tin ear.

Liberal foreign affairs critic Bob Rae said yesterday Ms. Dhalla wants to be able to clear her name.

"She feels very strongly that the allegations against her are not true. And she has a right to defend herself and there will be full investigations I'm sure at both the federal and provincial level," Mr. Rae said.

Those investigations are likely to include an Ontario Labour Ministry probe, and possibly a federal Immigration investigation.

In this year's annual light-hearted poll of parliamentary staffers in the Hill Times, Ms. Dhalla was voted second-sexiest female MP, but also the worst MP to work for.

"It's everything starting with making sure she's in every photo-op with the leader. I often hear of events where she calls the organizers and says 'I want to speak,' even though she wasn't invited," one former caucus colleague said.

"... And she's also difficult to work for. She probably has more [staff] turnover than anyone on the hill."

That's sour grapes, suggested MP Judy Sgro, a friend who served as Ms. Dhalla's mentor in her first few months in Parliament, and saw a young politician eager to prove herself as the first Sikh woman elected to the Commons.

"She's a good-looking, single, hard-working woman," Ms. Sgro said. "She spends all her time working. And there are always people around who are fast to cut you down when you're one step ahead of them."

And despite the Hill Times raspberry, at least one of the people who has worked for her said he always gets along with her.

"She does work her employees very, very hard. Yes, sometimes I was there until 11 p.m. or midnight or 1 o'clock in the morning. But so was she."

A chiropractor with a string of Toronto-area clinics, she worked as a young Manitoba Liberal on Paul Martin's failed 1990 leadership bid, briefly flirted with acting in a low-budget Canadian version of a Bollywood film, and then was thrust into a messy squabble when she entered electoral politics.

Hand-picked as a Liberal candidate by then prime minister Mr. Martin in 2004, she essentially began her elected political career as a pawn in a bitter battle between Liberal factions.

The sitting MP in Brampton-Springdale, Sarkis Assadourian, was facing a stiff challenge for the nomination from a leadership organizer for John Manley, Andrew Kania.

Mr. Martin's team bumped Mr. Assadourian, promising a federal job, and appointed Ms. Dhalla as the candidate.

It prompted Mr. Kania, now a Liberal MP for a neighbouring riding, to support the NDP candidate. Mr. Assadourian is still bitter: "This is Paul Martin's legacy to the Liberal Party, and to Canada," he said of the current scandal.

Ms. Sgro said Ms. Dhalla has been passionate about children's issues and the concerns of immigrant women - and the allegations don't ring true to her.

"I know her mum and I know her brother ... I've always found them to be a very caring family. These assertions just don't seem to connect with the people that I know."





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