Posted on: 12-01-09 13:40:12
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20090079566&ch=633673947914382500
Seems like every Gujarati is excited about having a Nano factory in
Gujarat. However, a sceptic as I am, I am not much too excited about
India having one more car factory (I do not support that demon in
Khadi saree either)
Agreed that the industry and its ancillaries will generate employment,
how short-sighted we can be in ignoring the long term effects of this
venture?
- Car is not a necessity for us. Barring metropolis, nobody living in
cities/towns need a car to commute. Car has been a status symbol in
India, and Tata seems to be taking an advantage of our mentality.
- Cars can be a necessity to commute in North America, where they
built and planned the cities so that car becomes a necessity - not out
of distance, but also taking into account the adverse weather- snow
and negative windchills
- The big 3 in US are facing bankruptcy because they lagged behind
Japanese in innovation - addressing the demand of low fuel consumption
vehicles.
- While US still has petroleum reserves, India is almost dependent on
foreign countries for oil supply. So we need to spend our foreign
exchange to buy a perishable commodity whose need we have created
artificially.
- Whole of North America and Europe is moving toward environmentally
friends vehicles, while we still get excited about having a diesel
driven car. Why do we not learn from their mistakes and directly
switch over to environmentally friendly vehicles
- Why don't any of the municipalities/states talk about investing in
public transportation? Have indigenously designed and manufactured
vehicles that are suited for Indian roads and traffic conditions.
Encourage people to use the public transportation. The net increase in
employment due to spending in public transport will be almost same as
one gained by Nano
- Can existing infrastructure tolerate the onslaught of these new
cars? Do we have space in metropolis to expand and accommodate these
new drivers? Does municipality/states have that revenue to invest in
modifying/developing the new infrastructure?
- The biggest issue is pollution? India is already suffering from
effects of pollution as witnessed from hot summers? And addition of
cars is only going to exacerbate this situation? Has anybody including
Ramadoss taken into account the burden on healthcare system due to
illness resulting from the pollution? Has private sector taken into
account lost manhours due to people getting sick from inhaling bad
quality air?
- The city of Toronto is now encouraging its residents to either use
public transport, share your car or take a bike(cycle) to work. Taking
into account the hot weather of India, a bike cannot be a viable mode
of transport all the times, but how about atleast trying some related
pilot project? How about incentives to people who use such
alternatives? (Residents of Toronto can get income tax refund on the
money they spent on using the transit, some of the highways in Greater
Toronto area have lanes dedicated for cars with 2 or more people in
it)
- I have visited Bhuj (my hometown in Gujarat) and I was shocked to
find the increase in traffic - mainly motorcycles? And given our track
record with traffic manners, does anybody have an estimate of
resulting fatalities with more people driving cars? What about a 911
service? What about penalties for a driver at fault?
It is sad that we are just copying other countries rather than being
innovative and taking a lead in some breakthrough technologies. I
would still like Indian government to focus more on basic requirements
- clean air and drinking water, affordable and nutritious food (no
McDonalds), focus on public healthcare, infrastructure, education. We
need to start from basics - providing Indians what they need to
survive.
I agree with these views. I don't think India is ready for such onslaught on our roads and infrastructure. Imagine the congestion on our roads if everybody who can afford gets into a RS. 1 lakh car. Also the environment and pollution factors need consideration.
It is interesting that TATA is also encouraging this development...
http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/GreenCentre/article.aspx?cp-documentid=16610698
I am sorry to degress from the original post .
Hiren
Quote:Your being skeptic doesn't mean there should be no industrialization or development of any kind.
Originally posted by meghal
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20090079566&ch=633673947914382500
Seems like every Gujarati is excited about having a Nano factory in
Gujarat. However, a sceptic as I am, I am not much too excited about
India having one more car factory (I do not support that demon in
Khadi saree either)
Quote:There is a long term of effect of everything, including taking a flight to anywhere...considering the carbon emission.
Agreed that the industry and its ancillaries will generate employment,
how short-sighted we can be in ignoring the long term effects of this
venture?
Quote:You think it as a status symbol, I think it as a necessity. Don't know about you, but I would not want to ride a bike or wait for an auto rickshaw when it is 50 degrees or when it is raining.
- Car is not a necessity for us. Barring metropolis, nobody living in
cities/towns need a car to commute. Car has been a status symbol in
India, and Tata seems to be taking an advantage of our mentality.
Quote:According to this statement, cars should only be allowed in areas of North America where it snows. Is it so?
- Cars can be a necessity to commute in North America, where they
built and planned the cities so that car becomes a necessity - not out
of distance, but also taking into account the adverse weather- snow
and negative windchills.
Quote:There is more to it. Ridiculous pay packages and stubborn unions being a couple.
- The big 3 in US are facing bankruptcy because they lagged behind
Japanese in innovation - addressing the demand of low fuel consumption
vehicles.
Quote:More or less every commodity is perishable. But I guess you meant non-renewable resource.
- While US still has petroleum reserves, India is almost dependent on
foreign countries for oil supply. So we need to spend our foreign
exchange to buy a perishable commodity whose need we have created
artificially.
Quote:I am not too sure if they have a diesel version of Nano, but the whole concept was to provide affordable, efficient, safe and small (for Indian road conditions) vehicle to the masses.
- Whole of North America and Europe is moving toward environmentally
friends vehicles, while we still get excited about having a diesel
driven car. Why do we not learn from their mistakes and directly
switch over to environmentally friendly vehicles.
Quote:FYI..Nano is an indigenous design. Talking about public transport, Delhi metro project is a hit. A lot of other cities including Mumbai, Pune and Bangalore are in various phases of implementing a similar public transit system. That in no way means India should stop producing cars.
- Why don't any of the municipalities/states talk about investing in
public transportation? Have indigenously designed and manufactured
vehicles that are suited for Indian roads and traffic conditions.
Encourage people to use the public transportation. The net increase in
employment due to spending in public transport will be almost same as
one gained by Nano
When you say "The net increase in
employment due to spending in public transport will be almost same as
one gained by Nano", do you have a study or figures to back this up?
Quote:A lot is being done and a lot needs to be done. Put one billion people in Canada and you will see how your own post makes no sense.
- Can existing infrastructure tolerate the onslaught of these new
cars? Do we have space in metropolis to expand and accommodate these
new drivers? Does municipality/states have that revenue to invest in
modifying/developing the new infrastructure?
Quote:Pollution needs to be controlled everywhere. Considering the smog in Toronto, would you demonstrate in front of the City Hall asking for a ban on cars?
- The biggest issue is pollution? India is already suffering from
effects of pollution as witnessed from hot summers? And addition of
cars is only going to exacerbate this situation? Has anybody including
Ramadoss taken into account the burden on healthcare system due to
illness resulting from the pollution? Has private sector taken into
account lost manhours due to people getting sick from inhaling bad
quality air?
Quote:Here is a business idea for you.. come up with a company that facilitates car pooling in India. am sure you will make big bucks. Think about it.
- The city of Toronto is now encouraging its residents to either use
public transport, share your car or take a bike(cycle) to work. Taking
into account the hot weather of India, a bike cannot be a viable mode
of transport all the times, but how about atleast trying some related
pilot project? How about incentives to people who use such
alternatives? (Residents of Toronto can get income tax refund on the
money they spent on using the transit, some of the highways in Greater
Toronto area have lanes dedicated for cars with 2 or more people in
it)
Quote:How do you plan to get rid of those motor cycles by opposing Nano production?
- I have visited Bhuj (my hometown in Gujarat) and I was shocked to
find the increase in traffic - mainly motorcycles? And given our track
record with traffic manners, does anybody have an estimate of
resulting fatalities with more people driving cars? What about a 911
service? What about penalties for a driver at fault?
Quote:Introducing an affordable small car while keeping in mind the safety standards is innovative in my opinion. You contradict your own post here.
It is sad that we are just copying other countries rather than being
innovative and taking a lead in some breakthrough technologies. I
would still like Indian government to focus more on basic requirements
- clean air and drinking water, affordable and nutritious food (no
McDonalds), focus on public healthcare, infrastructure, education. We
need to start from basics - providing Indians what they need to
survive.
Very good response/Reply to the OP.
I thought the purpose behind introducing the Nano was to actually reduce the traffic by getting people off of their motorcycles and into a car in addition to those families that travel unsafely in two wheelers by overloading it?
You don't think this is a good thing?
Now if only Tata can make a cleaner Lorry....!
And get those bloody Ashok Leylands off the roads...!
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There are 2 sides of a coin . On one , it is safer and better for families to move from scooters / motorcycles to car if that's affordable .
On the other side , with the price being low , nothing stops an affluent family from purchasing more and increasing pressure on the roads ...... in my city I prefer to drive a 2 wheeler as maneuvering a car is very difficult and takes more time .
Even if the Nano wasn't there , Matuti 800 was getting re cycled ....
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