DesiTiger,
You tried your best. And look what TD has to say. This is exactly what is happening between India and Pakistan. While India is trying to extent friendship hand, Pakistan is giving us Kargil, Mumbai Attacks.
Look what is being taught in the schools. See link from TOI
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Pakistani_textbooks_build_hate_culture_against_India/articleshow/3898659.cms
I do not know if this is true.
May be some one can shed some light on this.
CD's and particularly the GREAT TOPIDRAMA,
Forget for a moment the Mumbai attacks, CIA , MOSSAD, Sants, Sadhus, RSS and all others and try and understand why Indians get angry with Pakistan.
See the actions on the following points and we can see Pakistans intent clearly.
a. Mazood Azhar -- He inpired the plane hijacking and he was released when his brother ( leader of the hijackers ) . He was seen regulary in Pakistan on many occassions ( it is public knowledge) . Recent Pak govt comments range from i. He is under house arrest ii. He has disappeared recently iii. We do not know where he is now.
DOES PAKISTAN NEED PROOF AGAINST THIS PERSON-- FOR GOD's SAKE HE WAS RELEASED WHEN AN AIRPLANE WAS HIJACKED. IF PAKISTAN SAY's WE NEED PROOF AGAINST MASOOD AZHAR - CLEARLY INTENTIONS ARE TO SHELTER PEOPLE WHO HARM INDIANS or HAVE ACTED AGAINST INDIA.
b. Dawood Ibrahim-- Gangster from Mumbai , living in PAKISTAN.
He is an Indian national,- no locus standi in pakistan, Several outstanding warrants pending against him including several non bailable ones. We do not need to provide proof against him. Justice for an indian national will take place in India per Indian laws.
Pakistan CANNOT give refuge to an India fugative. Either this or Pakistan can confirm that they have given him PAKI citizenship as a special honour for his " outstanding achievements" .
Again here the intent is to clearly work against India, you cannot say that we need more proof- he is not available, This amply demonstarates Pakistan is against India.
c. Kargil- We can write a book on this topic.
As a pakistani I understand that Topidrama wants to defend his country, however not all pakistan's are bad, I have several wonderful friends who are from Pakistan.
The thing to acknowledge here is that past intent was always to work against India, to move on we must first say that things have gone wrong, will not do the wrong thing again, fix the mistakes.
Pakistan must stop behaving like an ostrich. Let them not try and scare the world that they will move troops to the eastern borders. Remember Islamabad is just 110 km from the frontier provinces. When the taliban lifestyle enters the pakistani heartland, they will pray to god they had rectified their mistake earlier.
What Guptaji says is correct that if Pakistan does not want to change its ways we cannot let india be harmed for ever, We shall be proactive and take our chances.
Regards,
Rajiv
NB : as an aside people shoud be aware of the joke that Paki's did not know how to change the codes in the American missiles - when they fired them they went and hit Russia- the original target. This is one possibllity which Topidrama should explore when he is showing the photos of an explosion, everything is right about it except that the place is Russia.
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Originally posted by MGupta
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Originally posted by rsbagwell
DesiTiger,
You tried your best. And look what TD has to say. This is exactly what is happening between India and Pakistan. While India is trying to extent friendship hand, Pakistan is giving us Kargil, Mumbai Attacks.
Look what is being taught in the schools. See link from TOI
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Pakistani_textbooks_build_hate_culture_against_India/articleshow/3898659.cms
I do not know if this is true.
May be some one can shed some light on this.
see paki hatemongers....
http://www.desichatter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2212&page=4
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Originally posted by rajivjuthani
CD's and particularly the GREAT TOPIDRAMA,
Forget for a moment the Mumbai attacks, CIA , MOSSAD, Sants, Sadhus, RSS and all others and try and understand why Indians get angry with Pakistan.
See the actions on the following points and we can see Pakistans intent clearly.
a. Mazood Azhar -- He inpired the plane hijacking and he was released when his brother ( leader of the hijackers ) . He was seen regulary in Pakistan on many occassions ( it is public knowledge) . Recent Pak govt comments range from i. He is under house arrest ii. He has disappeared recently iii. We do not know where he is now.
DOES PAKISTAN NEED PROOF AGAINST THIS PERSON-- FOR GOD's SAKE HE WAS RELEASED WHEN AN AIRPLANE WAS HIJACKED. IF PAKISTAN SAY's WE NEED PROOF AGAINST MASOOD AZHAR - CLEARLY INTENTIONS ARE TO SHELTER PEOPLE WHO HARM INDIANS or HAVE ACTED AGAINST INDIA.
b. Dawood Ibrahim-- Gangster from Mumbai , living in PAKISTAN.
He is an Indian national,- no locus standi in pakistan, Several outstanding warrants pending against him including several non bailable ones. We do not need to provide proof against him. Justice for an indian national will take place in India per Indian laws.
Pakistan CANNOT give refuge to an India fugative. Either this or Pakistan can confirm that they have given him PAKI citizenship as a special honour for his " outstanding achievements" .
Again here the intent is to clearly work against India, you cannot say that we need more proof- he is not available, This amply demonstarates Pakistan is against India.
c. Kargil- We can write a book on this topic.
As a pakistani I understand that Topidrama wants to defend his country, however not all pakistan's are bad, I have several wonderful friends who are from Pakistan.
The thing to acknowledge here is that past intent was always to work against India, to move on we must first say that things have gone wrong, will not do the wrong thing again, fix the mistakes.
Pakistan must stop behaving like an ostrich. Let them not try and scare the world that they will move troops to the eastern borders. Remember Islamabad is just 110 km from the frontier provinces. When the taliban lifestyle enters the pakistani heartland, they will pray to god they had rectified their mistake earlier.
What Guptaji says is correct that if Pakistan does not want to change its ways we cannot let india be harmed for ever, We shall be proactive and take our chances.
Regards,
Rajiv
NB : as an aside people shoud be aware of the joke that Paki's did not know how to change the codes in the American missiles - when they fired them they went and hit Russia- the original target. This is one possibllity which Topidrama should explore when he is showing the photos of an explosion, everything is right about it except that the place is Russia.
Its really shocking / frustrating / pitiable how most Muslims ( the only religion ) - feel united beyond national boundaries as if people of other faith / religion do not exist ............. no1 uttered much against the perpetrators of the Mumbai killings , but they are all sad and glum upon atrocities being committed against Muslim bhais in Palestine .......... hearing the radio show at 3 pm today ... The RJ was smart enough to cut the call ...
I wish they could all co exist in one God Forsaken island .... not to come in contact with other communities ... and go back to stone age .... imagine an 8 yr old girl sold by her father to a 48 yr old man and the judge / cleric does not nullify the marriage .... such primitive religion ...............
At times I feel that with so much of fanaticism , perhaps those who are un religious , are the ones near to God since they don't kill for religion's sake ....
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Fido.
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Originally posted by topidrama
Rajiv...much easy to blame everything on one side...what about handing over Col. Rohit, BJP and RSS leaders who were master mind behind samjhota express bombings who killed innocent Pakistanis. Is India is ready for that ?....
NB: Do not under estimate the courage of our people...Lets hope this doom day never happens in the history of the mankind.
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Fido.
To again reply to TOPI DRAMA,
Samjauta express has happened now, other references to Masood Azhar, Kargil and Dawood are before that.
Yes India is ready for it( Topi Drama's words- what it means we need to know) however, India has has taken legal action- People are behind bars, they are not roaming free in Land Rovers and Pajeros.
First Paki's should take action and then talk.
Regarding courage of your people we know enough , they kill and run away. We have learnt the hard way , but now we will not let you run away.
Meanwhile please note that this is not against Muslims, we have excellent muslim friends, this is against stupid Pakistanis who want to behave like ostrich's.
Kind Regards to Topi Drama for making life interesting . You are debating on a point where there is no room to even make half an argument.
Regards,
Rajiv
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