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Olympic - What is in China that India lacks




Being a neighbor of India, I am getting to think what is in China that is not in India. I mean facilities, opportunities.

Too many medals? Huh.. What way we lack the sports / fitness sense. I still feel the poverty could be much higher in China.

Where the hell all our energy getting sucked ? What really demoralizes / demotivates the youngsters (again in the context of comparing China only)...

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As per U.S. Census Bureau, International Database, China has a population of 1,313,973,713 while India has a population of 1,095,351,995.
[2006 numbers].

My theory is that it is some people among the 218,621,718 difference that are winning medals.
As soon as India catches up on that difference, we will start winning medals too.
Given our rate of growth, this won't take too long - most likely in time for the next Olympics.
So hang in there.
:cheers:

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Quote:
Originally posted by JRF
Being a neighbor of India, I am getting to think what is in China that is not in India. I mean facilities, opportunities.

Too many medals? Huh.. What way we lack the sports / fitness sense. I still feel the poverty could be much higher in China.

Where the hell all our energy getting sucked ? What really demoralizes / demotivates the youngsters (again in the context of comparing China only)...

Arrggghhh...


These are the Questions that every Indian Asks ... not before or after but during every Olympic. Where are you for rest of 206 weeks?

There are some athletes which are good ... but rather than support all that we give is f%^&ing complains - even on this board.

On the other side of:
One major difference - China has President with Stick. And the Best/Worst part is that he Uses it. Chinese & Indian both are same, in general sense both these need "Bamboo". India has Democracy, Secular, Reservations, Corruption. Rather than all these, give them "Bamboo" and you'll definitely get Medals.


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I dont get it, can you pl explain the stick concept a little more in detail Maharaj.

 
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They may have strict training system and a lot of monetary help from govt. unlike India where we have dirty politics showing at all levels in sports.Devi's failing in dope test. One fails to understand WHY do weightlifters face all this everytime ..somethings fishy.

 
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Sure, the government in India is corrupt and gets in the way. But to say that the govt. is the main reason why India does not win more medals at the olympics is being complacent at best.

Becoming world class atheletes requires a lot more than just financial support, it requires unrelenting drive, big ambition and above all, superhuman perseverence. How about we forget about the govt. for a while and look at the athletic inclination of the nation as a whole (i.e. outside of cricket)? After all, there are athletes from poorer countries with govts. much worse that do better than India in the olympics.

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Quote:

These are the Questions that every Indian Asks ... not before or after but during every Olympic. Where are you for rest of 206 weeks?

There are some athletes which are good ... but rather than support all that we give is f%^&ing complains - even on this board.

On the other side of:
One major difference - China has President with Stick. And the Best/Worst part is that he Uses it. Chinese & Indian both are same, in general sense both these need "Bamboo". India has Democracy, Secular, Reservations, Corruption. Rather than all these, give them "Bamboo" and you'll definitely get Medals.




- There is corruption in China too.
- China is not democratic but pretty commercialized at least from investor perspective.
- I feel it is the tolerance in sports than the Reservation. Have you observed the reaction of a bowler if fielder drops a catch or mis-fields, it prevails in every sports there. The lack of encouragement washes out any growth.

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Remember the phrase "catch'em young"? That's what China does.
I saw a documentary last year, on BBC I believe, where they showed how the Chinese kids were training for the olympics. It was a full time job. They stayed in dorms and trained all day. Dedication and the goal to get a medal and make the country proud.

dio


 
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Exaaaaccccctly my point, there is corruption and poverty in China. There isn't freedom of press etc.., And we know that it is nearly impossible for a sportsman to shine under pressure.

Encouragement is quite needed to put strong perseverance.


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Originally posted by BlueLobster

Sure, the government in India is corrupt and gets in the way. But to say that the govt. is the main reason why India does not win more medals at the olympics is being complacent at best.

Becoming world class atheletes requires a lot more than just financial support, it requires unrelenting drive, big ambition and above all, superhuman perseverence. How about we forget about the govt. for a while and look at the athletic inclination of the nation as a whole (i.e. outside of cricket)? After all, there are athletes from poorer countries with govts. much worse that do better than India in the olympics.


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The weak died on the way,
Only the strong arrived.
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Say what you will, the Chinese are a tight bunch of very proud people. They are proud of who they are, what they can do and they have proven it. They are not afraid to speak up even if the other person doesn't understand a thing. Sometimes, the way they confidently speak, they can make you feel dumb with their incoherent, undecipherable, garbled "English".

Even the communist government is prepared to undergo changes and they have demostrated that with their economic policies and growth.

India's "unity in diversity" is a nice little antiquated quote and that's it. East doesn't like west, north doesn't like south, south doesn't like south-east...I mean it never ends and each one doesn't want to climb up the ladder by his/her own merit but by pulling the other down. We don't even have to blame the government. Even if you take the much revered sport of cricket, the selectors are forced to make sure they don't offend people by selecting players from all parts of India such that the nation is well represented. That's the irony that has spelled India's doom.

All this IMO.

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