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Asaram Bapu !!!




It’s really disgraceful incident happened in Ahmedabad.

As everybody knows there are many cases has been filed against Asaram and his Ashram.

Should we people still believed in these ‘Bapu’ , ‘Swami’ and ‘Sant’ ??



-Taker


 
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Post ID: 123399 10-07-08 16:37:07
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It’s really disgraceful incident happened in Ahmedabad.

As everybody knows there are many cases has been filed against Asaram and his Ashram.

Should we people still believed in these ‘Bapu’ , ‘Swami’ and ‘Sant’ ??



-Taker




what happened in Ahmadabad?


 
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what happened in Ahmadabad?



Sandesh.com
Gujaratsamachar.com

or

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Ahmedabad/Missing_boys_found_dead/articleshow/3204519.cms


-Taker


 
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I don't believe in any sadhus,swamis, etc, but the link does not prove any anything yet. Further investigation should throw some more light into the incident.

 
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What goes in these ashramas , matths etc is beyond our speculations. Every now and then the realities of such establishments is brought to light but then die down with no results because of strong backing from politicians and high n mighty.
Better read good books to enrich/refresh/enlighten yourself than to be attached with any such Babas.


 
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This may be really an accident. Or This can be as the newspaper write.

Newspapers need stories. People need entertainment with Masala. And whenever anything happens around big religious establishment like this one, they simply jump-in.

You can't prove anything and people will keep going to the Ashram as usual. I think it is human nature. People need to get protected (agains the sins they did) and such Bapus can assure to protect (brainwash, if you want to use that term), so for them such news are bullshit.

For others, who are not involved, it is just a Masala!! Keep reading. After a month everything will disappear - from news paper pages and from people's mind!

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Swamijis, babas
Swamijis and babas like Asharam Bapu, Sathya Sai Baba are criminals to mankind. They fool people, extract money, sexually explit women/girls/boys and do all kinds of illegal activities. More people keep away from more better it is for them.
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Swami(s) and Baba(s)
Swami(s) and Baba(s) are making people fool. You dont need them to pray a god. Some swamis say god to themselves. It's money making business. That day is not too far when these ashrams and sansthan will list them on BSE or TSX.

A year or two back, while I was in India, i read a news about Stan (Breast) baba, who used to put his hand women breast to get baby child. Lately, police captured him.

We should not forget a child was sexually abused in kalupur mandir. and prostitution occurred too.

Some NRI was killed for diclosing the money information of the parivar to the newspaper.

Only few sanstha(s) are real, they really do samaj seva. Most of all are Bakwaas!! I believe whatever happened in ahmedabad is for sell of child organs or for tantrik experiments.

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Post ID: 123544 13-07-08 11:51:01
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RE :Asaram Bapu!!
Hi,

As you are talking about Asaram Bapu, I thought I will also join in discussion and share my views.

Sometimes we have think with our own intellect before getting into the trap of media when comes to saints because What is happening is nothing new for Hindu saints.. Samaj have created similar problems for Buddha..Kabir…Nanak ..Vashishth Je during their mortal period.

Itseems now the truth came out and all the media newspapers who published that it was mysterious death clearly now stated that \" The boys joined the Gurukul 1 month ago, they escaped from backside of ashram and got drowned in sabarmati river. Police, Post mortem report, CBI enquiry, FSL report gave a ” clean chit” report to ashram saying it was natural death caused by drowning in water. And few news papers have already published this fact. Asaram bapu himself asked the government to treat the case fairly without any vendetta & also asked them for CID raids so that people do not get into conclusions before coming to a decision\"


I think we should see this real facts Video of what happened in Amhedabad Ashram :

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4299973905946223283&hl=en

Just think here with your good intellect ” If the two children who joined a hostel 1 month back escaped from hostel and unfortunately got drowned in river, why is Sant shri Asaram Bapu is getting in the picture, don’t you think this is unfair? ” Does children missing and escaping from hostels is something new we haven’t heard of? This issue is getting into disaster because media became so TRP focused that it cant see any thing else other than to show videos of violence and blood.

I watched his teachings and bhajans in youtube and google by typing 'asaramji bapu' and came to know that he basically teaches all nice stories of GOD from our Upanishads, scriptures and explains the moral behind it and many Listeners of his satsang whom I know, who used to drink alcohol,smoking left their habits,with his words he takes way all bad habits.

when I watched his satsang and meditation videos in www.ashram.org and www.hariomgroup.org , I get divine bliss and feel very happy and cheerful. We can say how he changed lives of millions of people by seeing his biography


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6775430434064466853
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8560725509256331841
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4607757776458957130

I also happened to see this video too

Some famous leaders veiws about Sant Shri Asaram Bapu

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6552877004580793632&hl=en

Recently after following him,my life as changed completely, wherever I go find success peace,happiness and lot of discipline in life. I am not going for any blind faith. If we listen to him you will realize that how beautiful life will change ..there are lakhs of software engineers and doctors who are following him, I don't think they are all having blind faith. We educated should think before taking into any conclusions about saints. If we take advantage on how he teaches yogic techniques on how to improve memory,concentration, pranayam , health remedies naturally, living healthy mentally and physically and how he teaches greatness of celibacy in life for the youth and how he helped them not to become prey to diseases , which we would never know in this kind of generation, It is benefit for us right? Satsangs happening in different places in India doesn't charge a rupee from anyone who attend it. Just think about it. Ashram's and Asaram Bapu's aim to reinstate our old culture of India which we are about to lose in India.

I happened to see that there are many social activities done by ashram listed here for the past 30 yrs which media failed to bring limelight on

http://ashram.org/presentation/servicetohumankind.ppt

Please wait for the real truth to come out, whatever media is now talking ill will come very soon with the apologies and the real truth . If you haven’t heard already, there are now apologies coming up from many news papers for all these false allegations.But weshould always remember that only truth (Satyameva Jayati)prevails.

Some newspapers also shown the real facts like this http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=138192 ?

We should be careful and not talk bad about saints because it is said in our many scriptures that it is blaming a saint is the biggest sin that a human can do and Even God cannot forgive them.

In “GuruGita” Lord Shiva says to Goddess Parvati that
“A Saint can save an individual from the God’s anger but God cannot save from Saint's anger.”

And also Guru Nanak Dev has said in Guru Granth Sahib,

Sant ka nindak maha hatyaara,
Sant ka nindak Parmeshwar maara
Sant ke nindak ki bujhey na aash,
Nanak Sant ka nindak sadaa niraash...

Sant sataaye teeno jaaye Tej ,Bal aur Vansh

Hope you understood my views. If there are any questions , please mail at
hariombooks@gmail.com, I will help you understand.

Regards.
Sukeshini
















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Originally posted by taker


It’s really disgraceful incident happened in Ahmedabad.

As everybody knows there are many cases has been filed against Asaram and his Ashram.

Should we people still believed in these ‘Bapu’ , ‘Swami’ and ‘Sant’ ??



-Taker



 
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Real facts Video of what happened in Amhedabad Ashram
Real facts Video of what happened in Amhedabad Ashram :

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4299973905946223283&hl=en


 
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