What the seller agent can do?


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desi in ottawa   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-09-07 13:03:57

What the seller agent can do before negotiating an offer? The way I look at it, the seller agent will:

a. list the property on the MLS (most of the work done by admin assistant and the web programmer)
b. put a sign on the property
c. do a 2 hr open house

What else?

DIO



tamilkuravan   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-09-07 13:17:13

Dio,
The question that you raised has been done to death. I am sure that you will soon have brick bats thrown at you. If you would have searched the forum for such a topic, you would have seen very lengthy threads explaining exactly how the realtors have an edge over the induvidual selling the house by himself (I could have provided you the links myself, but I have access to the "Edit your post" option only once in 4 hours and I donot want to waste my quota of posts by posting on the same topice once in every 4 hours). The main edge as the realtors claim is that they can do a comprehensive search about the prices of houses sold in the neighbourhood and thus can quote you a fair price (selling below of which you are loosing your money). It is then your decision as to decide which offer you take. Also (as one realtor implied) is that it will do the background check of the potential buyer so that you donot transfer your title deed for some bounced cheque (identity theft). I also belive that MLS buyers will buy only from an MLS seller (a very clever concept).
I have said this before and I will sy it again now. Not every MLS broker buys and sells for 5%. you can get the same services from many MLS broker who are taking just 2% comission. Though many have argued that 2% brokers are Walmary and 5% brokers are best buy, I leave it to the discretion of the concerned parties to make the decision.
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Desi # 1   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-09-07 16:18:54

Brokers are facing tough competion. Two of my friends sold their houses, one paid 3.5% (unconditional) and other one 3% (with a condition the seller will buy the property through same broker which he did)



desi in ottawa   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-09-07 16:36:22

Would it be possible to put a clause when dealing with the selling realtor that if the property is not sold within xx days (for the price agreed upon), then the realtor firm must to buy it?
Also what is the minimum no of days that one can sign up with the realtor? 30 days, 45 days,..?

DIO



Desi # 1   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-09-07 09:38:22

Quote:
Originally posted by desi in ottawa

Would it be possible to put a clause when dealing with the selling realtor that if the property is not sold within xx days (for the price agreed upon), then the realtor firm must to buy it?
Also what is the minimum no of days that one can sign up with the realtor? 30 days, 45 days,..?

DIO



Some realtor offer that service with a condition that you need to hear them which could be unreasonable.

Minimum number of days - I think 90 days but not sure.



rahul_singh23   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-09-07 15:09:47

Buyers have the Power
As a buyer, you must remember you are the one in control. You are the scarce commodity in the marketplace. The seller is one of many for you to chose from, and they are all desperate. They need you. You don’t need them. No matter who you buy from, you are going to leave all the other sellers disappointed because they are going to continue to be trapped in their homedebtor’s prison. You can’t please everyone, so focus on pleasing yourself
Sellers has too loose
Don’t become concerned with the sellers needs, wants and problems. Does it matter to you if this house is their entire savings for retirement? Do you care if a sale below a certain price puts the seller into bankruptcy? If these issues matter to you, ask yourself this, “Would you give them money if you were not buying their home?” Unless you are running a charity, you should not care about the consequences of someone else’s financial decisions. They created their own problems; it is not your responsibility to solve it by overpaying for a house

Pay the Lowest Possible Price
This may sound like common sense, but the behavior of knife catchers over the last couple of years shows otherwise. Don’t ask for or take any incentives, and pay your own closing costs. You are paying for this stuff, it is just buried in your loan. You will be paying interest on this purchase for the next 30 years, and you will be paying a 1% property tax on these costs for as long as you own the house. You are far, far better off lowering the price and foregoing the incentives and paying your own closing costs.
Your First Offer is Your Best Offer
This is the most counter-intuitive part of buying in a buyers market. Ordinarily sellers, or more accurately the seller’s realtor, try to create a sense of urgency to buy the house. They want you to think other people are looking, there is going to be a bidding war, you need to get your offer in today, etc. Remember, in a buyer’s market these ploys are all lies. You are the only buyer, and you can take as long as you want to buy the house. Your task in negotiating is to create a sense of urgency and panic in the seller. This is why you make your first offer your best offer.
Start with a bid at least 10% below asking price; however, it can be less if the most you are willing to pay is less. Lower your bid as follows:
• If you are actively bidding on the property, make your offers expire in 5 days. If you are still interested in the property resubmit a fractionally-lower offer after 7 days (make them sweat for 2 days.) Don’t make is so much lower as to lose consideration, but make it enough lower that the seller gets the message that they need to come to your price before it gets any lower.
• If the seller makes a counter offer, retract your offer and resubmit a lower one. Works the same as the time decay offer above. After you have lowered your offer a few times, the seller may panic and take your offer before it goes any lower. This is what you are after.
• Lower your offer $500 each time you speak with the seller’s realtor. Every time they communicate with you, they will pressure you to buy. Lower your bid each time they speak with you to send a message that their pressure is not working, and it is, in fact, hurting their client.
• Lower your offer $2,000 if the realtor uses one of the standard lies I mentioned above.
• If the realtor tells you there is another bidder on the property, immediately withdraw your offer and tell them to call you if it falls out of escrow with the other buyer. Since this statement from the realtor is almost certainly a lie, it will cause them to have to explain to their client why the only buyer around has pulled their offer.

Don’t Close the Gap
When the seller starts to counter-offer, it is very tempting to agree to their price to close the deal, particularly if they are below your original offer. Don’t do it. In a buyer’s market, the seller will come to you. You have the power. However, if they are below your original offer, and if you really, really want the house, you may raise your offer one time, but do not get closer than 1% to their counter-offer. The selling broker makes a 3% commission, and the realtor you have been dealing with probably makes 1.5%. By getting to within 1% of the seller’s counter-offer, the realtor can choose to give up part of their commission to make the deal. Since they are desperate as well, you should go ahead and squeeze them. A 1/2% commission is better than no commission.
After you have agreed on price
Just because you have reached agreement on the sales price does not mean you are finished making this deal the best it can be. Go through your inspection sheet and establish holdbacks for all repairs. Make the holdback amount 150% of the lowest qualified bid. Say you are doing this as an incentive for the owner to get this work done before move-in. Also, if there are decorative items you do not care for, use the same holdback procedure for these items. The time to get your granite tops is before you move in.
If you are really tough
For those of you with nerves of steel (and a desire to abuse your power,) I have a few additional suggestions for you:
• A week before closing, tell the seller or realtor you are considering pulling out of the deal because you have found another property you like. See if they offer you an additional discount.
• Three days before the closing, withdraw your offer and say you want an additional $1,000 off. Offer no explanation: You are only doing it because you can.
Conclusion
Not everyone has what it takes to implement all of these price-busting techniques. However, the more of these you put into practice, the lower the price you will pay for the home you want. You will never see the seller or the seller’s realtor ever again. It does not matter if you offend them.



puttoo   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-09-07 15:27:53

Quote:
Originally posted by rahul_singh23

Buyers have the Power
:• Lower your offer $2,000 if the realtor uses one of the standard lies I mentioned above.
• • Three days before the closing, withdraw your offer and say you want an additional $1,000 off. Offer no explanation: You are only doing it because you can.
Conclusion
Not everyone has what it takes to implement all of these price-busting techniques. However, the more of these you put into practice, the lower the price you will pay for the home you want. You will never see the seller or the seller’s realtor ever again. It does not matter if you offend them.




Rahul you are scaring DIO he is a sellers.....:D





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