India loses maximum lives to terror except Iraq
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Posted on: 27-08-07 23:10:01
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Originally posted by Fido
So what are you doing for it sir since you are so concerned ??? Have you ever considered donating towards welfare organizations or running elections ?
Its easy to be a deserter and come out rather than face the reality and confront it .
The least we can do is stop despising and cribbing . Because doing that does not help anyone .
Dear Fido,
It seems you did not have time to comprehend what I wrote and what is being debated. It is not about my contribution or for that matter your contribution. I do not have to proclaim and prove my good deeds to you. However, since you have raised issue, I would like to state that my family has established a small charity and every year we make our own small contribution by meeting medical and drugs expenses of a camp which runs in a suburb of Ahmedabad and carries out Cataract operations (every year) and other medical camps for 4 days wherein Gujju Desi doctors from USA volunteer their time. Now I do not know what moral authority you have to ask me about my contribution nor any CD has to explain or respond to such an inappropriate questions. I would request other CD members to at least send a PM to this guy so that it does not become a pre requisite to give explanations about one's contribution to society before particpating in debate. I believe Charcha is about healthy debate and expressing point of view. Let us limit it to real Charcha and not probe in to others financial / personal affairs.
I still do not understand questions" So what are you doing for it". Is this thread abt what I or you do? It is about the complacency, indifferent attitude and lack of sensitivity of Indians. I am wondering loud why a nation so great and rich in culture has not responded the way other nations do? Please read my post carefully and my discussion is not just limited to terrorism though the original posting is about terrorism. It about so many more issues afflicting India. It seems that in rat race to be economic power, we have forgotten our rich heritage, compassion for genuinely poor and veering towards Goonda Raj of Laloo and Reddys
Obviously - if you are discussing & are concerned with a problem you should be willing to comprehend a solution and shoulder it .
Generally I find a lot of CDs cribbing - 'You know India is so bad , its so hopeless , people are so corrupt , complacent ......... ( and so we came out ) '
If you are so concerned about all that , it makes more sense to stay back in the country and fight off as much as you can .... otherwise discussing and counter discussing and using words like 'pathetic' is nothing but hypocrisy. - Any simple Indian would like to ask you - 'bhai saab aapne kyaa kiya ... aap chale gaye chod ke ?? '
So if the infrastructure is so bad and politics is hopeless then does it mean that people like Manmohan Singh , Arun Shourie , AB Vaijpayee (who lined up the Indian Army on the Parliment attack as well as the Kargil issue ) should not exist ? There are and must be people in India who must be equally if not more concerned about these strikes and must have lost sleep over this .
What stops you from being one of them and running for elections - or is it that the condition was so hopeless that the best you could do was leave others to their destiny and come out for good !!!
Yes of course if you wish to discuss and for those who wish to , the stage is open . I am sorry I might have been over sensitive but coming back - 'What do you suggest we can / should do in wake of the recent terrorist attacks ?'
BTW , I honestly appreciate the endeavors you take for running cataract procedures . Now thats worth a discussion 
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Fido.
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Originally posted by Fido
Its easy to be a deserter and come out rather than face the reality and confront it .
Is that what you did?
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Originally posted by Fido
The least we can do is stop despising and cribbing . Because doing that does not help anyone .
Practise what you preach?
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Originally posted by Nightmare
. I am wondering loud why a nation so great and rich in culture has not responded the way other nations do?
Which great nations response are you talking about? Wold like to hear which country has had a good record of dealing with terrorism.
Here is another "great "nations response to terrorism
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6966756.stm
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Originally posted by febpreet
[Even if, by any chance you get elected - you can't work independently or take the decision all by yourself. If you do, your political party would either oust you or stand against you up in arms. Ever heard about Mr. Manmohan Singh, T. N. Seshan, Jagmohan, A.B. Vajpayee, and a whole lot of alike politicians? Some of them surely came into power or still are, but despite of being on a higher post and honest, their stature is nothing. Any honest decision towards the welfare of the state often goes against the party they belong to.]
We had a great politicians which are listed above and we could add more too. But dont say their stature is nothing. Definitely we have good results of their actions. For example upliftment of quality of life of Indian people since independence, economic growth, independency in comparision of past, powerful defense, electronic revolution, etc. The list can be a longer. And about politics of party interest it's everywhere if you see in US, Canada, UK. Party politics is even worse in these well developed nations. Corruption at top level is more in well developed nations. But Unlike Canada and US our people are not honest towards nations and corruption is at lower level. Our people must learn to live with national spirit and their duty towards nations. How many small business people pay taxes in India in comparision of these countries. So not only politicians are to be blamed but if you do comparative analysis our people (change is very difficult and should start from scratch i.e. basic education etc.) are to be blamed more for the situation.
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Originally posted by puttoo
Here is another "great "nations response to terrorism
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6966756.stm
Agreeing to do something that has been previously announced (ie the South Koreans withdrawing their non-combat forces by the end of the year) is a lot better than the defence minister of a country travelling with 3 terrorists on an airplane after their release (Jaswant Singh on a flight to Kandahar with Masood Azhar in 1999).
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Originally posted by crenshaw
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Originally posted by puttoo
Here is another "great "nations response to terrorism
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6966756.stm
Agreeing to do something that has been previously announced (ie the South Koreans withdrawing their non-combat forces by the end of the year) is a lot better than the defence minister of a country travelling with 3 terrorists on an airplane after their release (Jaswant Singh on a flight to Kandahar with Masood Azhar in 1999).
Well when Jaswant singh went to Afgahanistan ... it was a country that India had no control over.... right now afghanistan has troops from all over the western world, what difference has that made. The Koreans had to make a deal with the Taliban under the very nose of a super power and whole of NATO. Some way of dealing with terrorists.
