India loses maximum lives to terror except Iraq
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Posted on: 27-08-07 19:22:01
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Originally posted by Iceberg
Nothing. And then they crib when even there own cousins look down on them.
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Originally posted by Fido
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Originally posted by Nightmare
Indians are pathetic lot on which world must be laughing and terrorist feasting.
I believe that Indian people have become absolutely insensitive. No soul only body and body politic.
Wow - we really have a couple of people here who are proud of India and are doing India proud .
May I know what esteemed work have you accomplished to reduce this 'pathetic state' of the place you have grown in .
Pathetic it is. Look at the way we have created more divisions than British could achieve. Indian populace is divided on basis of language, caste, sub caste, religion, profession and state. While politicians are certainly worst of the lot, it is “we” Indian who elect them. I remember my college days when we used discuss Capitalism Vs, Communism Vs Socialism, political philosophy of Jaiprakash Narayan and Gandhiji and host of other socio economic issues. Now we have been hooked to TV sensational reporting and film gossip. How can such dirty politicians be elected to Parliaments and legislatures? How can they get away with such corruption? How can they create psyche of such a great division in our mind that one section fights and kill other? How can there be so much poverty while we boast of abundance? How can floods create misery for people year after year?
It is not that I am not proud of India and Indians. In fact I am proud and perhaps more than you. It just pains me to see terror wrecking havoc with ordinary Indians and nothing being done. Look at Spain, USA and England where after one terror attack, second attempt has not succeeded. I believe the reason is that people will never elect a government which can not control it. In India terrorism is going on for at least last 25 years but we have never cared for victims otherwise Kashmiri Hindus would not be rotting in refugee camp. Can you imagine a nation where their own citizens in their own country become refugee?
I am not trying to belittle India’s achievements, just drawing attention to insensitivities of Indian populace to numerous issues listed in my original post.
You guys, instead of debating the issue try to attack me asking about my contribution. Well, I believe that all decent and educated Indians have contributed in their own way which includes me and I am equally confident that you guys have done your best to contribute. The issue I raise is that how such decent, cultured and nice people have become so desensitized that we are not affected by others miseries. Bombing in Bombay and Hyderabad are the examples. How is that politicians playing gutter level vote bank politics get away so easily?
So what are you doing for it sir since you are so concerned ??? Have you ever considered donating towards welfare organizations or running elections ?
Its easy to be a deserter and come out rather than face the reality and confront it .
The least we can do is stop despising and cribbing . Because doing that does not help anyone .
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Fido.
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Originally posted by Nightmare
Look at Spain, USA and England where after one terror attack, second attempt has not succeeded.
You need a lesson in history ...... Spain , england had its share of terrorism for a number of years ... remeber Basque and the IRA ...... you name a country ...even in west and it has had its share of terrorists .... France, germany , japan
Infact contrary to what most of the people are writing here India has dealt with terrorism in a far better way then most of you would like to acknowledge. India is a very diverse country with different view points and opinions. With its limited resources it has withstood attacks to weaken it and i am very confident it will be able to deal with such attacks in future also. Regarding people being insensitive ..... it is your point of view .... people in India have shown far more resilience and sensitivity then most countries have shown in face of such terrorist activities.
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Originally posted by Fido
So what are you doing for it sir since you are so concerned ??? Have you ever considered donating towards welfare organizations or running elections ?
Its easy to be a deserter and come out rather than face the reality and confront it .
The least we can do is stop despising and cribbing . Because doing that does not help anyone .
I was actually waiting for this comment - 'whether have you ever considered running an election?'. Everytime someone starts criticising certain policies and the state of affairs in India, people who are out of argument raise this question out of nowhere. So, can you tell me if it's so easy to stand in an election? Do political parties really care about honest citizens, and allow them to contest election under their umbrella? On the other hand, try running independently. As far as I have seen most of the independent either lose or if they win, they are bought by a big politican party. So, answer is known to everyone around.
Even if, by any chance you get elected - you can't work independently or take the decision all by yourself. If you do, your political party would either oust you or stand against you up in arms. Ever heard about Mr. Manmohan Singh, T. N. Seshan, Jagmohan, A.B. Vajpayee, and a whole lot of alike politicians? Some of them surely came into power or still are, but despite of being on a higher post and honest, their stature is nothing. Any honest decision towards the welfare of the state often goes against the party they belong to.
Now, let's talk about donating towards welfare organisation. Millions of Rs. go towards the donation each year. Does that money go towards building a good hospitals for poor? Can that money be helpful in relocating the thousands of slum dwellers in each city, and if that money is really useful in providing the food or shelter to a homeless dude? The last I heard is the homeless people often die of an accident either with the 'Nanda's BMW', 'Salman's Land Rover' or alike.
Just like any other Indian, I too love my country and proud to be an Indian. But it doesn't mean we only and always see the positive side and don't comment on the overall state of affair in India - by and large.
So an honest man cannot run in elections and all you donate for charity goes down the drain ....... that leaves you feeling better as there is nothing one can do about the situation excepting crib about it .
Regarding what is happening to homeless in India .... if this is all you have heard , then you are not connected to what is happening in India ... try to hear more news about India.
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Originally posted by febpreet
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Originally posted by Fido
The last I heard is the homeless people often die of an accident either with the 'Nanda's BMW', 'Salman's Land Rover' or alike.
Just like any other Indian, I too love my country and proud to be an Indian. But it doesn't mean we only and always see the positive side and don't comment on the overall state of affair in India - by and large.
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Originally posted by puttoo
So an honest man cannot run in elections and all you donate for charity goes down the drain ....... that leaves you feeling better as there is nothing one can do about the situation excepting crib about it .
Regarding what is happening to homeless in India .... if this is all you have heard , then you are not connected to what is happening in India ... try to hear more news about India.
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Originally posted by febpreet
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Originally posted by Fido
The last I heard is the homeless people often die of an accident either with the 'Nanda's BMW', 'Salman's Land Rover' or alike.
Just like any other Indian, I too love my country and proud to be an Indian. But it doesn't mean we only and always see the positive side and don't comment on the overall state of affair in India - by and large.
So, you're saying, there's no place for any healthy arguments? Each comment has one positive side and a negative. What's wrong if I have opted to chose something which is negative in a country? Isn't it the whole purpose of 'Charcha' to discuss each side of the issue? If this is what you call 'cribbing' then I am sorry my dear friend - you're really out of the way, and I must tell you that criticising something doesn't amount to negativity. We certainly do talk about what is positive about India, but over here the talk is about what yields to India being the target of terrorists - time and again, next only to Iraq.
Sorry for wrongly entered my text in quote.
