Roadmap for new comers why and how to buy House in GTA


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Roadmap for new comers why and how to buy House in GTA
By: sarmaalo

I am an IT guy and was not knowing anything about mortgage/house buying. Recently I bought a house after one and half year of immigration to Canada, and it is better than what I thought. Hence, I would to share my thoughts which might help or at least get a different perspective.

There are lots of good articles in this site where you can get the details. I just thought to cover it very high level. Some of my ideas or perceptions might be diluted and need corrections. Feel free to give honest feedback and your experience on it.

I suggest all the immigrants to look for buying house to save what they earn and build equity. This will be your first vehicle to rebuild career, put your children in best school, earn more money, start investment so on and so forth. Here are some tips which might help. Handle the whole thing as a project and act professionally as much you can.

Why we need to buy it desperately -->

-Rent cost and mortgage payment cost varies somewhere between 25-30%. With a little bit of effort and very good planning you can buy house instead of wasting the money in rest. I was paying rent of $1100 x 12 = $13200 per year which was almost one fourth of my salary.
-Treat it as investment and think having a fixed shelter on your head as bonus. You should be willing to sell it after some years to go for a better house or move to a place near to your job location. But buy something now to start saving right away.

Who can get loans?

-You must have a stable income, working and earning record for last 1 year.
-Shop around. All Banks and lot of financial institution are ready to give you loans. Use Internet extensively for this.
-Spend some time to compare.

Various avenues to get money -->

-Plan to raise your income
-Get ready to put your spouse to earn something if needed and plan for it.
-Check whether you can do some part-time, weekend work etc if needed for the time being.
-Check how much Line of Credit you can have and apply for it
-Check who can give you minimum down payment. Some bank gives your down payments too. Only $5000 you require to have.
-Get some credit cards applied for emergency

House selection -->

-Sit with map and know your neighborhood.
-Make a statistical ranking of what is your long term and short term goal and give weight age to those.
-From TDSB find out which schools are best and where they are. Visit those places and check whether you can stay there.
-Find out which area you area you should buy based on five major factors :
Best Schools, Office Commuting time / Transport facility, Job availability,
Peaceful neighborhood, Affordability of house in that area based on your income,
Real Estate price appreciation in that area
-Give less weight age to stay near your community people, as you can always drive. Toronto is a small place to go in any direction.
-Find what are the pros and cons of buying Apartment/Condo, Condo Town House, Semi detached, fully Detached etc. Also, find which one will suit your need and affordability at least for five years.
-Find how much square fit you require, and which all appliances and furniture you get automatically.
-Make a sweet spot for all the above based on your need. Don’t get carried away with look and feel or what people say. Check whether your goals are satisfied and house you are buying is trouble free, peaceful where you can focus more on your work, career, education and quality of life.
-Get some feature checklist to judge the quality of house. Get to know from your friends, connections or websites.
-Give weight to availability of place, shopping/food complex near your house
-Evaluate security you want in your house or neighborhood. After all Safety first specially if you are near to downtown or city areas.
-Find family doctor, library, and community center availabilities

One time cost -->

- $5000 down payment
-Lawyer payment $1000-$1200
-Land Transfer fee to lawyer
-CMHC insurance and 8% PST on CMHC (if you have very less down payment)
-Phone, Cable, Internet, Gas, Electricity setup / transfer cost
-Title Insurance
-Mover cost
-Inspection Cost
-Closure Cost
-Painting cost
-Cleaning cost
-Overlapping rent cost (this can be avoided)
-Keep 30 to 0% of above calculated onetime cost extra in case you need as an emergency


Increase / Adjustment of family running cost -->

-Mortgage payment
-Property Tax (sometimes bank handles)
-Condo Management fee (if Condo is bought)
-House insurance
-Gas / Heating cost
-Electricity cost
-Life Insurance / Mortgage insurance
-Home Security
-Water Tax
-Commuting cost
-Furnace, Boiler, heater maintenance costs
-Keep provision of 10-25% extra to cover up hidden costs e.g. repairing, fees etc.

What all planning activities are required?

-Get some pre-approval from Bank/Financial done
-Get minimum down payment and maximum period to payback. If you have more money later, have the option to pay lump sum anytime and reduce the principal.
-Go for Bi-weekly mortgage payment. This will work as miracle and save you unthinkable amount of money and period of payback.
-Get your budget range fix
-Get all websites where you can see all house listed for sale
-Find Life Insurance/Mortgage insurance details. According to me Life Insurance is cheap and far better option than Mortgage insurance
-Find House inspector
-Find a very good lawyer who spends time to answer your queries
-Find House Insurance. Normally it comes bundled with your car insurance.
-Have a checklist what type of house you want and prefer
-From your lawyer, banker and real estate agent get a comprehensive chart of all payments required when when exactly you have to have the money ready
-Find exact Closure cost from lawyers and real estate agents
-Don’t forget to do Title insurance from your lawyer to protect yourself from ID theft
-Know details of closure activities
-Know about Gas, electricity, Furnace, boiler, Air conditioner, water payment and transfer logistics to your name
-Find maintenance contract details of your boiler, air conditioner, furnace etc.
-Get some handy man contacts ready
-Shop around Security system you need to install
-Shop House Inspector
-Find your parking requirement affect to your car insurance due to change of location
-Find Internet, cable and phone cost
-Make a solid checklist for all change of addresses. Some change of addresses you need to do before movement, and some after. Line those up properly. I had 35 change of addresses got carried out.
-Have some checklist or understanding ready how to judge the quality of your house
-In case of buying Condo/Condo Town House find details abut management fees etc.
-Find some reliable real estate agents in the area where you want to buy, and start looking for house. Go with your entire checklists to judge the quality of house, neighborhood, and objectives.
Select a very good mover and go for fixed price contract. It was a nightmare for me when I went for hourly contract.

Risk Assessment -->

-Anything of the above if you can’t satisfy is risk. Don’t ignore those e.g. if your income is not sufficient to run the family after taking house, then wait or find some avenues.
-You should spend time calculating exactly your onetime cost, hidden cost and family running cost.
-If you cannot stick to the above objective and subjective criteria, then those are risk and you will face those either losing money or comfort in future.
-Keep 10-20% percent buffer money for hidden cost after your take house. No one can tell you what are those and from which directions those can come. E.g. you might have emergency to travel to your homeland etc.


What long time benefit you will get ?

-Develop Equity / savings
-Good education for kids
-Less commuting time and hence better quality of life

Refinancing -->

-Think about refinancing after two three years. If you have already squared off 25% of principal, then you can refinance and save a lot.


Comparison with other country real estate investment -->

-In USA and India, you get tax benefit, but here you don’t.



I have some actual checklist used my me to select a house, mortgage calculator, onetime, regular family cost and address change worksheets. These are developed after talking to real estate agents, financial analysts and bank managers. Also, I have all websites URLs of real Estate agents, Banks, Insurance etc.
If you want to know more then contact alok.sarma@gmail.com


Bets of luck!


Regards

Alok Sarma



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web2000   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 02-07-09 10:31:11

Quote:
Originally posted by sarmaalo

-Rent cost and mortgage payment cost varies somewhere between 25-30%. With a little bit of effort and very good planning you can buy house instead of wasting the money in rest. I was paying rent of $1100 x 12 = $13200 per year which was almost one fourth of my salary.
-Treat it as investment and think having a fixed shelter on your head as bonus. You should be willing to sell it after some years to go for a better house or move to a place near to your job location. But buy something now to start saving right away.





If u calculate the cost properly, u will find that there is also a wastage of money in buying a house. Some types of expenses (house insurance, property tax etc.) u will face forever with no return. If there is no appreciation in the house prices (As the economy today clearly depicts), you will end up losing a lot and may end up selling your house due to increased interest rates in future.

If u own a house of $300,000 value, I believe that u will be paying approx $300-$400 as property tax per month which is almost 50% of the rent paid on an one bedroom apartment.

Try to calculate how much interest u will pay to the bank.

I think buying a house is just an investment. If u r lucky, u may get good appreciation in house value but that is a gambling.

So, saying that "Renting is a wastage of money" is totally wrong.



Fido   
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Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-07-09 20:46:21

I came across this interesting step by step information from website bytheowner dot com http://bytheowner.com/search.php?topic=offertopurchase which could be educative for a new buyer ........ Its your investment and you must have knowledge about how things proceed .... I am pasting the following from the website for common benefit of prospective readers ......

01
Call the owner and visit the property

A01.

Be sure to ask the owner lots of questions and do a through review of the property. If you are interested, discuss price, closing date, and conditions with the owner.
ByTheOwner.com recommends always having your real estate lawyer review anything before you sign, so the first step in making an offer is to consult your real estate lawyer. After deciding that you would like tomake an offer on the property, you will need to get the following information from the seller: Sellers Names, Property Address, closingdate, conditions, chattels included and excluded…

All questions regarding the offer to purchase should be forwarded to your lawyer.
02
When a seller is presented with an offer, 3 possibilities are available

A02.

1. Accept the offer.
2. Reject the offer.
3. Make a counter offer.
03
Offer to Purchase

A03.

* Will contain the legal names of the purchaser and seller.
* Will contain the legal address of the property.
* Will contain the amount of the deposit and the amount to be paid on closing – paid in trust to the seller’s lawyer.
* Will contain what is included (chattels) – i.e. fridge, stove, washer and dryer, fixtures.
* Will contain what is excluded – i.e. satelite dish, wood stove, ...
* Will include any rental items – i.e. hot water heater.
* Will include an irrevocability date – this is the date and exact time that the offer will expire if not accepted.
* Will include a completion date – this is the date that the contract will be filled.
* Will include conditions.

04
Some popular conditions are

A04.

Conditional on financing – This allows the buyer time to arrange a mortgage or collect the money to be paid. One week is usually ideal for a buyer to find a mortgage. If they have not received approval for the money within the stated time period, then the contract is void and your home is back on the market. If the buyer receives financing before the week ends, then the buyer waives this clause and the contract is still valid. The buyer gives a written waiver to their lawyer and the buyer’s lawyer sends it to the seller’s lawyer.

Conditional on home inspection – This allows the buyer time to have a home inspector come and evaluate the home. One week is usually ideal for a buyer to find an inspector and to have a home inspected. It is really important to note that a home never “fails” a home inspection. A home inspection is simply a home expert coming in to give the buyer their opinion of the home. The home inspector will tell the buyer what they think of the home and all the problems or potential problems they see about the home. The buyer can then decide if they wish to waive the home inspection clause and buy the home or they can decide that they did not like what the home inspector said and then they can back out of the contract. It is all up to the buyer as to whether they waive the clause.

For example – the home may have serious damage and the home inspector points out many problems with the home, it is still the buyers’ choice whether they want to continue with the purchase or not. Essentially, clauses like financing and home inspection are ways for buyers to cancel the offer to purchase if they want to. It is for this reason that sellers only allow the buyers about 1-2 weeks to fulfill these conditions. If you allow a buyer 2 months to arrange financing, then they can come back to you in two months and say “we didn’t get approved” and the contract is not valid and your home is back on the market. Again, it is important to educate yourself and read our guide.


05
Offer accepted - Conditions waived - It's Sold!!!

A05.

After the seller accepts the offer, it is then up to the buyer to waive all the conditions but the appropriate date. At which time, the contractis a valid document and the rest is up to the lawyers.

Congratulations!


This website has much more information which one can easily access plus do private transactions (w/o real estate agents ) thus saving thousands of dollars in commission .


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Fido   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-07-09 07:27:12

I was not aware of this information till I visited this link ... Pasting below for convenience .

http://www.thebramptonnews.com/articles/4244/1/Government-Assistance-for-Home-Buyers/Page1.html

Were you aware of these incentives?

1. The HBP program is a program for first time buyers AND those with a disability. The program allows them to withdraw RRSP money tax free up to $25,000 to buy or build a home. They are required to repay the amount withdrawn over 15 years making 1/15th payments each year. If they are unable to make a payment any given year, they are taxed on that portion only.

2. Land Transfer Tax Refund for First-Time Home Buyers

First-time homebuyers may be eligible for a refund of all or part of the tax.

For agreements of purchase and sale entered into after December 13, 2007, the refund applies to all homes, whether newly constructed or resale.

How much is the Refund?

The maximum amount of the refund is $2,000. If the refund is claimed at time of registration, it may offset the land transfer tax ordinarily payable. If not claimed at registration, the refund may be claimed directly from the Ministry of Revenue. No interest is paid on this refund.

Who Qualifies?

To claim a refund, you:

must be at least 18 years of age;
· must occupy the home as your principal residence within 9 months of after the date of transfer; and
· cannot have owned a home, or an interest in a home, anywhere in the world.

3. Toronto Municipal Tax rebate as follows:

First-Time Purchaser
If you are a first-time purchaser of a newly constructed or re-sale residential property. The rebate for first-time home purchasers is up to a maximum of $3,725.00. If you are eligible for a rebate it can be claimed by your lawyer.

4. Home Buyer Tax credit. HBTC will assist with closing cost for first-time home buyers. This provides up to $750 in tax relief on the purchase of a first home. The HBTC is calculated by multiplying the lowest personal income tax rate for the year (15% in 2009) by $5,000. For 2009 the credit will be $750.

5. Eco-Friendly Upgrades. The ecoENERGY Retrofit program provides home and property owners with grants of up to $5,000 to offset the cost of making energy efficient improvements. Anything from increasing insulation to upgrading a furnace.

6. Home Renovation Tax Credit. HRTC will provide a temporary 15% income tax credit on eligible home renovation for work performed, or good acquired after January 27, 2009 and before February 1, 2010.

For more information on home ownership and housing related stimulus go to:
http://www.budget.gc.ca/2009/plan/bpa5a-eng.asp#Personal


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Fido   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-07-09 22:03:37

CD s ,

I was doing some basic calculation wrt costs in buying and maintaining a house ..... and the comparing it to renting ...... If this calculation is incorrect or I have missed something , please advise .... Considering this is a sticky thread , this might help future readers as well ... All calculations are approximations ....


Price of House 300K

Land Transfer and closing costs 1.5% 4.5K ( including lawyer and inspection )
Less 1st time Home Buyer Credit 2K
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Net 2.5K

Selling and closing costs 5%+ Lawyer 15K ( while selling say after 5 yrs )

Total Fixed Expenses 17.5 ~ 18K

Monthly costs

Mortgage Interest on 240K @ 4.15% 1000 (assuming 20% down payment )
Utilities 250
Property Tax 250
Insurance 50
Lost interest on 60K(2%) 120 (opportunity cost )
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1670

(assuming a sale after 5 yrs apportioning 18K over (5*12) months or 300 pm

Total Monthly costs 1970 ....

Less Basement rent 770...

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Cost to live $ 1200/-

Cost to rent a 2 BR Apt 1000/- - 1100/-

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I know that I haven't considered appreciation , but I haven't considered repairs / maintenance expenses either ... or loss of tenant occupancy .

There s no question of equity as we are assuming selling in 5 years ...

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From the above : does it mean that buying makes more sense if either your family is big and you would need a minimum 3 BR Apartment to rent ?

Or if you don't think of swapping / selling your house for a decade ....


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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-07-09 07:42:39

Cost to rent a 2 BR Apt 900/- ??

I am not sure one can find decent 2 BDR rent for 900$ , i hv done some research since i m moving there...i find 1 BDR cost 900$ ...

therefore, to me buying is the best options then renting if u can hold that property for couple of years


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Fido   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-07-09 07:49:52

Yes you are right ..... it might be a $1000/- ... I shall update the post ....... Holding on for a couple of years --- Yes .. but how many on an average to break even ?

I haven't taken the insurance costs also for the house ... How much would they be for a 300K house annually ?


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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-07-09 08:09:06

Quote:
Originally posted by Fido

I haven't taken the insurance costs also for the house ... How much would they be for a 300K house annually ?



Depends on a lot of factors, typically between 500-600 CAD.


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