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USA v/s Canada - An Immigrant's Experience
By: seenappa

Dear CD’s,

I have been a lurker from quite some time and had the opportunity to read the views of CD’s from both sides of the border. There seem to be no dearth of CD’s who are hoping to “fly the coop” once they get their passport. Perhaps, they believe that much better life awaits them south of Canada.
As an ex-U.S.vasi and current Canadavasi, I hope to contribute my 1.17Cdn cents worth to the board. I lived in US for about 6 years before I moved to Canada 2 years ago.


Most of the discussions seem to center on why Canada sucks and US is much better in terms of Jobs, quality of life and opportunities.


This is true to a large extent mainly owing to the comparatively huge size of the USA population (roughly 300 million v/s 30 million in Canada). The cell-phone deals are much better (the concept of unlimited calling plans is totally alien in Canada), US auto insurance costs are chicken feed when compared to Canadian auto insurance, most of your US friends are in white collared jobs and the usual party topics revolve around stocks and company benefits and not resume sending tips. I could simply go on and on.



Now why Canada is much better than USA.:



1) Visa issues:
Most of the Desi's in US live under the long shadow of H1 visa. Every aspect of your life is controlled by this one factor. Whether you get a job, where you get a job, where you live, whether to stay in USA or not, whether you can find a good wife etc. If you are unfortunate enough you’re H1 will be sponsored by a Desi firm, where you will have a chance to find out what “emotional blackmail” really means. Suppose, you are with a Non-Desi company and at some point you will HAVE to apply for green card (which by the way, is easier winning a “Super 7” than getting your Green card within 10 years). The company will hold you and yours dreams ransom for another good 8 years by which time your entrepreneurial ideals and dreams will dead and buried.



2) Huge culture bridge:
Make no mistake when I say that in US, there are times you will feel like a “black Fly in a bowl of white milk”. In US, you will be hard pressed to find even a single Desi/Asian in the above groups. Not ONE Indian police officer. Not ONE TV anchor and especially not a Desi politician. Mostly computer guys, doctors, taxi drivers and convenience store owners who create no cultural impact on an average American citizen. In Canada you have the best of the both worlds, the feel of a first world country like US and the feel of “old country” in terms of variety of food, social gatherings, temples, and a sense of strong attachment. In Canada Immigrants are integrated into all walks of life. You see immigrants, especially Desi as anchors on TV shows, police force, Politicians, immigration officers, politics, arts and culture etc etc.



3) For our children:
Many of us have left our motherlands looking for better future for our children. We all know at some point our children will assimilate fully into ways of the new culture. In US, your kids will have no idea growing up about your culture, your roots or any role models to look up to. I have come across some Desi kids in US who come across another Desi and are simply at loss on how to react. Not that it does not happen in Canada but at least here they attend multiracial schools and get to hear viewpoints of all ethnic groups and know that they can be a part of the political mainstream thanks to the 2 dozen Desi MP’s and ministers in corridors of power. Try looking at some of the class pictures of the Desi kids in US and you will spot that kid in a fraction of a second. This alone will be your number one reason to opt for Canada.



4) America is a bad word in global politics:
During my travels to India, I have spent most of time in parties and gatherings having to explain the “yearly invasions” of G.W.B’s itchy fingers and have been sick of defending US and its policies. I can’t remember, how many times arguments have broken over these issues. I have lost count of how many of my US friends have fallen into depression for having the visas of their parents refused especially when they are expecting a baby and in need of great moral and physical support. US refuses visas to these deserving visiting parents for no rhyme or reason. You will sense an atmosphere of arrogance and superior attitude. This attitude is widely seen especially when you travel, board flights, visit public monuments or buildings. You will realize in couple of seconds that you are the one all the officers are really looking at.


Yes, On the whole US offers better materialistic possessions, well paying jobs, much higher quality of life but if you are somebody who wants to marry, start a family and settle down for good then Canada will be the place where your wandering mind comes back to every now and then.

Love to hear from other expats from USA.



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mail_rashed   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-02-07 16:09:59

Article is located here: http://www.canadiandesi.ca/article.php?SID=1&AID=219" rel="nofollow">LINK

Please post some article regarding Canada Vs Australia



sarmaalo   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-02-07 00:16:40

Quote:
Originally posted by mail_rashed

Article is located here: http://www.canadiandesi.ca/article.php?SID=1&AID=219" rel="nofollow">LINK

Please post some article regarding Canada Vs Australia



The Canada v/s US comparison is fabulous.
I was about write similar thing, but you took the words from my mouth, and no need for me to reinvent the wheel.

Great job !

Regards

Alok



dimple2001   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-02-07 09:36:06

Good article.

Just a FYI on the "Cultural Bridge" paragraph. It states a lack of cops, TV anchors and such who are Indians or of Indian descent.

Windsor/Detroit tunnel on the US side has a Customs and Border officer who is a Keralite. He was able to "decipher" the samosas we were carrying and allowed us through without throwing them away as food products.

Detroit local news channels have couple of news reporters, one of them is Anu Prakash.

Bobby Jindal is a well known politician who ran for the Senate (?) from Louisiana.

It's changing in the US as well. Slowly, however, mostly probably due to a lower percentage of people of Indian descent.


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Fido   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-02-07 09:37:30

We do have a few links on Canada vs Australia also . Please use the 'search in charcha ' feature on the very center .


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ganu   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-03-07 17:11:08

I pretty much agree with all the points. I was in the US for 5 yrs before immigrating to canada.

There is another problem which I faced in the US.

The H4 visa -

My wife quit her job in Mumbai and travelled with me to the US a few days after our wedding.
I resumed my job as a contract developer.
The marriage was still in "honeymoon" mode, so everything appeared rosy.
After a few months, my wife was extremely frustrated with her inability to find a job. ( non-IT field) ... for the simple reason that no employer was willing to sponser an h1 visa. Staying at home ... cooking and cleaning is enough to destroy anybody's spirit.

Three depressing years later ... we decided to move to canada and make a fresh start.
She got back into the job market within a matter of months. I did not have a lot of trouble finding a new job as there was a pretty good demand for IT in canada.
We have finally put down our roots and have achieved a certain level of stability in canada.

If I had opted to wait for my GC... chances are that my wife would still be without a job.... we would still be shelling out insane amounts for our rental place

And rest assured, we were not the only couple to have suffered from the "H4" phenomenon. I know quite a few couples who went back to India or immigrated to canada to get away from the H4 visa stress

any thoughts?




dhshpatel   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-03-07 14:28:03

1) Visa issues:

good job but not legal status or GC in usa OR legal status in canada but no good job

what is good from above both???

most of friend come from US are on H1 and in field of IT they can easily findjob in canada and get legal status BUT what about other profession like Doctor, Pharmacist, Veternity, Nures, PE they all have to get lic and that lic only work in one state or province. they can't move eaily........and lic is also not easy process.

what about stay in canada for three year with any job and then move to USA for good Job on TN.....is this not smar idea.??? ( bcos many doctor, Nurse, pharmacist , engg are doing this......not too much by IT bcos their H1 pay is far less then this profession)

Nurse are getting Direct GreenCrad in USA from any coutry . even from india.
and they are well paid with the good legal status.

so every person to person the situation is different .

and visitor visa is denying for parent in canada also ....
There is no way in canada to bring your brother and sister.........even you are citizen in canada.



ganu   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-03-07 17:15:52

yes, i agree, it varies from situation to situation.

however, it is advised to research job prospects before immigrating to another country.
It is common knowledge that getting into profesisons like medicine / nursing etc in canada is challenging.

However, it is the immigrant who makes the choice.

It is very rare for people on h4 visa in the US to get a job in the US in the finance/banking/insurance sector. (I have never come across anyone, unless you decide to do an MBA and go for campus recruitment)

My parents had their visa denied twice when i was in the US. And mine was not an isolated case.

Last month, I applied for Canadian tourist visa for my parents... they got their passports stamped in 4 days. Again not an isolated case. Everyone in my acquaintance has been successful in getting a visa for their parents. It all boils down to getting the documentation right. Unlike whimsical US visa officers where visa documentation is probably used as a fan during hot summer days in mumbai

That being said, if you find a satifying job in the US as compared to canada, then it would be wise to move. By all means ... you should go...

The question again is, why come to canada in the first place?







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