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Christianity in India (Syrian_Malabar_Nasrani)




I have always been amazed by the fact that Christianity arrived in India before Europeans(including Italians/Romans) had converted. Infact, they were burning Christians ton the cross in Rome around the same time.

I recently found some more info on my own heritage. Thought some others may be interested

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Malabar_Nasrani

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Thanks Jake
Jake3D,
Thanks for the link. i went through it and found the rich legacy that you people have. FYI this was the first time that i have read some of the information presented which have reinforced my beleif of the glorious religious history that your state has.
I have always had a great love and respect for your state (though in my experiences with the common Tamil man, they always stated otherwise).
All over India, I have found that people from your state have contributed to the betterment of the indian economy.
I have also visted your famous towns and have been impressed with your love for nature, good and simple architecture (Padmanabhapuram Palace) etc... I had also been to the old jewish town and had gone to the synagoge there.
At a time when Mutton was of a prohibitive cost in TN, I have always enjoyed your states cheap beef and fish stew. So many keralites taught me the basics of architecture in my career and i am higly indebted to them.
TK A
Sidenote : In 1992 i made a statement to my classmates at a famous engineering college that when i came of age to marry, i will marry either a lady from your state or a Tamil Bhramin. The last statement is just to prove the great respect that i have for people of your state.
2. I come from the other famous place in India for christianity, Trinelveli Town. This place also has a very ancient religious history and a majority of Nadars converted into christianity. However, this is just after the british arrived in India and the conversion was done due to the scripture teaching by the british. This place also was a treasure trove of learning and has been dubbed as "The Oxford of the South" by the famous colleges in this area namely : Sarah Tucker college and so many others.

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Tk, You amaze me with your posts. They are so 'you' :p . I have questions about some of the comments(which may sound inconspicuous to you) but will hold my tongue lest we drift back to TN :)

Thanking you for your love and respect.

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Sidenote : In 1992 i made a statement to my classmates at a famous engineering college that when i came of age to marry, i will marry either a lady from your state or a Tamil Bhramin. The last statement is just to prove the great respect that i have for people of your state.



[Start : Digression to Digression (Sorry Jake, couldn't resist :) )]

Tell me the earth shook and there was lightning when you said this!

[End : Digression to Digression]


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[Start : Digression to Digression (Sorry Jake, couldn't resist :) )]





Well, ladies of my state can consider themselves lucky.

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Originally posted by jake3d

I have always been amazed by the fact that Christianity arrived in India before Europeans(including Italians/Romans) had converted. Infact, they were burning Christians ton the cross in Rome around the same time.

I recently found some more info on my own heritage. Thought some others may be interested

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Malabar_Nasrani




Hey I've just used that website to research my what I thought was a little story my Dad would tell me when I was growing up...that according to our last name, we descended from a King in Gujarat...and I just saw that it's true...

...OMG, I might be a Princess!!! (OK, highly unlikely, but wishful thinking :p )


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(OK, highly unlikely, but wishful thinking :p )




If you have married a commoner then you probably have lost your title anyway

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Quote:
Originally posted by jake3d

I have always been amazed by the fact that Christianity arrived in India before Europeans(including Italians/Romans) had converted. Infact, they were burning Christians ton the cross in Rome around the same time.

I recently found some more info on my own heritage. Thought some others may be interested

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Malabar_Nasrani</font>




Yes. St. Thomas was the first one to arrive here and started conversions. Then Knai Thomman.


 
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Sorry for the Digression !.

Thousand Apologies for the same !.

Some interesting information, which came across first hand during my recent trip to NYC. I had the opportunity of meeting some of my old friends who incidently are also from Kerala and who happen to be Christians.

I was asked to accompany them to a rally organized for the support of the mayorial candidate. This mayor candidate is also being supported by Ralph Guilani who might be a Republican candidate for the US President next time.

The interesting thing which I observed was the group of this \"Right Wing\" Chrisitians of US of A who are pro republicans, who are against abortion, anti gay marriages have been heavily infiltrated by the christian groups from Kerala. They are into funding, organizing and being a leading vocal voice for the mayoral election race.As the caucasian race is no longer taking up for the priesthood, the maximum numbers are turning up from India in particular from Kerala and Tamil Nadu. It is interesting to note that in many parishes in US of A you'll find priests from these states organizing and maintaining the flock.

My friend who himself is of the same background, mentioned in the near future this group will be able to shape the US politics, and indirectly influence the relationship between India and US of A. It leads to the point that it is no longer IT which is road between USof A and India, it is going to be Christianity/priests who are going to be the link between India and US of A!.

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"When we were young kids growing up in America, we were told to eat our
vegetables at dinner and not leave them. Mothers said, 'think of the
starving children in India and finish the dinner.' And now I tell my
children: 'Finish your maths homework. Think of the children in India
who would make you starve, if you don't.'"

 
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TK A
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Originally posted by shankaracharya

Sorry for the Digression !.
Thousand Apologies for the same !.


Sankaracharya!
I donot think that you have degressed from the topic. OTOH, It is a very useful piece of information that you are sharing with Christians like us.
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It is interesting to note that in many parishes in US of A you'll find priests from these states organizing and maintaining the flock.


When i was in Raleigh, USA a few years back, i found that there was a Tamil chirstian priest for all the Indian christian IT people of Raleigh. They met at a white church after the church service and conducted their own service. I think it is a form of networking
Even in Canada, i find that various sects of people have their own sect people. For eg. the sri lankans have their own Tamil priest from SL, The Keralites have their own priest from Kerala....
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It leads to the point that it is no longer IT which is road between USof A and India, it is going to be Christianity/priests who are going to be the link between India and US of A!.

This is a far fetched statement to me. Based on my expeience ( and my only experience and exposure), i canot agree to this but i wish this happens in the near future.
TK A

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