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meghal
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Simpsons in India???
Just watched a synopsis of next Simpsosn episode on Fox. It seems they are heading to India.
I am not very happy with representation of Hinduism or India or Indians on Simpsons. Let us see what they have to say this time
Keeping my fingers crossed
Meghal
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BlueLobster
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Quote:
Originally posted by meghal
I am not very happy with representation of Hinduism or India or Indians on Simpsons. Let us see what they have to say this time
Keeping my fingers crossed
Meghal
Which country/community's representation on the Simpsons are you happy about? They make fun of everyone!! That's why its such a great show!! 
C'mon, you can't be so sensitive....
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morning_rain
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Hey
Meghal: I thought your a big simpsons fan?
I love their representation of Indians/Hinduism
Apu Nahasapimapetalan (I think thats how you spellit) has a PhD in Computer Science and runs the Kwik -i - Mart.
Did you see the episode of his marriage?
I think Simpsons is one of the best shows on tv because of its 'in your face' attitude towards religion AND politics.
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07-04-06 11:27:37 |
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Loser
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Apu Quotes
"Thank you, come again!"
Reporter: "Apu, is it true that you're an Indian?"
Apu: "By the many arms of Vishnu, I swear it is a lie!"
[To Krusty] "Sir, your appetite for pornographic magazines kept me in business. Please enjoy five percent off every purchase."
[To Immigration Clerk] "Now which way to the welfare office? I'm kidding! I'm kidding! I work! I work!"
[After yet another shooting] "Oh, the searing kiss of hot lead. How I've missed you! I mean – I think I'm dying."
[To Homer] "Please do not offer my god a peanut!"
[After being shot by Burns]: "Ugh, you got me, but I shall be reincarnated". [He turns into a rabbit] "HAHA! You can't kill a Hindu!" [steps on a beartrap] "Ahh! Help me Jesus!"
[To Marge] "You must always follow your dreams. Like my old dream of coming to America and starting a family... or my new dream, of ditching my family, and sneaking back to India in disguise!"
[To Homer, who has placed various candies on a doughnut, hoping to pass them off as "sprinkles"] "A Mounds bar is not a sprinkle. A Twizzler is not a sprinkle. A Jolly Rancher is not a sprinkle, sir. Perhaps in Shangri-la they are, but not here."
"Oh look. It's Mr. Homer, my favorite customer. Please feel free to flip through my Playdudes and eat my raw bacon and tell me to go back to some country I'm not actually from."
"I did not come to this country illegally to see it mocked."
[Marge places a bottle of aspirin over the counter] Apu: $24.95
Marge: $24.95???
Apu: I lowered the price because an escaped mental patient tampered with the bottle
Mel: You only live once!
Apu: Speak for yourself!
[To Patty and Selma, after they each purchased a pack of cigarettes] "Smoke them in good health!"
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You know you are a desi when ........ You spew forth the virtues of India, but don't want to live there...............You've never had a tanning salon membership
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07-04-06 11:54:08 |
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shankaracharya
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Simpsons are already in Arabic. It is nice that they are heading to India. It is nice to laugh at ourselves/Hinduism and that is the way we will grow as a human being.
It is a show with an adult content, and I do not know how they are going to manage it in India.
But our family loves \"The Simpsons\".
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Speech by Thomas Friedman of The New York Times....
"When we were young kids growing up in America, we were told to eat our
vegetables at dinner and not leave them. Mothers said, 'think of the
starving children in India and finish the dinner.' And now I tell my
children: 'Finish your maths homework. Think of the children in India
who would make you starve, if you don't.'"
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07-04-06 15:52:26 |
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meghal
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Quote:
Originally posted by morning_rain
Hey
Meghal: I thought your a big simpsons fan?
I love their representation of Indians/Hinduism
Apu Nahasapimapetalan (I think thats how you spellit) has a PhD in Computer Science and runs the Kwik -i - Mart.
Did you see the episode of his marriage?
I think Simpsons is one of the best shows on tv because of its 'in your face' attitude towards religion AND politics.
Yes. I am a HUGE Simpsons fan.
Just that I believe that the creators (including Matt Groening) are not fully aware of Hinduism. IMHO it is not good to poke fun at any philosophy, until you are fully knowledgeable about it.
For example, in the episode, where Homer takes on the task of protecting Springfields children, he puts a baseball glove on on each of Natraj's hands. To which Apu exclaims - "No more Shiva related pokings".
And in the marriage episode, Homer dons a elephant mask and exclaims "I am Ganesha". In the episode where Apu has an affair, all the three children sit on a cart wearing elephant mask. I do not see any humour in those situations.
Just take a look as to how they poke fun at Christianity and all its shortcomings. Yet, the Simpsons are accused of having a conservative or right wing agenda. In one of their recent episodes, they have excellently portrayed the struggle between Catholic and Protestants. It is a very touching episode.
Apu has graduated from Caltech - calcutta technical institute.
Meghal
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07-04-06 19:39:17 |
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meghal
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Homer finally lands in India
Mr. Burns outsources his nuclear plant to Banglore, and Homer is put in charge
Not a bad episode. Though not an exact representation of India, atleast the Indians were shown very inteligent and dignified.
The icing on the cake - the show ended with a Kishore Kumar song from "Johny Mera Naam" - Palbhar Ke Liye Koi Humein Pyaar kar Le
Meghal
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09-04-06 23:16:02 |
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shankaracharya
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Hinduism is a way of life and it is beyond Siva, Vishnu and Ganesh!.
The real relationship in Hinduism is between the Jeevatma - ourselves and the Paramatma- The Universe, a.k.a God, a.k.a Jesus, a.k.a Allah, a.k.a Siva, Vishnu, Brahma or Ganesha.
The real dialogue is between us and our God. The true Hindu is an atheist, who is always thinking about him so that he can disprove his/her existence.
We could highlight how unique the Hindus are from two recent events which happened in India recently:
1. Varanasi Bombings- The culprits were caught and they had planned to bomb both the Hanuman temples. They failed in their efforts. Their plans were to get a retaliatory action from the hindus in India and so that they can build on further blood shed. What happened ?, nothing happened and the terrorist have no place to put their face ?. The reason is evil builds on evil. If we do not respond evil with evil, their efforts fall flat at their face.
2.M.F.Hussains Nude Depiction of Indian Hindu Goddess: He has been painting the Indian Hindu Goddess in nude and different forms for decades, sold them for Crores of Rupees, and many of us visited the show and said Wah!, Wah !, what a painting. Did India do another Denmark?. No.
Hinduism is beyond this. We should not get stuck up with aartis and poojas, which are good but not the ultimate. Hinduism and its philosophies are beyond this. The success and acceptance of the Cartoons will depend on the audience reaction. If the Indian audience do not accept, The Simpsons will change the format like what the McDonalds or Burger King did by bringing Vegetarian Tikka Burgers or similar products. The market forces will decide. Once again we Indians are one of most open minded people in accepting foreign concepts, products and ideas with open arms.
For me the best response for India came from Jake 3D who has admitted about his thought process or JRF who has written about the temple architecture in India. It is for them to highlight our cultural heritage and not for me talk about it. Ultimately we are all Indians.
I can assure you, once they subtitle \"The Simpsons\" in Hindi, Telugu, Tamil and other regional languages it will be a RAGE!.
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Speech by Thomas Friedman of The New York Times....
"When we were young kids growing up in America, we were told to eat our
vegetables at dinner and not leave them. Mothers said, 'think of the
starving children in India and finish the dinner.' And now I tell my
children: 'Finish your maths homework. Think of the children in India
who would make you starve, if you don't.'"
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11-04-06 11:11:57 |
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DesiTiger
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Quote:
Originally posted by shankaracharya
Hinduism is a way of life and it is beyond Siva, Vishnu and Ganesh!.
The real relationship in Hinduism is between the Jeevatma - ourselves and the Paramatma- The Universe, a.k.a God, a.k.a Jesus, a.k.a Allah, a.k.a Siva, Vishnu, Brahma or Ganesha.
The real dialogue is between us and our God. The true Hindu is an atheist, who is always thinking about him so that he can disprove his/her existence.
We could highlight how unique the Hindus are from two recent events which happened in India recently:
1. Varanasi Bombings- The culprits were caught and they had planned to bomb both the Hanuman temples. They failed in their efforts. Their plans were to get a retaliatory action from the hindus in India and so that they can build on further blood shed. What happened ?, nothing happened and the terrorist have no place to put their face ?. The reason is evil builds on evil. If we do not respond evil with evil, their efforts fall flat at their face.
2.M.F.Hussains Nude Depiction of Indian Hindu Goddess: He has been painting the Indian Hindu Goddess in nude and different forms for decades, sold them for Crores of Rupees, and many of us visited the show and said Wah!, Wah !, what a painting. Did India do another Denmark?. No.
Hinduism is beyond this. We should not get stuck up with aartis and poojas, which are good but not the ultimate. Hinduism and its philosophies are beyond this. The success and acceptance of the Cartoons will depend on the audience reaction. If the Indian audience do not accept, The Simpsons will change the format like what the McDonalds or Burger King did by bringing Vegetarian Tikka Burgers or similar products. The market forces will decide. Once again we Indians are one of most open minded people in accepting foreign concepts, products and ideas with open arms.
For me the best response for India came from Jake 3D who has admitted about his thought process or JRF who has written about the temple architecture in India. It is for them to highlight our cultural heritage and not for me talk about it. Ultimately we are all Indians.
I can assure you, once they subtitle \"The Simpsons\" in Hindi, Telugu, Tamil and other regional languages it will be a RAGE!.
shankaracharya, even though we may not agree on a few things (related to Canada), I couldn't agree with you more on this one. Very well written 
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meghal
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Quote:
Originally posted by shankaracharya
The success and acceptance of the Cartoons will depend on the audience reaction. If the Indian audience do not accept, The Simpsons will change the format like what the McDonalds or Burger King did by bringing Vegetarian Tikka Burgers or similar products. The market forces will decide. Once again we Indians are one of most open minded people in accepting foreign concepts, products and ideas with open arms.
I can assure you, once they subtitle \"The Simpsons\" in Hindi, Telugu, Tamil and other regional languages it will be a RAGE!.
Dude. Atleast read the mail or try to know what Simpsons is, before posting the reply. I am discussing about Simpsons, not Hinduism. If i wanted to discuss about Hinduism, I would post message under different category
When I say Simpsons go to India, that means the character goes to India. The show is already shown on Star World since a long time.
Second, to enjoy Simpsons, you need to be live in North America. That is why, it might not be that popular in India. It is difficult to understand the humour until you completely know the background of it. It would be one in a zillion chance before Matt Groening will try to adapt Simpsons to Indian taste.
When you translate any piece of literature, you kill the soul. It happened with all the Hollywood movies translated to Hindi. Trying to translate Simpsons into Hindi would kill its soul. It is like eating a cookie dipped in sambhar or an idli dipped in tomato soup
Meghal
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